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    Small timer looking for reliable, depedable book

    [I'm a small time player ($50-100) looking for a reliable, dependable quick payout book (oxymoron?). I have researched a few ( greek, legendz, dsi, 5 dimes, and a few others. I seem to get conflicting reviews from SBR and player's. Any comments a/o info greatly appreciated. Thanx, btd

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    If you want a lot of betting options and somewhat lower juice, go with 5Dimes. If you want a more hassle-free, yet vanilla book that still charges somewhat high juice go with Legendz.

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    i'd go with betjm

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    I'd go with 5D also. Low vig (-105) & Quick payouts (last check received in 2 days). Also one free payout per month (max 3k).

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    Without a doubt 5 Dimes.

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    I'd have to say if you don't care about a great bonus structure, and just want a place to bet reduced juice, tons of wagering options and fast payouts go with 5Dimes per your needs. Bet Jamaica is a fine choice as well for an additional out.

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    You can't go wrong with either 5Dimes or BetJamaica sir. Below is a detailed breakdown on what both these fine establishments have to offer you. Which ever book you choose, it's a fine selection.

    5Dimes (SBR Rated A) is the way to go for baseball if your a recreational player that bets nickels, and haven't had your limits cut. But just watch out for those delays.

    They have no outstanding complaints or processing issues levied against them at this time. Not to mention they offer some pretty good payment solutions for U.S. players (Echecks most notably 300 max./14 day hold). Plus they offer one free fedex payout per month that you will usually get within about 3-5 business days.

    The bonus they offer for new customers is a 50% free play with a 5x rollover, and 20% reload bonuses.

    They use the ASI software (Which is nice IMO), not to mention the fact that [iSBRFORUM]5Dimes[/iSBRFORUM] has a couple of mirror sites, which helps during the down times:


    Did I mention nickel overnight lines (till 8am est), and offers a lot of prop wagering options.

    Here is the vig breakdowns 5Dimes, and a few of the other wagering options they have to offer:

    .10 up to -176
    .15 up to -201
    .20 up to -266
    .25 up to -280
    .30 up to -346
    .35 up to -361
    .40 up to -386
    .45 up to -421
    .50 up to -461

    Overnight Lines: Yes *See Nickel Lines Chart Below
    Reverse Run Lines: Yes
    5-inning lines: Yes: RLs, MLs & Totals
    Reduced Juice Totals: Yes**
    Reduced Juice RLs: Yes**
    Grand Salami Totals: Yes
    Team Totals: Yes

    Overnight Nickel Lines Chart

    .05 up to -162
    .06 up to -165
    .07 up to -193
    .08 up to -196
    .09 up to -198
    .10 up to -251
    .11 up to -253
    .12 up to -255
    .13 up to -257
    .14 up to -258
    .15 up to -266
    .16 up to -270
    .17 up to -273
    .18 up to -276
    .19 up to -278
    .20 up to -310

    The one complaint I do have against them though. I don't like the fact that they always have problems grading their prop bets. They are notorious for mis-grading those thing and their rules for those seem to have a very gray area IMHOO.

    BetJamaica, part of the TheGreek family of books and use the ASI software, which I feel is pretty nice overall.

    BetJamaica (SBR Rated A+) is more of a recreation book and does offer nice reload bonuses (10 or 20% reup bonuses/$500 max, with a 4x's rollover), however since they are a recreational book they could cut your limits if your chasing steam and or other things of that nature.

    Their banking options for U.S. players have actually improved some over the last few months, because they are now offering Echecks (which is very nice feature these days, but info required to be faxed). Not to mention they do free book-to-book transfers ($500 min) with: TheGreek, Legendz, Pinnacle, 5Dimes and BookMaker and soon Wsex (note: Bookmaker will charge you incoming fees).

    The payouts are very prompt really for overnight checks (3-5 business days), and the withdraw fees are actually quite reasonable if you exceed the 1 free payout via fedex per calender month (min. $200/$35 flat fee if you exceed the freebie).

    Another thing I should make mention of since we have seen some DDos attacks this weekend is that they have a couple of mirror sites for emergency purposes.



    They also are now offering an online chat service which is always a nice feature

    The lines they offer are very competitive with most other books IMO, and the use a dimeline up to -190 in baseball. Which I feel is great!

    Here is the baseball vig breakdown and betting options they will be offering this 2008 baseball season.

    .10 up to -190
    .13 up to -195
    .15 up to -200
    .18 up to -205
    .20 up to -240
    .25 up to -250
    .30 up to -280
    .35 up to -290
    .40 up to -300
    .45 up to -310
    .50 up to -320

    Overnight Lines: Yes
    Reverse Run Lines: Yes
    5-inning lines: Yes
    Reduced Juice Totals: No
    Grand Salami Totals: Yes
    Team Totals: No

    The drawbacks I do have about [iSBRFORUM]BetJamaica[/iSBRFORUM] is they only accept U.S. currencies

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    Pinnacle (outside USA)

    take your pick

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    I would try creditwagering.com.

    You don't have to put up any money up front, and their limits are fine for $50/$100 bets.

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    CW.... tell them paid SBR shills sent ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daggerkobe View Post
    CW.... tell them paid SBR shills sent ya.

    I like the creditwager booking concept, I think it is a far better system for the average player to have HIS MONEY in HIS pocket until he loses it.

    They must have a very low cost for player aquistion too, low overhead, good for everyone, except of course the watchpuppy portals, but that is another story entirely.

    Why should we have to trust the sportsbooks with OUR money? I have visited CR and Curacao, met some of these "gentlemen", and got to personally watch the posts ups being spent on coke and whores.

    Have you?

    I sincerely doubt if they are going to stiff the guy for a couple of hundred if he wins.

    (If they do, at least we'll know, he can be a canary in the coal mines for everyone going after).

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    I dont like 5dimes use betjamaica the best book I have ever used

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    5Dimes and BJ sound best for what you described.

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    I have nothing but good things to say about 5Dimes. Lots of betting options compared to a book like TheGreek, reduced juice for $500 or less players, fast reliable payouts.....can't ask for much more.