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    Demote Bodog Now

    Seriously guys whats it gonna take for people to finally realize that bodog sucks. slow payouts blah blah blah. ive been waiting for a month for my payout from there. there are just so many better options instead of bodog

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    If Bodog doesn't have a solution in place now we will have to lower the rating to reflect withdrawal delays. I am told by players they are getting word that new checks are en route. When the issue is actually processing like in this case it is just matter of time but players having to fight these delays is a valid complaint. We will get the update tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer View Post
    If Bodog doesn't have a solution in place now we will have to lower the rating to reflect withdrawal delays. I am told by players they are getting word that new checks are en route. When the issue is actually processing like in this case it is just matter of time but players having to fight these delays is a valid complaint. We will get the update tomorrow.
    Bill, any new info on this subject. I recently requested payout and am wondering what to expect.

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    Bodog tells us they are almost caught up with rerouting the payments that were initiated with the latest processor dropout.

    Currently a new request is going to take 15 business days and is maxed at $3,000. If the amount requested is more than $3,000, additional checks will be sent each 3 business days apart.

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    This has happened time and again with them Bill, and quite frankly players having to wait months for checks several times over is unacceptable. How they are even a "B" is beyond me and has been beyond me for quite sometime...

    And three more weeks for these players just for $3K, followed by a $3K cap every subsequent three days is a joke. Having them above some of the B+ through C+ books is nuts.

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    Just look at the banner on the SBRforum.com home page for a reminder of why Bodog's rating is what it is.

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    Bodog has been great for the industry. (WWTS anyone?)

    If they are having a hard time getting checks out blame the
    us government.

    Any book operating in defiance of the us government deserves very ample time to send payment!

    As long as the average time stays mildly reasonable they are A+++ .

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    I agree demote them now they have become too big for their own good , typical case were the customer is just a number .

    It kinda pisses me off that you people continue time and time again and accept BS from this book that the goverment wont rest until Calvin Ayre is driven out , he has been to busy spending money on his whores and parties very publicly while you the same people who put him there takes a A MONTH to get paid meanwhile people are going through the embarassment of cashing in BAD CHECKS??

    Not once but several times has it happend YOU ? The famous Bill Dozer is gonna keep a book endorsed after sending back to back batches of bad checks over the course of the years... I have seen you demote books for less than that.

    BODOG .. if you cant handle the game anymore leave..

    I dont give a **** about the processor and the only reason they cant send money out is because the CEO of the company thought he was made of gold , he is just a wine drink swine that really doesnt care about his customers in my book .

    DEMOTE NOW
    Last edited by SSLP; 03-04-08 at 02:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSLP View Post
    Not once but several times has it happend YOU ? The famous Bill Dozer is gonna keep a book endorsed after sending back to back batches of bad checks over the course of the years... I have seen you demote books for less than that.
    You've been here for less than a week and seem to know a lot about Bill. Ever worked for a sportsbook?

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    8 years working in books

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSLP View Post
    I agree demote them now they have become too big for their own good , typical case were the customer is just a number .

    It kinda pisses me off that you people continue time and time again and accept BS from this book that the goverment wont rest until Calvin Ayre is driven out , he has been to busy spending money on his whores and parties very publicly while you the same people who put him there takes a A MONTH to get paid meanwhile people are going through the embarassment of cashing in BAD CHECKS??

    Not once but several times has it happend YOU ? The famous Bill Dozer is gonna keep a book endorsed after sending back to back batches of bad checks over the course of the years... I have seen you demote books for less than that.

    BODOG .. if you cant handle the game anymore leave..

    I dont give a **** about the processor and the only reason they cant send money out is because the CEO of the company thought he was made of gold , he is just a wine drink swine that really doesnt care about his customers in my book .

    DEMOTE NOW

    does it really matter how long ive been in this for?

    And why the change of topic ??? and why is Bodog given chances time and time again when other places get demoted in a heartbeat ??

    I am not here for work I am here as a poster and thats a question im sure me and quite a few others would like to get cleared up.


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    Bodog is horrific at payouts. Its one of the reasons I don't want to bother funding it (and the fact I'm not sure how).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSLP View Post
    does it really matter how long ive been in this for?

    And why the change of topic ??? and why is Bodog given chances time and time again when other places get demoted in a heartbeat ??

    I am not here for work I am here as a poster and thats a question im sure me and quite a few others would like to get cleared up.

    Thanks Thremp I still would like to have Mr.Dozer clear that up for me .

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSLP View Post
    does it really matter how long ive been in this for?

    And why the change of topic ??? and why is Bodog given chances time and time again when other places get demoted in a heartbeat ??

    I am not here for work I am here as a poster and thats a question im sure me and quite a few others would like to get cleared up.

    The only book that was downgraded for processing post-Neteller was Bodog. Sportsbetting.com, Sportsbook.com and WSEX have had check issues. As long as each are addressing them and have the means to do so they won't be downgraded for them and a lot of times it isn't newsworthy. All books that make changes are expected to update their website to avoid false advertising. That was an on-going problem with Jazz.

    One of the biggest challenges for SBR right now is to find out what is behind a payout delay. Every book that isn't able to send a withdrawal on time cries "processing" and expects a free pass. We saw this with LazerWager when their credit card processor wouldn't pay. That's not a processing error of course...it's being stiffed by a business partner and not being able to recover. With Bodog it's a matter of 8,500 checks going through each processor at a given time. Putting that through another processor is going to create some backup.

    One of the player's first priorities is playing with books that have been around for a very long time, playing with the strongest financially, and, as operaman mentioned, have been a proven business and an industry leader. That said, if Bodog continues to run into problems while other top books are able to consistently offer the same service their rating will have to be lowered again.
    Last edited by Bill Dozer; 03-04-08 at 10:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by operaman View Post
    Bodog has been great for the industry. (WWTS anyone?)

    If they are having a hard time getting checks out blame the
    us government.

    Any book operating in defiance of the us government deserves very ample time to send payment!

    As long as the average time stays mildly reasonable they are A+++ .
    I respectfully call a very loud BULLSHIT. I will agree with you that their marketing to small time players and college students was quite good.

    When you have books like TheGreek, WSEX, etc. making same day money transfers and two day checks without an iota of a hiccup, how can you excuse such poor customer service and repeated payout problems? If they're an A with a bunch of plus signs in your book so be it, but I'd say you have awfully low standards. If you're only prerequisite is simply that a book pays eventually, you're good to go on virtually all D+ books listed (and will get paid faster with better customer service by all of them as well). By your standards, you'd be filling up the entire screen with plus signs if you played at one of the professional industy-leading books...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBollocks View Post

    When you have books like TheGreek, WSEX, etc. making same day money transfers and two day checks without an iota of a hiccup, how can you excuse such poor customer service and repeated payout problems?
    BB, Actually Wsex is currently having processing issues right now themselves, however TheGreek and 5Dimes haven't missed a beat yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboydan View Post
    BB, Actually Wsex is currently having processing issues right now themselves, however TheGreek and 5Dimes haven't missed a beat yet.
    It was pretty ****ing funny IMO. 5Dimes just busies itself with bush league tactics and being a recreational book. Though payouts are its strong suit from what I've heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBollocks View Post
    When you have books like TheGreek, WSEX, etc. making same day money transfers and two day checks without an iota of a hiccup, how can you excuse such poor customer service and repeated payout problems?
    So why do cappers keep putting money in Bodog?

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    The only reason bodog should have been a A book brfore the end of netteller was because they were solid with deposits and payouts. As a player they have nothing to offer at this point.

    • Can’t live up to there own payout deadline
    • Hard to fund no ***************
    • Late lines
    • Duel lines

    Not an A book there are much better options out there. I am on day 14 of cashing out my account with them and have no tracking number and doubt I will see anything tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by rake922 View Post
    So why do cappers keep putting money in Bodog?
    Easy - marketing is Bodog's strong suit. For many rec. players, Bodog's likely the first (maybe even only) book they're aware of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rake922 View Post
    So why do cappers keep putting money in Bodog?
    The same reason cappers play at no-pay books. Lack of due diligence and knowledge of alternatives. RJT's point about aggressive marketing to small time players who just play there only is spot on too.

    As for professional cappers, you can find a better line on a game there from time to time (granted with low limits). This is particularly possible when someone just starts up and wants to play the dog and/or under, and is also possible if you are looking to bet the opposite way that the system has you programmed to bet afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigD View Post
    The only reason bodog should have been a A book brfore the end of netteller was because they were solid with deposits and payouts. As a player they have nothing to offer at this point.

    • Can’t live up to there own payout deadline
    • Hard to fund no ***************
    • Late lines
    • Duel lines

    Not an A book there are much better options out there. I am on day 14 of cashing out my account with them and have no tracking number and doubt I will see anything tomorrow

    Bingo. And low limits as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBollocks View Post
    By your standards, you'd be filling up the entire screen with plus signs if you played at one of the professional industy-leading books...
    You make the assumption I don't play at all the books.

    I feel a great deal of loyalty to bodog because they did the right thing on 3 different incidences with me for largish sums of money.

    They are one of the professional industry-leading books, even though they don't cater to professionals.

    Maybe it is just about priorities. Some on here are mostly concerned with no pay issues and others with slow pay.

    Can you name a non A book that has a higher chance of paying up than bodog?

    On a side note, is it possible the US government is giving bodog a much harder time than the other less visible books?

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    Quote Originally Posted by operaman View Post
    On a side note, is it possible the US government is giving bodog a much harder time than the other less visible books?
    I feel thats probably a fair assessment considering his name always seems to be in the limelight.

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