[moonbeam]

... to bash this mafia company called SBR.

SBR reminds me of the Italian mafia that wants to extort protection money.

[BChrisB]

Please explain?

[moonbeam]

There are a lot of european forums I can say the truth about your business.
Thatīs what I do from now on.

SBRīs business is dead. You donīt know this. But not everyone is that stupid than americans

[robmpink]

... to bash this mafia company called SBR.

SBR reminds me of the Italian mafia that wants to extort protection money.

Do then censor negative feedback about them done with some class?

[Mikail]

Tell us more Moonbeam

[HedgeHog]

There are a lot of european forums I can say the truth about your business.
Thatīs what I do from now on.

SBRīs business is dead. You donīt know this. But not everyone is that stupid than americans

Not sure I understand your rant. But then again, I am an American.

[moonbeam]

Why are scam books like BetPhoenix or 5Dimes are rated A here?
Because they pay the protection money.

[oiler]

apparntly moonbeam must be looking in the mirror at himself and he doesnt understand what hes saying either

[frankthetank]

americans are super smart

[BChrisB]

Moonbeam,

The only way your going to get your point across is by stating your case. All ears are open, so please tell. You may even get support from us Americans if your argument is valid.

[Mikail]

Please explain? I wan't to know. I have my suspicions but need verification.

[Mikail]

can I have your points if your leaving Moonbeam? I could really use them.

[BChrisB]

I'll admit one thing that I noticed, is that I've been coming to this site for years before I ever registered. To make a long story short, SBR used to have that write-up on signs of a troubled sports book which was only one link deep from their main index page. It went in depth how cold calling for deposits was a warning sign etc, etc. Well Bookmaker started it cold calling relentlessly and I couldn't understand how SBR didn't note that and kept Bookmaker at the A+ Rating. In essence, bookmaker's practices where (and still are) mirroring what was SBR's argument as a troubled book, yet no downgrade, and I don't know where that article is now on sbr, it was either deleted or buried because I can no longer find it. It's funny because that was actually one of the key pages.

I wonder what SBR would think about Bookmaker if their knew that Bookmaker recently and retroactively shortened their cookie expirations to only 14 days for affiliate ID's and did this without notice to any affiliate. LOL, bookmaker is stealing off SBR (their largest affiliate) as well and they probably don't even know it. I'm sure SBR would know more than any other affiliate on the planet for sportbooks (because they are probably the largest for quite a few books) that 14 days expiration isn't just impractical, but it's really stealing.

Anyways, there are some things I wish SBR would stand up on. I think they do more good than evil ... or should I just say, they have more pros than cons. However, being 100% unbiased would give them much more validity in the eyes of it's members.

[Peep]

The main value of SBR is in the posts, not the ratings.....

[robmpink]

The main value of SBR is in the posts, not the ratings.....

traffic=more advertising money from a book=sbr sides with the book for practically all disputes.

[Peep]

traffic=more advertising money from a book=sbr sides with the book for practically all disputes.

News to me.

I have had them work on two or three disputes, they never once sided with the book.

Have you ever had a dispute with a book where they sided with the book Rob?

[richb7a]

5dimes is a good book

[BChrisB]

Lastly,

Maybe some of the books don't deserve the A+ Rating, however, calling books like 5dimes "scam books" is actually more off base than SBR calling them an A+.

[RonPaul2008]

5dimes is definitely not a scam, but they a definitely a pussy book that is afraid to take bets from anyone who knows that they are doing.

[mminkovski]

SBR is good, you just need to pay attention when taking advantage of bookies' bad lines

[MBENZ]

Not a big fan of some of the ratings but SBR is one of the few sites around that allow the player to express their dissatisfaction with a book without their post being deleted.Instead of taking SBRs rating as the gospel,do your own work and read what some posters say and you should be able to avoid shark infested waters.

[teaserpleaser]

stupid americans... this guy is pissed off Euros think this often but to need to post it a mod hit a nerve. Why do Euros hate us?

[zebras99]

SBR ratings have their minuses, but it's a pretty good measure to get the basic info about the bookie. Then you just need to do more digging.

[wtt0315]

ok whats going on

[Border Gadgie]

Very strange post........what exactly are you ranting about?

[Santo]

This probably isn't the way to express it, but there certainly is a debate to be had on the way issues at different books are tackled and the policy on non US-facing/SBR-communicating books in general.

[AribaAriba]

they're just envious on sbr because they dont make as much money as them

[wrongturn]

Moonbeam, your posts probably went to Private Zone, a lost+found area.

[LGBoots]

SBR are fine by me. They sorted out a couple of problems I had with books pretty quickly

[moonbeam]

can I have your points if your leaving Moonbeam? I could really use them.

I believe this. But Iīm a restricted user Mikail. SBR donīt allow to give you my points.