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    WAGERWEB incapable of keeping their word on ANYTHING

    good evening folks, with 2010-2011 NFL season draws near, i imagine most of you are looking at sportsbook to deposit for wagering on the season. based on personal experience (fact will be listed below), I DO NOT RECOMMEND WAGERWEB as a place that you should deposit your money.

    wagerweb, based on my experience, 1.) will retroactively confiscate BOTH your winnings AND you deposits. 2.)Additionally, they will NOT keep their word in regards to promised payment. as we know, in this business nothing matters more than keeping your words especially in regards to payment, one should never deal with someone considered untrustworthy.

    it is point 2 that brings me to post this thread, point 1 has already been convered here:

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    however, in interest of fact finding, i will briefly list summary of the thread here:

    1.) during sep-oct of 2009 NFL season, i placed plethora of parlays on wagerweb, some with higher degree of correlation than others. wagerweb's system denied some of the parlays and accepted others, showing that the software has the ability to block unwanted parlays and it was being put to use.

    2.) during the two months, i had both winning AND losing streaks, at one point losing close to 10k and having to redeposit to my account. i was given a reload bonus for my redeposit indicating they're satisfied with my play. in october, i went on a winning streak with my parlays, and my account was limited so i stopped wagering there. at the time i stopped placing wagers, i had slightly above 11k in my account.

    3.) in december, TWO MONTHS after my last wager, wagerweb confiscated 9K+ from my acct. they stated that they were retroactively taking my winnings from my parlays earlier. however, my records indicate i won only 4k+ NET from these parlays, yet they confiscated 9k+. they were unresponsive both to me and sbr inquiry as to why that is. additionally, when i posted on sbr what had happened, they suspended my account and confiscated my remaining funds, which were around 2k; again, with no explanation why when pressed. so in total, they have take 11k+ from my acct in two seperate unexplainable incidents.

    4.) when presented with the above facts, which was agreed upon by both sides, sbr ruled in my favour. wagerweb refused to accept the decision as they claim sbr is biased against them. i was told to contact OSGA whose ruling wagerweb WILL ABIDE by (their own words)

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    this is what happened since then:

    5.) i reached out to OSGA in accordance with wagerweb's wishes regarding this matter. osga ruled that wagerweb owes me a partial payment of 4k+, a decision that I not fully comfortable with but at least it's a start. wagerweb also claimed that i circumvented limits b/c i wagered on both sides of the same game, or if i wager on 1st half and game lines. when objected to, dan claimed this is not what he meant and he has other evidence that i circumvented additional wagers, but he refused to provide proof when asked.

    6.) i reached out to dan from wagerweb several times in regards to the partial payment of 4k+ as in accordance to the ruling by osga. dan was unresponsive initially, and finally replied to me in june, saying the slowpay was deliberate, but agreed to pay me the 4k+ as ruled. I was told to send in my ID and banking info, which i immediately took care of. since i responded with all document necessary for withdraw on june 3rd, 2010, it has been over 2 months, they have NEITHER been in contact with NOR sent a penny in payment as promised. (i will provide the last few correspondence below)




    CONCLUSION: so not only will wagerweb retroactively confiscate your balance with little or no reason, they WILL NOT stick by their own word in regards to any payout promised. a company like is not worth doing business with, therefore it is my opinion that anyone looking to deposit for the NFL season should take their business elsewhere.

    ps: premptive strike before the shill eagle1957 (the millionaire who wagers 5$ on horse racing) try to come in and derail this thread:
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    WagerWeb is incapable of anything, period.

    Almost definitely the worst sportsbook online that isn't a deposit-only shop.

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    That is a gruesome story, I am sorry that happened to you.

    SBR - how is this insufficient to change WagerWeb's rating to F?

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    the latest two email correspondence pasted below, note the dates, since my last reply to them on JUNE 4 i have not received a cent from wagerweb

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    From: xxx
    To: dan@wagerweb
    Sent: Fri, June 4, 2010 10:25:20 AM
    Subject: RE: Withdraw from my account

    1. Copy of your ID (Scan copy in color)
    Attached.

    2. Your banking information to do an international wire.
    xxxx

    I never played at your book under an alias, and I never will.

    Regards, xx

    account: xxx
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    From: "dan@wagerwebxxx"
    To: xxd@yahoo.com
    Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 9:05:29 PM
    Subject: RE: Withdraw from my account

    xx,

    If you want to go ahead and tarnish our reputation I welcome you to go ahead to that bogus site.

    Secondly, with reference to circumventing limits, you found a glitch in our system and found a way to wager twice the amount by betting the first bet A and B and the second bet B and A.
    You are well aware of this and yet you play like it never happened.

    It is your responsability to know our rules on our site and abide by them. Yet you seem to want to ignore the rules and find a bogus site that will back up your story.

    With reference to your payment, I will honor the settlement that was agreed with OSGA.


    We do not want your action in this sportsbook and if you decide to come back and open under an alias and we catch you, we will close your account and you will have to wait 5 year to collect.

    We do not want your business since your interest is to find glitches and take advantage of sportbooks. We do not take abusers or scammers in this outfit.
    Please forward me the following documentation in order to process your payment

    1. Copy of your ID (Scan copy in color)

    2. Your banking information to do an international wire.

    Once I receive this information I will then proceed to place your payment for processing.

    Take your stories elsewhere.

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    Gotta love a book that hates it when you take both sides of a game

    Unreal, bunch of thieving clowns at WagerWeb

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    wagerweb stiffed me out of $3,000 in 2006,**** them,rot in hell you ******* crooks

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    That is a gruesome story, I am sorry that happened to you.

    SBR - how is this insufficient to change WagerWeb's rating to F?
    Buddy, what happened as explained here by the OP is a drop in the bucket compared to what SBG Global did, but you are happy as a hippo there.

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    Based on my experiences with them I have been paid and satisfied for the past 4 years. That is my experience with them. I'm a rec better who goes on streaks and hits a low 5 figure payout every now and then. I deposit often and play often.

    Thats my piece to add to this. That is it.



    I'll take a page out of the OP book and forecast a strike by "Sarah" aka Wagerwebsucks questioning if I work the wagerweb company gloryhole as a part time job. No SarahWagerwebsucks, I don't.
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    What a disgusting story. trixtrix, you need to go to TheGreek.com or some other establishment that is an A+ book. Tough luck for you. Nothing like getting stiffed out of 5 figures.

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    Your WagerWeb story is nearly identical to my 2007 expierence with Sportsbook.com. I also had $9k confiscated from SB and they refused any mediation in the matter. I hadn't won anywhere near that amount, yet they took it all. Sportsbook.com should be avoided as well as WagerWeb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyon804 View Post
    What a disgusting story. trixtrix, you need to go to TheGreek.com or some other establishment that is an A+ book. Tough luck for you. Nothing like getting stiffed out of 5 figures.
    the greek doesn't allow

    usc -17 parlayed with the over 24 1st half


    OP knows what he is doing.



    should he have been stiffed?

    NO

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    the greek doesn't allow

    usc -17 parlayed with the over 24 1st half

    this is wrong:

    1.) wagerweb's system will reject anything that overly correlated, in fact it does not allow anything where spread/total is > 50%, we're talking about something such as -9/over 24

    2.) greek accepts more +ev derivatives than wagerweb, there is a reason why they are quick to limit accounts to 50 max limits on parlays/teasers

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    9 and 24 is still nice.

    i'm on your side.

    i was just letting the poster know that you know the greek will pay you when you ask them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmpink View Post
    Buddy, what happened as explained here by the OP is a drop in the bucket compared to what SBG Global did, but you are happy as a hippo there.
    No stiff in 3 years is enough to make me as happy as a hippo. I take my risks and I'd be surprised if I don't post here about getting stiffed somewhere in the next year or two - for me it is a cost of doing business.

    Meanwhile WagerWeb seems to fukk every single person who walks through their door. It has been happening for years, and continues to happen every couple of months to this day. Those who lose don't realize that that British sack of shit running the show there is waiting at the exit with a 2x4 in his hand waiting to whack any winners that try to leave with any cash. And those who do win leave with a bruise and a severely depleted wallet - every single one of them it seems - the damage just varies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trixtrix View Post

    2.) greek accepts more +ev derivatives than wagerweb, there is a reason why they are quick to limit accounts to 50 max limits on parlays/teasers
    The greek is a fine example of how an "A+" rated book handles players who catch them on a CP or other derivative with too much EV.

    Greek linesman: "Look here. This player got us good. We goofed, and he slammed us on this CP/teaser/derivative."
    Wally: "Pay him. Cut his limits to $50/wager. If he keeps betting it, cut it again."

    Honorable, and fair.

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    Wager Web is a piece of shit book. Stay away and do your homework in the future. I'm sorry you lost money with those ass clowns but I couldn't find one good thing about them when I checked them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    No stiff in 3 years is enough to make me as happy as a hippo. I take my risks and I'd be surprised if I don't post here about getting stiffed somewhere in the next year or two - for me it is a cost of doing business.

    Meanwhile WagerWeb seems to fukk every single person who walks through their door. It has been happening for years, and continues to happen every couple of months to this day. Those who lose don't realize that that British sack of shit running the show there is waiting at the exit with a 2x4 in his hand waiting to whack any winners that try to leave with any cash. And those who do win leave with a bruise and a severely depleted wallet - every single one of them it seems - the damage just varies.
    What's the scoop on the ownership there now ? They were a decent "B" level book 5 years ago ... then they seemed to go to shit over the next few years. Different owners, I assume ?

    I still have about $1,500 there from a couple of years ago ... lines are too middle-of-the-road to make many bets there, and teaser odds are terrible.

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    I don't know, haven't played there in about a year.

    The British sack of shit is Jamie, I believe. I tried to explain to him the difference between a freeplay and a cash bonus, but nothing got through.

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    ...

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    WagerWeb is a scooby-doo operation. Gimme a break!

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    Played there alot during the neteller days, will not go back there now, no reason to.
    This place seemed to go downhill since

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    I liked them when they were Casablanca. Went to Shit though. They used to take a lot of correlated stuff and pay fast by Neteller.....back when you could win betting sports.

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    Bump

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    Bump

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    Wagerweb was the next stop on the list of shit books that Chuck from Wagerhub went to when he left there. He contacted me asking me to give them a try but it didnt work out so well nor did I expect it to.

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    Man o' Man

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    Thanks for the reminders, Trixtrix.

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    thx for the bump ei, no updates from wagerweb since i posted this thread, they're still robbing me blind

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    Worst book on planet

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    Bump

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    They seem to keep their word with me. Of course I didn't try to do 100's of cp's with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmpink View Post
    They seem to keep their word with me. Of course I didn't try to do 100's of cp's with them.

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    Terrible book, can't hurt to repeat it so nobody else is scammed.

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    Never had a problem here. Collected over 10 grand this past year with no glitches

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    Wagerweb has always paid me time after time.CS is good too

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