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    MartinBlank
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    Question from a newbie

    This is going to be an unusual question, so bear with me.

    I have been using non-us books since the early 90's, when I joined Bowman. I left the offshores when Bowman sold their client list to Bodog 2 years ago, but I am now returning.

    Here is my question.

    Many of you when you are evaluating a book refer to "smaller" bettors enjoying BetJam more and the pros focusing in more on say, The Greek.

    I wager 200-300 on a given weekend, with my largest cash out from Bowmans being for little under 5K at the end of a season.

    Where on the scale does that place me? Obviously I am not a pro, but I also don't think I am a 10 weekend parlay ticket player either. Any recommendations from similar players?

    Thanks

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    mtneer1212
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    Bet Jam should serve you just fine.

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    bigboydan
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    I feel either BetJamacia or 5Dimes would be would be more ideal for you sir.

    I've taken the liberty to breakdown both of these books, and you can decide which one best suits your needs.

    5Dimes (SBR Rated A) is the way to go for baseball if your a recreational player that bets nickels, and haven't had your limits cut. But just watch out for those delays.

    They have no outstanding complaints or processing issues levied against them at this time. Not to mention they offer some pretty good payment solutions for U.S. players (Echecks most notably 300 max./14 day hold). Plus they offer one free fedex payout per month that you will usually get within about 3-5 business days.

    The bonus they offer for new customers is a 50% free play with a 5x rollover, and 20% reload bonuses.

    They use the ASI software (Which is nice IMO), not to mention the fact that [iSBRFORUM]5Dimes[/iSBRFORUM] has a couple of mirror sites, which helps during the down times:

    propbet.com
    www2.5dimes.com

    Did I mention nickel overnight lines (till 8am est), and offers a lot of prop wagering options.

    Here is the vig breakdowns 5Dimes, and a few of the other wagering options they have to offer:

    .10 up to -176
    .15 up to -201
    .20 up to -266
    .25 up to -280
    .30 up to -346
    .35 up to -361
    .40 up to -386
    .45 up to -421
    .50 up to -461

    Overnight Lines: Yes *See Nickel Lines Chart Below
    Reverse Run Lines: Yes
    5-inning lines: Yes: RLs, MLs & Totals
    Reduced Juice Totals: Yes**
    Reduced Juice RLs: Yes**
    Grand Salami Totals: Yes
    Team Totals: Yes


    Overnight Nickel Lines Chart

    .05 up to -162
    .06 up to -165
    .07 up to -193
    .08 up to -196
    .09 up to -198
    .10 up to -251
    .11 up to -253
    .12 up to -255
    .13 up to -257
    .14 up to -258
    .15 up to -266
    .16 up to -270
    .17 up to -273
    .18 up to -276
    .19 up to -278
    .20 up to -310


    The one complaint I do have against them though. I don't like the fact that they always have problems grading their prop bets. They are notorious for mis-grading those thing and their rules for those seem to have a very gray area IMHOO.



    BetJamaica (SBR Rated A+), part of the TheGreek family of books and use the ASI software, which I feel is pretty nice overall.

    BetJamaica (SBR Rated A+) is more of a recreation book and does offer nice reload bonuses (10 or 20% reup bonuses/$500 max, with a 4x's rollover), however since they are a recreational book they could cut your limits if your chasing steam and or other things of that nature.

    Their banking options for U.S. players have actually improved some over the last few months, because they are now offering Echecks (which is very nice feature these days, but info required to be faxed). Not to mention they do free book-to-book transfers ($500 min) with: TheGreek, Legendz, Pinnacle, 5Dimes and BookMaker and soon Wsex (note: Bookmaker will charge you incoming fees).

    The payouts are very prompt really for overnight checks (3-5 business days), and the withdraw fees are actually quite reasonable if you exceed the 1 free payout via fedex per calender month (min. $200/$35 flat fee if you exceed the freebie).

    Another thing I should make mention of since we have seen some DDos attacks this weekend is that they have a couple of mirror sites for emergency purposes.

    BetJamaica:

    http://mirror1.betjm.com
    http://mirror2.betjm.com

    They also are now offering an online chat service which is always a nice feature

    The lines they offer are very competitive with most other books IMO, and the use a dimeline up to -190 in baseball. Which I feel is great!

    Here is the baseball vig breakdown and betting options they will be offering this 2008 baseball season.


    .10 up to -190
    .13 up to -195
    .15 up to -200
    .18 up to -205
    .20 up to -240
    .25 up to -250
    .30 up to -280
    .35 up to -290
    .40 up to -300
    .45 up to -310
    .50 up to -320


    Overnight Lines: Yes
    Reverse Run Lines: Yes
    5-inning lines: Yes
    Reduced Juice Totals: No
    Grand Salami Totals: Yes
    Team Totals: No

    The drawbacks I do have about [iSBRFORUM]BetJamaica[/iSBRFORUM] is they only accept U.S. currencies

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    Dark Horse
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    If it's not just between BetJam and Greek, and depending on your type of wagers, Matchbook may be best.

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  5. #5
    MartinBlank
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    Guys, I appreciate the feedback.

    Bigboy, thanks a ton for the info.

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    InTheHole
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    Dan...I was unaware of that free FEDEX with 5Dimes...is this automatic or do I have to ask for it?

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    dunk
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    bet jam all the way for your needs.

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    bigboydan
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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheHole View Post
    Dan...I was unaware of that free FEDEX with 5Dimes...is this automatic or do I have to ask for it?
    It's 1 free withdraw every 30 days sir.

    free of charge once per 30 days if requested on Mondays between 9:00 AM and 1:00 PM ET.

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