[Justin7]

It's not OK in most circumstances but if the money was obtained using prohibited wagers, then I can't expect them to pay. Ignorance is not a defense. The rules against corelated parlays are clearly posted under terms and conditions. If the player doesn't take the time to read and understand them I have no sympathy. Especially when thousands of dollars are involved, you should know the rules and abide by them.

Eagle,

A player wants to bet Dallas Cowboys -7 parlayed with Over 49 on Monday night. Would that bet violate Wagerweb's rules?

[trixtrix]

It appears that TrixTrix is an old pro at circumventing the rules. This isn't the first time that he/she was caught making illegal wagers using correlated parlays. Back in November 2007, Hollywood sportsbook ( sportsbook.com) confiscated $3800 from his/her account for the very same reason. I wonder how many other sportsbooks were scammed using this method and didn't realize it till it was too late. Old habits are hard to break it appears. But TrixTrix isn't at fault. NO. All of the sportsbooks involved are wrong. Most people go an entire lifetime without having winnings confiscated. But here, it has happened at least twice to the same person. Hmmmm.

lol nice shill, you just broke your cover, how would you know about hollywood sportsbook confiscation? you being apparently a small time bettor and million-dollar business owner from PA? and more importantly, why would you care.

mods, can we give this guy a shill badge so he stop pretending to be something he's not

while we're at it, let's go down the list of books who DID NOT STEAL from me and paid every cent: VIP, william hill, bet 365, pinnacle, bookmaker/cris, 5 dimes, betwwts, bodog, sia, betus, betonline, greek, betjamaica, dsi, heritage, youwager, betpop, skybook, matchbook, pinnacle, justbet, las palmas, sportbet, beteagle, mansion, eurobet, canbet, wsex, bet phoenix..etc (i'm sure there at least dozen other books i forgot to mention)

you notice anything different in regards to those books vs your book (wagerweb) and sportsbook.com, oh yea they're all rated higher than D- and not a f-cking thief lol

[Eagle1958]

Eagle,

A player wants to bet Dallas Cowboys -7 parlayed with Over 49 on Monday night. Would that bet violate Wagerweb's rules?

No, I have done it and been paid. I don't know the particulars of the wagers involved so I can't begin to guess the problem. But there must have been one or why would they pay some people and not others. It may be wagers involving 1st half/2nd half wagers. I don't know so I can't say. But if it has happened at 2 totally separate sportsbooks, I would tend to believe the player is at fault. You know the saying "if it looks like a skunk and smells like a skunk, then....."

[trixtrix]

what's more funny about this is eagle is desperately running out of ideas and spinning himself into old history now:

he has no support of the forum,
got nowhere w/ name calling nonsense,
can't pull the cheater card,
can't answer my questions,
can't answer questions posted on this thread by other users,
got outed as a shill..

now only thing to do is bring in hollywood lol, yea sportsbook.com took much more than 3.7k from me you dumb shill, and this is going to make you look worse going down that path.. sportsbook.com stole a lot more from alot more forum members than me.. congrats on totally ruining your company's image by comparing yourself side by side w/ sportsbook.com

[trixtrix]

No, I have done it and been paid. I don't know the particulars of the wagers involved so I can't begin to guess the problem. But there must have been one or why would they pay some people and not others. It may be wagers involving 1st half/2nd half wagers. I don't know so I can't say. But if it has happened at 2 totally separate sportsbooks, I would tend to believe the player is at fault. You know the saying "if it looks like a skunk and smells like a skunk, then....."

wow, so in your own words, sportsbook.com is in the right for confiscating 6 figures from the players for the parlays retroactively, and that's the reason/excuse you're using to justify your current thievery... do i sum up your position just about right?

[Eagle1958]

lol nice shill, you just broke your cover, how would you know about hollywood sportsbook confiscation? you being apparently a small time bettor and million-dollar business owner from PA? and more importantly, why would you care.

mods, can we give this guy a shill badge so he stop pretending to be something he's not

while we're at it, let's go down the list of books who DID NOT STEAL from me and paid every cent: VIP, william hill, bet 365, pinnacle, bookmaker/cris, 5 dimes, betwwts, bodog, sia, betus, betonline, greek, betjamaica, dsi, heritage, youwager, betpop, skybook, matchbook, pinnacle, justbet, las palmas, sportbet, beteagle, mansion, eurobet, canbet, wsex, bet phoenix..etc (i'm sure there at least dozen other books i forgot to mention)

you notice anything different in regards to those books vs your book (wagerweb) and sportsbook.com, oh yea they're all rated higher than D- and not a f-cking thief lol

It was very easy to find out just by reading your own posts going back to the year 2006. The one in which I found out about Hollywood was dated \r10-11-2007. So you can stop calling me a shill. I welcome someone checking my IP address. I am only interested in fairplay. And why do you need more than a dozen sportsbooks if something funny wasn't going on? Whatever happened to loyalty?

[trixtrix]

wtf, the same loyalty you showed by dissing bookmaker then saying you have an account in the same thread?

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...-withdraw.html

i need to a ton of books b/c not every book have different odds available for different bets you wagerweb shill, i see you're really trying hard to find some dirt on me. see unlike you who bet 50$ a pop some bettors have larger bet sizes (but don't worry, your manhood and million dollar business will make up the difference lol), but i don't expect you to understand that.

me having over a dozen books means wagerweb and hollywood thefts are justified? thats a new one

[Justin7]

No, I have done it and been paid.

You broke their rules. There is a slight correlation there. Wager Web *chose* not to enforce it on you.

Selective enforcement is a no-no. It's a bigger no-no when you have the means (software) to say allow exactly what you want.

Wagerweb's policy of selective enforcement means it can offer correlated parlays to squares that don't even know what they are doing. At the same time, they can mug any professional player's account.

The obvious solution is for Wagerweb to set its CP ratio at whatever it wants to tolerate. This is how EVERY A-RATED BOOK operates. And if you do bet CPs at good books, they pay you and either close your account, or lower your limits. But selective mugging is just an irrational outburst. I don't know if it is from WW's anger or if there is a financial need, but they did it regardless of the reason.

[Eagle1958]

what's more funny about this is eagle is desperately running out of ideas and spinning himself into old history now:

he has no support of the forum,
got nowhere w/ name calling nonsense,
can't pull the cheater card,
can't answer my questions,
can't answer questions posted on this thread by other users,
got outed as a shill..

now only thing to do is bring in hollywood lol, yea sportsbook.com took much more than 3.7k from me you dumb shill, and this is going to make you look worse going down that path.. sportsbook.com stole a lot more from alot more forum members than me.. congrats on totally ruining your company's image by comparing yourself side by side w/ sportsbook.com

You're the one that was caught cheating at 2 different sportsbooks, not me. Two confiscations, 2 different sportsbooks, same reason. Doesn't take a genius.

[Eagle1958]

You broke their rules. There is a slight correlation there. Wager Web *chose* not to enforce it on you.

Selective enforcement is a no-no. It's a bigger no-no when you have the means (software) to say allow exactly what you want.

Wagerweb's policy of selective enforcement means it can offer correlated parlays to squares that don't even know what they are doing. At the same time, they can mug any professional player's account.

The obvious solution is for Wagerweb to set its CP ratio at whatever it wants to tolerate. This is how EVERY A-RATED BOOK operates. And if you do bet CPs at good books, they pay you and either close your account, or lower your limits. But selective mugging is just an irrational outburst. I don't know if it is from WW's anger or if there is a financial need, but they did it regardless of the reason.

I have only expressed my opinions and been called every name in the book. You, Justin, have some authority here at SBR. So once and for all would you please check my background , IP address, whatever and let Know-it-all know that I am not a shill and have no affiliation with wagerweb other than betting there.

[trixtrix]

You're the one that was caught cheating at 2 different sportsbooks, not me. Two confiscations, 2 different sportsbooks, same reason. Doesn't take a genius.

is this the best you can do? omg two books who happened to be D- rated and known total thieves stolen from me, that MUST MEAN i'm guilty of something (of what you don't even know, b/c apparently you're not even involved) but i must be guilty

lol shill, you're trying so hard your top is about to spin

i have no problem admitting that hollywood and wagerweb stolen from me, so what else you got?

[trixtrix]

I have only expressed my opinions and been called every name in the book. You, Justin, have some authority here at SBR. So once and for all would you please check my background , IP address, whatever and let Know-it-all know that I am not a shill and have no affiliation with wagerweb other than betting there.

yea i'm sure you're just a concerned citizen expressing his "opinion" but fighting alone like a maddog in a losing fight for wagerweb on this thread lol

[Justin7]

I have only expressed my opinions and been called every name in the book. You, Justin, have some authority here at SBR. So once and for all would you please check my background , IP address, whatever and let Know-it-all know that I am not a shill and have no affiliation with wagerweb other than betting there.

Your actions are not consistent with a disinterested player. Your defense of CP theft is atypical. IP addresses are not always a good measure of location, especially for someone knowledgeable in sportsbook operations and rules.

I don't know you or your affiliations with certainty, but I welcome your discussion (and defense) of Wagerweb. Anything that makes people think about this type of dispute is good.

[Eagle1958]

is this the best you can do? omg two books who happened to be D- rated and known total thieves stolen from me, that MUST MEAN i'm guilty of something (of what you don't even know, b/c apparently you're not even involved) but i must be guilty

lol shill, you're trying so hard your top is about to spin

i have no problem admitting that hollywood and wagerweb stolen from me, so what else you got?

It's not stealing if you are only taking back what was stolen from you.

[Eagle1958]

Your actions are not consistent with a disinterested player. Your defense of CP theft is atypical. IP addresses are not always a good measure of location, especially for someone knowledgeable in sportsbook operations and rules.

I don't know you or your affiliations with certainty, but I welcome your discussion (and defense) of Wagerweb. Anything that makes people think about this type of dispute is good.

I understand and thank you for your efforts

[trixtrix]

It's not stealing if you are only taking back what was stolen from you.

wait but two posts back you claimed that you don't even know what i was betting lol, but obv i'm "stealing" from wagerweb and hollywood, just like a bunch of other players who got their accts cleared out by sportsbook.com 'stole' from them, correct?

[Eagle1958]

yea i'm sure you're just a concerned citizen expressing his "opinion" but fighting alone like a maddog in a losing fight for wagerweb on this thread lol

I may be losing but at least I am getting people to think that circumventing the rules by either side, sportbook or client, is wrong.

[trixtrix]

nobody thinks that but YOU alone, shill, that's why you kept changing the topic when the questions got too tough for you to answer, except you're not fooling anyone

[Eagle1958]

wait but two posts back you claimed that you don't even know what i was betting lol, but obv i'm "stealing" from wagerweb and hollywood, just like a bunch of other players who got their accts cleared out by sportsbook.com 'stole' from them, correct?

No, I'm just saying that sportbooks that randomly steal without reason don't stay in business long. So i doubt that your $11k will keep them afloat if they are in trouble. So there must be a reason. But the fact that it happened to the same person at two different books makes one wonder.

[trixtrix]

makes one wonder what? if two convicted swindlers takes money out of your acct, that makes YOU a criminal? well i guess using wagerweb's illogic, it prolly does

[Thremp]

Eagle,

Why do you keep ignoring my questions?

[Sarah]

on the plus side, you've been here for 4 months and have posted on the following threads on wagerweb:




no but you're not a shill, even i'm not that obessessed w/ wagerweb and they took 11k from me lol! what a loser

guys what does shill stands for is that .. . is it like . " Mi LOVE YOU LONG TIME " ...

[Sarah]

Well Trix, you admitted that you violated their rules by playing correlated parlays but that "nobody told you". I believe it is your responsiblity to know the rules and play by them especially when the rules are clearly posted under " terms and conditions". Violating clearly posted rules makes you a cheater and to be expecting to be paid for gains obtained by violating these rules is ludicrous. It's like robbing a bank and saying OK, I know what I did was against the rules but let me keep the money and I won't do it again. And what is your obsession with calling me a shill. I am asking SBR to provide you with my IP location. I have never been within 3000 miles of Costa Rica. I am only defending a company that has always treated me fairly and paid me in a timely fashion. To do otherwise would be like being a party to this defamation and slander that you are committing.

she doesnt even know the meaning of the words she place here in this forum , she just google the word shill and saw it sounded cool and thinking no one else will see,the over use of the word here , this redundancy results to ignorance . what is the next word of the day for you in your google words .....