1. #106
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    So far so Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetOnline View Post
    Guys

    There's little I can say to re-assure you that this isn't BOS in any way, shape or form... but it isn't.

    It's a NEW BEtOnline. There has been a change in shareholders and a new executive team put in, including myself as CMO, one of the world's TOP linesguys who's not afraid of taking almost ANYONE's action, a super solid CTO who was one of the first in the online sportsbook business and a top notch CFO who can make sense out the chaos we've bought into/inherited/uncovered.

    And we have Clive as CEO, the ONE GUY who stood up for BOS' players while all the shit came down. The one guy who stayed and worked and fought to get players paid. That BoS turned into a Ball of Shit is true--Clive was the one guy who stayed to sort it out. Ask Calvin. Ask Mickey. Ask Luke. HE didn't take your money then--and we're not doing it now. We've got a much longer term view.

    Hence we HAVE removed the reduced limits on EVERYBODY in the book. The nonsense of "make up figures" and "wait screens" ALL GONE. 100%. And we're launching dime lines for MLB.

    I've been working with these guys for 6 months now. I've personally met the owners and know and trust them. We all share the same vision--offer a book with great prices and superior service and, over time, we'll have a decent margin and make some cash. Bill and Shannon have met all of us, and we're in the process of getting with all of the key forums and other sports sites.

    We WILL disagree on points, as we are now disputing a futures call with a player. That happens in this business, especially when you have smart guys on both ends. Will we occasionally disappoint? Count on it--shit happens outside of our control and none of of us are happy. But we'll sort it

    But will we consistently and persistently work to be a new, exciting, fun, viable option for sports bettors? That you can bet on.

    I signed on 'cause these guys aren't amateurs who got lucky, they're NOT the guys from the streets who came online; they are seasoned experienced online industry vets from around the world who came together to service the most exciting sports betting market in the world. That's why I signed up and moved my family over and hung onto the rollercoaster of change the past few months.

    You ALWAYS have a choice. With us you have one more. Prefer to take your cash out and sit on the sidelines for now and see how we do? No worries, come on back anytime, your choice. Want to play with us and work with us to make the best book on the planet? You're input is always welcome, we will listen. We won't always be able to act on everything--the exec team is very focused on the US hence no ewallets... we're chasing mainly square action so no book-to-book...YET. But these elements of the offering will evolve.

    And when you request your payout, we will always pay.

    Alex
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  3. #108
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    Bump for lambchopno

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    Thats where this guy is being hiding for so long. Well, go ahead guys, deposit there! you will learn.

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    As a long time betonline customer I can attest that betonline is a place to stay away from. they may pay you for a while but eventually they will screw you over. by the way has there ever been a bigger screw job than Aces Gold.

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    how could they be so dumb to employ that guy. agreed, withdraw your money right now!

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    Wow stories like this just make the case for regulated sportsbooking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer View Post
    BetOnSports was the biggest stiff job the industry has seen. Before it's days a as public company it stiffed winning players. It treated players poorly, stalling them and harrassing sharps. When the company wanted to go public years after it was at it's worst it reached out to the most recently stiffed players and compensated them. It made it up to a C- book I believe. But a lot of the players who were stiffed in the early days of internet wagering by BOS were long gone...many had a bad taste in their mouths and didn't come back to gaming. When BOS went public they brought in people on the business side, people that weren't necesarily in gaming. Clive was one of those people. SBR is aware of the company structure. We spent time reviewing the book in Panama after the previous mgrs were arrested in the US. The B+ rating is appropriate. A lot of the changes made in company direction are for the better. We are watching to see how they execute these plans this year.

    I stayed away becasue of SBR, thanks for saving me money and headaches


    COO. Operations and Marketing Director at BetonSports PLC
    So this guys the douche responsible for sending out more junk mail in the late 90's than AOL? Okay maybe not more but they were the AOL of the gambling industry. Can we expect the same from BOL?

    Hey marketing guy, the cards in your poker room have two letters on the back, BO..best you could come up with?

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    too much negative on this book.id stay away

  10. #115
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    How quickly the tide will turn on a book.

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    have you ever heard of Madoff, Clive must have got paid, so my advise is to stay the **** away the new betonline my ass and you guys complain about politics on here give me a break
    Last edited by marcojuiceman; 08-15-11 at 11:02 PM.

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    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...nline-com.html

    Complete disaster that I could be so stupid to deposit with these fools. Total scam book.

    I know I'm a new poster at SBR, but am a reg on 2P2. I'll keep the thread above updated with any further information.

  13. #118
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    I've had good luck with BetOnline.

    Had success with them last year. Didn't get stiffed. Their account support was pretty decent. The landscape has really changed recently, so this is one of the better, more trustworthy books left.

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    If all u got on a book that they take 3 weeks to pay for there free payout then i don't know what to say guys, your $ gets there, if u need if faster u can get it faster but u have to pay. Other than that they have great lines, great bonuses, poker, good incentives, etc. If u can't wait don't play there but don't hate because of something that they say with the payout anyway its upto 3 weeks, and it gets there. No way people should say they are mediocre because of 1 bad thing out of how many, all im saying. Great book in my eyes.

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    I'd wait and see on these guys

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    oh such a confusing long converstaion comment but at least i got something useful from the forum , sbobet is one of my favorite site for betting and ibcbet as wll.. thats great !!!

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    Hey guys, I'm from the online poker world, and BetOnline is HEAVILY marketing itself to USA poker players after the events of Black Friday. Should I not touch this book with a 10 foot poker pole?? I was thinking of depositing $100, and playing poker. I don't want any cash bonuses or freeplays or anything, so I'd ask for them to remove those first. Think they'll screw over a poker player who never bets sports?

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    I haven't had any complaints about BOL. I think alot of people that are complaining about them are losing and trying to get more free bonuses and free plays from them.

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    Bump for all the guys with complaints of BOL since this thread.

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    CS has gone downhill and they are a bit on the slow side of paying but 99% of the fears above have been unwarranted

    So much money to be made at these fringe books

  21. #126
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    Two and half years later,opinions now?

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    Not a big fan of "I told you so" posts, but you were right then as now. BOL is a horrible book.

  23. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Not a big fan of "I told you so" posts, but you were right then as now. BOL is a horrible book.
    More of a reminder.Bumped this up because of Durito posting at another spot that they're holding him up for docs.Been collecting for 2 years and now they need docs?These guys that spend like they're printing it on advertising are always the ones to watch because they can't sell their wares on reputation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBENZ View Post
    More of a reminder.Bumped this up because of Durito posting at another spot that they're holding him up for docs.Been collecting for 2 years and now they need docs?These guys that spend like they're printing it on advertising are always the ones to watch because they can't sell their wares on reputation.
    So he collected for two years, while you warned against them, and now they want some docs and you were right that whole time?

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