[Arilou]

Greek does limit and when you call in they hear what you want, how much you want, think about who you are, look around at the screen and decide how much to fill you for.

[richb7a]

pinnacle does not allow us accounts. Who is a fed? I would love to abolish the federal reserve

[peterd78]

I used to work for a big Euro book and can say that in their case it's definitely not just about profit. I have seen accounts up hundreds of thousands that have been limited up so they can bet more than the standard amount, in other words give those profits back quicker. I have also seen losing accounts limited to 1% of the standard bet beacuse the risk department believes they won't keep losing.
There are many factors in their decision to limit, certainly arbing is something they really don't like and you will be limited within a couple of bets if they think that's what you're up to. In general they look for patterns in your betting behaviour, if they think you're getting on in god spots you'll be limited down regardless of profit / loss and vice versa.

I have never used a US book, I find them very hard to navigate but I'm very surprised to read on here that many don't limit or close accounts, the Euro books love to do it and if it's not illegal then it seems foolish not to do it.
After all it wasn't it vegas that started it all by banning winners.

[Hareeba!]

I used to work for a big Euro book and can say that in their case it's definitely not just about profit. I have seen accounts up hundreds of thousands that have been limited up so they can bet more than the standard amount, in other words give those profits back quicker. I have also seen losing accounts limited to 1% of the standard bet beacuse the risk department believes they won't keep losing.
There are many factors in their decision to limit, certainly arbing is something they really don't like and you will be limited within a couple of bets if they think that's what you're up to. In general they look for patterns in your betting behaviour, if they think you're getting on in god spots you'll be limited down regardless of profit / loss and vice versa.

agree, that's consistent with my experiences
pretty sure that if you are sniping the best prices they virtually regard you as an arber (which I'm not) but to them I suppose it has the same effect

I have never used a US book, I find them very hard to navigate but I'm very surprised to read on here that many don't limit or close accounts, the Euro books love to do it and if it's not illegal then it seems foolish not to do it.
After all it wasn't it vegas that started it all by banning winners.

if by US books you mean the Caribbean etc, they mostly will limit or even kick you out with the exception of Pinnacle and if you haven't got an account there you're just not serious about your betting

[increasedodds]

Pinnacle will let you bet whatever you want because it is impossible to bet steam there.

[sportscardheaven]

Pinnacle was the best. Wish US had it back

[Hareeba!]

Pinnacle will let you bet whatever you want because it is impossible to bet steam there.

really?
how do you figure that?
your definition of 'steam' must be rather limited ?

[craigpb]

There are plenty of losers so if you bet like most people, even if you are doing really well, I don't see why they would even limit you.

[Monte]

I have never used a US book, I find them very hard to navigate but I'm very surprised to read on here that many don't limit or close accounts, the Euro books love to do it and if it's not illegal then it seems foolish not to do it.
After all it wasn't it vegas that started it all by banning winners.

because some of the U.S. books are still real bookmakers who worry more about managing their book and lines rather than the player.
Euro books suck, you just described it nicely thou. So they hate arbers, how ironical that they do not mind if loosers go broke. I wish the gov. would go after them instead of places like Wsex, because they are much more dangerous with their shiny layouts only made for luring the gambling addicts in.

[sdtrader]

Matchbook of course, they just make money on each trade and don't care if you win or lose.

[peterd78]

because some of the U.S. books are still real bookmakers who worry more about managing their book and lines rather than the player.
Euro books suck, you just described it nicely thou. So they hate arbers, how ironical that they do not mind if loosers go broke. I wish the gov. would go after them instead of places like Wsex, because they are much more dangerous with their shiny layouts only made for luring the gambling addicts in.

Surely for the owners of a betting company, the aim is to maximise profits. I agree that the Euro books are unethical, greedy, bloodsucking etc. but it's just business at the end of the day so I don't blame them. I understand you can generate a much larger turnover by not imposing any limits but the fact that the vast majority of books do limit seems to indicates that it's the best way to go.
I personally use Betfair which is by far the best Euro book. Can't say I know much about pinnacle to be honest but I'll have to look into them. I think enxchange betting has got to be the way forward for the bookmaking industry as a whole.

[richb7a]

and living inthe usa. I believe 5dimes, Matchbook is good want to hear other opinions

[Hareeba!]

and living inthe usa. I believe 5dimes, Matchbook is good want to hear other opinions

well all I can say is I'm glad I don't live in the USA

without Betfair and Pinnacle I don't think I could do it

Matchbook is okay to a point but if you want to bet on anything other than US sports you're in trouble

5D limit you to waste of time levels after you show any talent for getting top prices so that's unlikely to be a useful option for very long

[Absolutelyonfire]

Bookmaker , Greek , Betonline

[Arilou]

All good choices so far (although I don't know Betonline that well myself, and some of the others limit you but you should ride them until that happens) and I would add Grande but the bottom line is that if you're serious about betting sports you find a way into the non-USA books. Using USA-facing books to bet non-USA sports is miserable and using them to bet USA sports isn't much better.

[Monte]

lol making a living with Tony and 5Dimes, good luck...unless you are good with 200 bucks/month ofc

[Ruifgalmeida]

lol making a living with Tony and 5Dimes, good luck...unless you are good with 200 bucks/month ofc

lol,

[dark star]

Grande for sure

[jcurro]

Pinnacle by far the best

[fido007]

Grande for sure

How can I sign up with Grande.what is their juice on NHL money lines? Thanx

[JoeVig]

The best book is the book that pays.

[BrianLaverty]

Matchbook and Greek.

[TomG]

richb7a, have you ever considered playing the stock market? you won't have to deal with any nonsense.

[richb7a]

I do trade the financial equity markets, I would hope 5dimes fixes there check procesing.

[yisman]

rich, if 5 Dimes fixes whatever problem you're claiming to have, will you stop posting five threads a day?

[Absolutelyonfire]

agree, that's consistent with my experiences
pretty sure that if you are sniping the best prices they virtually regard you as an arber (which I'm not) but to them I suppose it has the same effect



if by US books you mean the Caribbean etc, they mostly will limit or even kick you out with the exception of Pinnacle and if you haven't got an account there you're just not serious about your betting

Are you speaking from personal experience , as I don't think it is the case NOT with the reputable books anyways like The Greek and Bookmaker ??

[Ganesh]

5 Dimes

[richb7a]

ilike 5dimes they are a good book,I want to able to take out 3k plus monday with fedex check, or wire fast. I believe 5dimes , greek both want your business.

[trixtrix]

5dimes want your business if you're retarded

so you're good there, op

[richb7a]

5 dimes is good book, there are lots of bettors who do sport betting arbitrage. Please judge others as you would want to be judged. When we judge others we are really judging ourselves.

[trixtrix]

nobody would care if you arb, but unless you're arbing threads per day on sbr, you're creating an atmosphere which ruins the fun for the rest of us

[richb7a]

please, lets have fun. I never had the experience which I mentioned. I know 5dime is a solid book, matchbook is good