[thespeculator]

most of the world's wealth in in the united states, add up japan , china and germany together and the u.s is still wealthier, so the u.s matters and matters alot, that is why all of the euro books want in on the american market

all take 5dimes and greek over any book in euroland

[durito]

Bwin has over 20 million customers (counting all platforms, they have the Ongame poker network I think), now that the Party Group will merge with BWIN then they are definitely the biggest.

During the World Cup they averaged €1.1M every day from 900.000 active customers at the time.

http://b.informed.bwin.com/InvestorR...final.aspx?p=1

1,100,000/900,000 = $1.22 bet per player. That makes sense, seeing as the limits at bwin are around $2.

For comparison pinny had 100k max on most world cup spreads.

[cala56]

It depend the size of you monitor.

[wrongturn]

sportsbook.com probably has the largest customer base because its search word, that is why it does not care much about sbr rating.

[username474]

Hard to define with Betfair because its turnover with them, hard to pin down exact amounts in bets taken etc

In 2009 Ladbrokes took £15 Billion in stakes and employed 15000 people

In 2008 William Hill took £16 Billion in stakes and employed 16000 people

Ladbrokes are bigger due to profit and more shops etc

That is some serious money and puts in to perspective the size of the likes of Pinnacle, doubt the whole offshore market takes anywhere near £31 Billion ($48 Billion) in stakes in a single year as the two above combined did and i know for a fact they dont employ those sort of numbers.

Another nominee for dumbest post of the year, congrats.

Pinnacle takes 45+ billion in action per year from <20k coustmers alone. It is only a guess but I would say they have a few more then 20k coustmers. I am not certain that pinnacle is the biggest book in terms of volume or profit margin but with the highest limits of any book and the fact that they do not piss themselves over the thought of a 20k bet, I would be shocked if they did not take over a 100 billion in action per year.

[gman2114]

that take US customers? Please stay on topic.

[houdini]

biggest sportsbook is jazz casino

[barcelonafc]

betfair is the biggest for me by a country mile

[Monte]

What an awkward thread (not by the OP, but what morons like betpartners turned it into...).
And ppl still undererstimate Pinny, iam not sure why. Don't you think the word did spread by now, how good of a book they are for soccer as well?

Fukk all these Euro books that kick out everyone with a clue who bets more than 300 bucks, they never deserved to be called a sportsbook.
So may as well scratch them off the list, it is an insult to books like the Greek.

[tachi]

In 2009 Ladbrokes took £15 Billion in stakes and employed 15000 people

In 2008 William Hill took £16 Billion in stakes and employed 16000 people

both companies opened a betting site (and shops I think) in Italy.
both went bankrupt.

never trust the official numbers,presented by companies.
everything is a lie.
there is no control.

[Metalspined]

most of the world's wealth in in the united states, add up japan , china and germany together and the u.s is still wealthier, so the u.s matters and matters alot, that is why all of the euro books want in on the american market all take 5dimes and greek over any book in euroland

That is a truth with modifications...yes...there are a lot of money in the US market, but the average US citizen has less purchasing power than in many European and Middle Eastern countries...and if you look at the EU Market vs the US Market with GDP (purchasing power parity) the EU market is bigger. I don't deny that the US market is a cash cow for bookies though, but when you count the insane soccer bets coming in from Asia to bookies accepting those, and the current popularity of gambling in EU, the US market might not be that important...

[TRone]

I wonder if Pinnacle has as many customers as those bigger European books that advertise on the soccer jerseys.

[gangeriver]

there are numbers of threads ''which is the biggest sportsbook?'' ''which is the largest....book etc...''

What do biggest or largest mean? What is the point? paid tax? numbers of customers? yearly profit size ? numbers of worker? capital size?

Also does it matter? Bookmaer or BF or Greek? will you buy it? nonsense thread

[Bill Dozer]

Sportsbook.com is the biggest. This doesn't stop them from stealing form players from time to time. Bodog, Bookmaker, BetUs are in the top 5 in terms of size. 5dimes is probably getting close especially if your measuring by amount of bet tickets. Depending on what metric your using the order changes.

[Bobby D]

Volume wise I'd say Pinnacle even without the US market

Pinnacles entire businees model is based on having LARGE volume at discount prices.

[Bobby D]

Pinnacle would destroy them all if going by volume

You could never survive dealing 8 cent lines and reduced vig day after day and year after year without insane volume

[Hareeba!]

there are numbers of threads ''which is the biggest sportsbook?'' ''which is the largest....book etc...''

What do biggest or largest mean? What is the point? paid tax? numbers of customers? yearly profit size ? numbers of worker? capital size?

Also does it matter? Bookmaer or BF or Greek? will you buy it? nonsense thread

my thoughts precisely

WTF CARES ?

[mikeanite]

this is about sportsbook that excepts US customers. we're going off topic?

[laconic]

I have a hard time with the idea that jazette got sportsbook back (with no strings) for a nominal $1 after nearly breaking sportingbet's back on the sale and earn out costs. The earn out had to be renegociated at one point. There must be some clause that sportingbet gets some benefit from the forced sale should the US market open up legally. They are still paying until 2012 the US dept. of justice (blackmail) of $33m. That was one costly purchase. Awful book but credit to them for surviving through it all.

[roninchow]

I think that moves more money in the world is Betfair.

Bwin bought Ongame network and Party Poker and I think also it is very powerful, but limited to the winners.

[robertg]

european books blow!