[BAUS]

I opened a new account at Belmont.com on Jan 8 and sent $2000 via Moneybookers for their $500 sign up bonus.

I made some bets on Jan 8 and at the end of the day my balance was $4113.

The next day I received an email confirmation that my withdrawal request for $2000 was being processed. I had not requested such a withdrawal. I logged into my account to see that it had been "disabled".

I called CS and they told me that $2000 would be returned to me via Moneybookers. I asked about my remaining balance and he said "It is a management decision and no further correspondence will be entered into".

I sent an email and received this reply:

Dear BAUS,
Thank you for contacting us.
Unfortunately, your account has been disabled for security and verification purposes. We cannot disclose any details, other than this was a decision taken at Management level. Regrettably, we will be unable to enter into further correspondence pertaining to this matter. The funds will be send through the Moneybookers account you entered online. As soon as this is completed, we will send you an email notification.
We are always here to help you. Please feel free to reply to this email if you have any additional questions in relation to this or any other matter.
Kind regards,
Andrea Baker
--
Belmont Cashier
http://www.belmont.com
New Accounts Earn 10%, Referrals Earn 10%


I received my $2000 today to Moneybookers. They have stolen $1611 in winnings from me and the $500 bonus...well, whatever.

This is clearly a rogue operation who will steal from you.

And before anyone says "I told you so about Jazzette books" keep in mind that all the other Jazzette books, especially Hollywood, have treated me fairly over the years and always pay within 24-36 hours to Moneybookers.

BAUS

[trixtrix]

no offense, but it amazes me that looking at the history of sb.com thefts, players are still using excuses such as well they have PERSONALLY treated ME well in the past so i don't expect that to happen to ME.

well not saying that you deserve this happening to you, but what is the point of logging their theft history (as you're doing now) if players don't plan on factoring that into their decision-making process..

now the next guy is going to come into this thread and go "i know about your problems, but i'm sure i will be paid b/c jazzette always treated ME fairly blah blah blah.."

lol @ hollywood plug, yea obv they're so trustworthy as you found out, apparently their theft history from 4 years NOTago was indication enough

i hope you get your funds back dude, i also hope you learned a lesson from this

[Ace_of_Spades]

Hate hearing this shit, makes me edgy.

[socalaaron]

Do you have any form of recourse? Really Sucks.

[austin]

does Belmont.com actually allow to have accounts with other Jazzette books?

[RealSlimShady]

Horrible. But wouldve been way worse if they decided to pocket everything and not even return the deposit.

[LLXC]

Stay away from D/F books. :|

[Naz18]

I told you so about Jazzette books

[stikymess]

Have you at least put in complaint with SBR? I guess that 500 bonus was too tempting. Stick with better books.

[Nathan Bug Tyler]

all sports books are thief's, whether it be with your money or line odds, get use to it, part of the game, that's the price we pay.

[Wulfman14]

thats messed up if they did that, thanks for the heads up though

[Monte]

Baus is the type of bonus whore that isn't good for the industry anyway, nothing to see here

[AimingHigh]

Sorry to hear about this, OP.

I think it would be really useful if SBR were able to compile a definitive, accurate list of the "Jazette" books detailing who's ACTUALLY related to whom, what policies each sub-group has on multiple accounts within their sub-group or the larger group as a whole, etc. There seem to be a lot of varying stories, and it's sad when a book uses that uncertainty to try to steal from a player.

[patswin]

sorry to hear baus, i would file a complaint here at sbr or covers, i think they are a sponsor there

[Richkas]

SBR help this man.

[Scottish]

Man another Jazzette horror story

[ronald]

Would like to hear what Justin7 has to say. Perhaps he can assist.

[macb]

this guy is full of shit

[Spi]

That is the risk offshore. You have no recourse. Read what ViP did to me. At least a local bookie you could confront.

[Naz18]

That is the risk offshore. You have no recourse. Read what ViP did to me. At least a local bookie you could confront.

Yes but you can greatly minimize that risk by playing at a top book.

[Marginalis]

this guy is full of shit

[dangerfish]

In an industry where there is often no legal recourse it would be nice if there were other avenues of effective recourse. Filing a complaint is certainly one way of policing rogue bookmakers but I think for the most part that has little effect.

[BAUS]

no offense, but it amazes me that looking at the history of sb.com thefts, players are still using excuses such as well they have PERSONALLY treated ME well in the past so i don't expect that to happen to ME. well not saying that you deserve this happening to you, but what is the point of logging their theft history (as you're doing now) if players don't plan on factoring that into their decision-making process.. now the next guy is going to come into this thread and go "i know about your problems, but i'm sure i will be paid b/c jazzette always treated ME fairly blah blah blah.." lol @ hollywood plug, yea obv they're so trustworthy as you found out, apparently their theft history from 4 years NOTago was indication enough i hope you get your funds back dude, i also hope you learned a lesson from this

Risk vs Reward sir. I made this thread to warn people of how Belmont treated me. Not all Jazzette books behave in the same way. I should know, I've played at all of them.

Hollywood also closed my account, but returned all funds without keeping any for themselves.

BAUS

[BAUS]

does Belmont.com actually allow to have accounts with other Jazzette books?

You are allowed to have accounts at multiple Jazzette books, so long as it is not to circumvent limits, which I have never done.

BAUS

[BAUS]

I told you so about Jazzette books

Great post sir.

BAUS

[BAUS]

Baus is the type of bonus whore that isn't good for the industry anyway, nothing to see here

If bonuses weren't good for the industry, then the industry wouldn't offer them sir.

BAUS

[BAUS]

Sorry to hear about this, OP. I think it would be really useful if SBR were able to compile a definitive, accurate list of the "Jazette" books detailing who's ACTUALLY related to whom, what policies each sub-group has on multiple accounts within their sub-group or the larger group as a whole, etc. There seem to be a lot of varying stories, and it's sad when a book uses that uncertainty to try to steal from a player.

This group doesn't always behave rationally or consistently. For example, Hollywood closed my account and returned all funds, while Belmont returned some, yet also kept some for themselves.

Such a chart would be nice in theory, but in practice it would be worthless.

BAUS

[BAUS]

this guy is full of shit

Idiot.

BAUS

[firedawg]

abc islands is in this group correct?

[Deuce]

Compaqdikk written all over it.

[BAUS]

abc islands is in this group correct?

No sir.

BAUS

[BAUS]

Compaqdikk written all over it.

No sir.

BAUS

[Birre]

Some jazette books do this kind of thing others or fine. I had the same problem with Linesmaker, they didn't want to explain why it had been closed and they didn't even want documents. Their was a note under my account that my account couldn't be reopened. Seems like some kind of false security warning. Other jaz books like Brobury and sportsbetting or fine and didn't close my account (Brobury temp. disabled it and after I send them documents it was reopened).

[ronald]

Some jazette books do this kind of thing others or fine. I had the same problem with Linesmaker, they didn't want to explain why it had been closed and they didn't even want documents. Their was a note under my account that my account couldn't be reopened. Seems like some kind of false security warning. Other jaz books like Brobury and sportsbetting or fine and didn't close my account (Brobury temp. disabled it and after I send them documents it was reopened).

Sportsbetting is not part of jazette group. Dindon.

[BrianLaverty]

I told you so about Jazzette books

yep... +1