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    smiler5000
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    Rollover on BetUS

    I stupidly put money in betus and was told i had to wager $6400 before i can withdraw. i have now wagered over $8000 and they when they refused payout they said

    "Our apologies for this delay. So far you have wagered $2864.6 out of $6550.0. Please keep in mind that Only sportsbook activity counts towards the rollover condition and only half of your baseball action applies. Propositions, halves and quarters wagers do not apply. Note that the smaller of the risk/win wager amount is the one that is used in the rollover calculation. Thank you."

    Can they change the rules like this? i was told no conditions as to what wagers count and dont count when i joined.

    Also, if i manage to arb the money out using an exchange, can they try and do anything about it? quoting any stupid rules they might have about abusing their financial system or anything like that? i would love to arb it all and then have the satisfaction of telling them i had got my money out that way, with no charge.

    Any help with my questions would be greatly appreciated.

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    I'd trust a crack whore holding my money over BetUS, read some of the comments on this scambook and see why they have to offer 10000% bonuses to get any1 to signup

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    I don't if I should laugh or feel sorry for you. Why don't people do any extensive research anymore nowadays. Especially when sending your money to an offshore sportsbook.

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    he probably went to EOG and got them reccomended! and it is normal for casino activity not to count

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    I havent touched the casino, all been on sports.

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    who sent you in the direction of these clowns anyways? if you dont mind me asking

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    smiler5000
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    my uncle who was doing the "******************" baseball picks. he said he was doing well and showed me his betting account list, after seeing that i didnt think it would be too bad, he had no problems so i signed up.

    Then realised that the baseball picks are rubbish and will end with losing money so stopped straight away and started trying to tally up enough bets to withdraw.....and here i am.

    I think i will just arb it out using an exchange, no charges that way, and just betting randomly usually ensures you end up losing so laying everything on an exchange that i back on BetUS should mean i get it back.

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    Unless they catch you and steal your funds which would not be surprising

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    It's in their T&C. The part about smaller of risk/win is standard. The limitation to sportsbook is standard (ones that allow casino weight it differently). The limits on what wagers count are the lamest I've seen.

    Now, if they added this stuff after you signed up, which I have no idea about, or you have a record (or recording) of being told differently, you have
    a complaint to pursue. Good luck.

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    Cheers for your help, ill try and wager it thorough on straight bets, no handicaps, or points or anything like that. see how i am getting on after Euro 08, and a bit more tennis.

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    Arbing scambooks doesn't work, if they refuse to pay you it doesn't matter how well you've done. Betting 50 dollars at an A book and then 50 dollars on the opposite side with a homeless man who's giving you good odds is not the foolproof system you think it is, my advice to you would be to pull your money out of that book (assuming they'll let you pull it out as they've prolly already given half to EOG for advertising) and post up at an A book

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    betus isn't in the wrong here. its shitty rules but there rules are posted.

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    Smiler, your in a tough spot with theses guys, your uncle's plays have no relevance here,
    as it wouldn't make a difference if you had tomorrow's newspaper in hand today, with the results.

    As earlier stated by Frosto, now a days research is imperative.

    So now your in the bottom of the 9th your team is stuck 7-1 you still got a shot,
    albeit extremely thin.

    IMO............ your only shot is to STOP BETTING WITH THEM a.s.a.p and have
    Bill Dozer got to bat for you here.

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    Ok, thanks again for your replies. Ill see if i can wager it through over the next month or so, with the tennis and euro 08 on, should be a decent amount of bets to do. If only i knew that the run line bets on baseball dont count then i wouldnt have done all those bets!!!!
    If i cant win enough to withdraw then ill come back here.

    Oh well, lesson learnt, and at the moment its not an expensive one, just one that is gonna take a while to pay me back.

    Thanks again for your help guys.

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    My friend ask for the Casino Bonus at Betus .Instead of regular Sportbook bonus if he wins in the Casino ( rollover also ) that money goes right into his Sportbook account ,No worries about cashing out or Rollover on bets to cash out . Betus Scams you they no how hard it is to rollover all that money and cash out .

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    Dont Use Betus.com

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    Kiss your money goodbye and get over it. We dont need a betus thread everyday.

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    Recently on BetUS.com, I noticed that a wager I had lost did not appear in my recent wagering activity with all the rest of my wagers. After a couple days the wager still didn't appear in my wager history. However, my BetUS.com balances reflected the loss.

    Is there anything beneficial or detrimental about not having that lost wager appear in my wager history?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by IHeartMMA View Post
    Recently on BetUS.com, I noticed that a wager I had lost did not appear in my recent wagering activity with all the rest of my wagers. After a couple days the wager still didn't appear in my wager history. However, my BetUS.com balances reflected the loss.

    Is there anything beneficial or detrimental about not having that lost wager appear in my wager history?

    Thanks
    If you aren't cashing out you probably want them to show your account logs in order. One scenario is they could debit you again claiming it was never deducted previously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smiler5000 View Post

    Also, if i manage to arb the money out using an exchange, can they try and do anything about it? quoting any stupid rules they might have about abusing their financial system or anything like that? i would love to arb it all and then have the satisfaction of telling them i had got my money out that way, with no charge.

    Any help with my questions would be greatly appreciated.
    I don't understand this statement. If you lost the money to betus and won it at Matchbook playing the other side betus now has all your money. Why would this bother them?

    Edit: Never mind I thought you were trying to lose it all into an exchange, I see now you were just trying to increase your amount wagered for rollover purposes.
    Last edited by Art Vandeleigh; 06-11-08 at 03:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer View Post
    If you aren't cashing out you probably want them to show your account logs in order. One scenario is they could debit you again claiming it was never deducted previously.
    You are right, thank you for the advice. I will clear this up with them.

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    You're welcome. You probably want to take a screenshot (toolbar) of your balance on your history screen too.

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    d'oh the problem was actually me being a dumbass and the interface being kind of strange. There is a separate "wager history" section which recorded the wager as a loss. However the account activity section that I was looking at doesn't have separate "wager lost" items, only "wager won" items, which is what confused me.

    thanks again

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