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    Folks i caught pinnacle cheating 1500 out me on error line

    OMG FINALLY I CAUGHT PINNACLE outta all booooks sooo saturday,

    i place a bet on Miami Florida vs Bethune Cookman 2nd half bet total YES// not a live bet which makes this even more juicy// a straight 2nd half bet on over and i ended up mistaking the spread of +24 which i wasnt even paying attention cuz it was already midafternoon half drunk already
    then after game was over i was like why is my bet a Loss then i check wait i took a freaking +24 spread on cookman i was like huh? because all the other site had +15.5 on bethune cookman...... i mean +24 doesnt even exist on any sportbooook in the planet but pinny which obviously was an error bcuz so i sent email to pinacle to void the bs and i got a response today hilarious

    Dear Client,
    Thank you for waiting.

    We requested the relevant team to review your concern. As per them, the bet stands.
    If you have other concerns, feel free to let us know.

    Best regards,
    Customer Service Departmentwww.pinnacle.com

    yall see that LOL they said "as per them" LMFAOOOOOOOO i cant make this up!!! who is them?? they really trynna push the blame on line setter now
    god dam cheaters!!!!!!!!! SBR FAM DID I GET CHEATED OR WAT AHHAHAHH


    lets read pinnacle rules

    17. Pinnacle reserves the right to void any bet at any time if it deems the bet to have been made in a fraudulent manner.

    definitely fraud LINE cheaters!!

    19.If there is an obvious error in the odds or limit of a market, bets on that market may be void. If for any reason a bet is accepted after a fixture has begun (other than clearly indicated Live In-Play betting) bets will have action unless a material advantage has been gained. Pinnacle reserves the right to void the bet if it determines that an advantage has been gained.

    UMM yes 10 extra pooint on the spread for me is definitely material advantage


    HAPPY LABOR DAY MY BROTHERS AT SBR!!! HOPE I ENTERTAIN YALL WITH MY 1500 LOLZZZ

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    update from trashcle


    Thank you for your patience on this matter.

    As per our relevant team's final decision, we had a spread of +24 and a Total of 28. These NCAA Added games often have lines that have varying opinions.

    In the future, if you want Pinnacle to consider cancelling a wager, please contact Pinnacle prior to the event taking place, therefore, bet stands.

    We appreciate your understanding.

    Should you need any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.


    Best regards,
    Customer Service Department
    www.pinnacle.com

    ok so apparently there was +24 and 28 total yea soo i was wrong byeee next time they should say they had a +50 spread and 99 total too What a JOKE
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    Your post is disorganised and chaotic.

    If you want SBR and/or readers here to be sympathetic you need to repost in an organised and concise fashion.

    For example, list the match, the start time in UTC, the line and odds you took, the amount wagered, the approximate market line(s) and odds at the time you placed your wager, the actions you took post placing and the bookmaker's response etc. Do this in a simple and organised way.

    Your post is littered with irrelevancies and superfluous information. You reduce your chances of success by taking this chaotic approach.

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    You bet a team +24, they lost by 25, and now you want a refund because you were too drunk to verify what you were betting? No cheating by pinnacle.

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    Not a problem if they paid out Miami 2H backers. We may never know?

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    Pinnacle will absolutely intentionally hang lines 4,5,6 points off what every other book has up. They will juice the fuk out of the "advantageous" line. Thousands of punters blindly bet the high juice...which at the moment of betting, it looks fantastic. Pinnacle gets volume on their lines, and juicing lines and numbers is up to the book, no authority can force them to display or book any line or juice.

    That said, they will pay out many of the high juice lines they post , but it's the ones that come in on the other side at big +money that keeps them utilizing this strategy at game time and throughout the game. They trap the panicked punter trying to get down live or half time number.
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    u work at pinny? lmfao i want a refund because the line is wrong there was no +24 spread ok the max we can see is +15.5

    like i said I got a FULL 10 POINT extra on the spread 1 td and 1 fg and thats right line????

    why dont TRASHCLE says they had a +40 2nd half spread and 99 total then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsBettor74 View Post
    Your post is disorganised and chaotic.

    If you want SBR and/or readers here to be sympathetic you need to repost in an organised and concise fashion.

    For example, list the match, the start time in UTC, the line and odds you took, the amount wagered, the approximate market line(s) and odds at the time you placed your wager, the actions you took post placing and the bookmaker's response etc. Do this in a simple and organised way.

    Your post is littered with irrelevancies and superfluous information. You reduce your chances of success by taking this chaotic approach.

    Kind Regards.
    uh i placed my betting in the IMGUR u cant see? lmfaoo i dont need sympathy i just telling TRASHCLE cheat worse than anybook i know, make soome bss story how its a 24 spread when it never existed i mean whats wrong saying we had an error, bet void its that hard??? maybe fix your crappy line odds generator TRASHCLE

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    Yes, this is official Pinnacle employee forum, we all work for Pinny here, np!

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    i don't think you will win this. you still verified the bet when it got placed regardless if you meant it or not.

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    doesnt matter, its an ERROR line! how was i suppose to cancel this bet?? i cant hedge at any sportbook in the planet no one had +24 on cookman.... i mean what am i suppose to doo taking a +10 pooint higher on a 2ND HALF spread you guy tell me? what a JOKE seriously trashcle is so broke they cant void 1500 bet now is this why they toook the whole line off everywhere so they can make bs line up so u can take and say sorrrrrrry the Line was correct we win U lose

    only pinnacle allow to win money and they always right they are perfect GREATEST BOOK EVER ALL LINE ARE CORECT NO VOID

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    So, to get this straight, you placed a drunk bet on the dog +24 (while the spread should've been 15.5) and you want your bet to be void as it was "iNcoRrEcT lINe"?

    You knew that line was off and you tried to freeroll them. It didn't go as planned, an expensive mistake on your end, Karen.

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    There is one IMPORTANT thing to consider here. If the bet won.would he have gotten paid? Most likely NO.
    There has always been ONE Golden Rule in gambling of any kind. "If you cannot win, you cannot lose".

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    Keep a eye on Pinnacle lines on Saturday live and 2nd halfs and you will see the lines are way off. Pinnacle live off juice.
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    Pinnacle cheating?

    For 1.5k?

    🙄🙄🙄 ok pal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfie White View Post
    So, to get this straight, you placed a drunk bet on the dog +24 (while the spread should've been 15.5) and you want your bet to be void as it was "iNcoRrEcT lINe"?

    You knew that line was off and you tried to freeroll them. It didn't go as planned, an expensive mistake on your end, Karen.
    Alfie, what's this all about?

    Are we supposed to point out the book's mistakes to them?

    Isn't the 3% to 5% vig enough?

    Aren't books responsible for their lines?

    I dunno..........................

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    You took a shot at a bad line and they free rolled you. You got what you deserved here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfie White View Post
    So, to get this straight, you placed a drunk bet on the dog +24 (while the spread should've been 15.5) and you want your bet to be void as it was "iNcoRrEcT lINe"?

    You knew that line was off and you tried to freeroll them. It didn't go as planned, an expensive mistake on your end, Karen.
    " You knew that line was off " thats really funny how exactly am i suppose to know that was incorrect at the time? since your smart tell me, do u double check very single betting line with other sportsbook every single game?? i dont think so pretty sure you just bet whats given and thats exactly what i did, freeroll wat the heck is that lmfao thats must be for small fries like you do

    this is how i bet
    i see line, click max bet, click click its in!
    straight only no hedge no nothing i see line i bet simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigOrange View Post
    You took a shot at a bad line and they free rolled you. You got what you deserved here.
    man a bad line is +15 spread you caught it at +16, +17, +18,
    +24? that aint noo bad line, THATS CALLED ERROR LINE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn Dick View Post
    There is one IMPORTANT thing to consider here. If the bet won.would he have gotten paid? Most likely NO.
    There has always been ONE Golden Rule in gambling of any kind. "If you cannot win, you cannot lose".
    finally someone has a brain and can figure this out

    If the bet won.would he have gotten paid? Most likely NO.

    i would got an email from pinnyless saying"sorry the line was incorrect, bet void bye"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flatron123 View Post
    i see line, click max bet, click click its in! straight only no hedge no nothing i see line i bet simple
    You bet, you lost - simple.

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    i get what you are saying flatron. you are not going to win this though with the book. you lost a bet. just being honest.

    picture it this way. let's say you only played at pinny. that would be the only line you would know. the game result happened and you would lose. just b/c another site has a diff line doesn't mean the book has to match.

    i bet the pirates +5.5 at dK but then bet the pirates +6.5 at caesars within 30 seconds of each other. pirates lost 8-2. i can't go to DK and said the +5.5 was incorrect. that was their line.

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    This example is a very good reason that most knowledgeable people in the business will never bet into an obvious bad line. You can lose, but you can't win. It is called Freeroll, and not for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbobets View Post
    Not a problem if they paid out Miami 2H backers. We may never know?
    Exactly spot on. Find someone that had their Miami -24 bet canceled and you have a case. I bet a bad line once, 20+ years ago and learned my lesson. Nothing worse than free rolling yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn Dick View Post
    This example is a very good reason that most knowledgeable people in the business will never bet into an obvious bad line. You can lose, but you can't win. It is called Freeroll, and not for you.
    "knowledgeable" what do you mean you small fry, that freeroll what is that roflmao KEKW.

    Learn kids, if you see a bad line, avoid it and don't be like flatron123, also don't drink and bet, you will lose.

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    The OP reminds me of RAIDER1223 from the MyBookie +EV slots thread.

    Both are weirdly and inappropriately aggressive. Both take their eyes off the prize (getting paid / making money) at the drop of a hat. Both prioritise attacking other posters on an anonymous, public forum over what should be their one and only objective - to get paid.

    At the time of the RAIDER thread, I was immediately suspicious of RAIDER's bizarre and almost self-destructive aggression towards other posters. As it turned out, that suspicion was entirely well-founded: RAIDER was called out for finding an exploit in a slot and then pummelling it (whilst all the while denying that he was aware of the exploit despite overwhelming evidence that he knew exactly what he was doing).

    The OP here gives me identical vibes to RAIDER. The OP should learn to bite his tongue and prioritise the only thing that matters - getting paid. The fact that the OP is unable to make this rather obvious prioritisation is rather telling and (perhaps) worthy of our sympathy.

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    OP might be a smartass but all bad lines should be void.

    Otherwise books could just go fishing all day and decide when to pay

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    you bet a line and it lost. in fact you got an even better line than 99% of the other books and lost. it is what it is. not attacking you. just being honest again.

    they could have voided the bet but chose not to. it is their book and they run how they run. if they paid those who won with miami on the bad line they definitely see no problem. now you know not to bet there when the line looks abnormal or at least check in before placing the bet. then at least you have the conversation saved as proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pologq View Post
    you bet a line and it lost. in fact you got an even better line than 99% of the other books and lost. it is what it is. not attacking you. just being honest again.

    they could have voided the bet but chose not to. it is their book and they run how they run. if they paid those who won with miami on the bad line they definitely see no problem. now you know not to bet there when the line looks abnormal or at least check in before placing the bet. then at least you have the conversation saved as proof.
    This post is more nonsense. If he won he would not have got paid. That is the facts here. If you can't win you can't lose. Easy for the book to wait for the result and then rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigOrange View Post
    You took a shot at a bad line and they free rolled you. You got what you deserved here.
    ^^^ It appears this is what the OP thinks is happening.

    But I do not think so.




    To make the complaint more concise OP says;

    He saw 24 and assumed it was the 2H total and thought that was what he had bet.

    It turned out to a +24 bet on the team that lost by 25.

    OP says that although he says he was mistaken, Pinnacle tricked him as he claims that+24 number was higher than the posted total Pinny had at the time. And his logic is that if the side handicap was higher then the total, it must be a bad line.



    In response Pinnacle say their total was set at 28.5 at the moment the OP bet
    Bethune Cookman +24. So was not lower than the side as OP is saying.

    Further they say that there was no error in either market line. And winners on the -24 side and 28 total have all been paid.


    SBR have explained to the OP that he is asking Pinny to refund a losing handicap that he claims was set 3 points too high, to his advantage, after the result is known.

    And it's been explained that no bookmaker will listen to someone who says they took a shot on a bad line, to their advantage, and then wants it refunded after it loses...

    But that is not even really relevant here, as it was not a bad line anyway.


    Honestly not sure what the OP is really thinking here. Makes no sense he is still carrying on after both Pinnacle and SBR have explained this to him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    ^^^ It appears this is what the OP thinks is happening.

    But I do not think so.




    To make the complaint more concise OP says;

    He saw 24 and assumed it was the 2H total and thought that was what he had bet.

    It turned out to a +24 bet on the team that lost by 25.

    OP says that although he says he was mistaken, Pinnacle tricked him as he claims that+24 number was higher than the posted total Pinny had at the time. And his logic is that if the side handicap was higher then the total, it must be a bad line.



    In response Pinnacle say their total was set at 28.5 at the moment the OP bet
    Bethune Cookman +24. So was not lower than the side as OP is saying.

    Further they say that there was no error in either market line. And winners on the -24 side and 28 total have all been paid.


    SBR have explained to the OP that he is asking Pinny to refund a losing handicap that he claims was set 3 points too high, to his advantage, after the result is known.

    And it's been explained that no bookmaker will listen to someone who says they took a shot on a bad line, to their advantage, and then wants it refunded after it loses...

    But that is not even really relevant here, as it was not a bad line anyway.


    Honestly not sure what the OP is really thinking here. Makes no sense he is still carrying on after both Pinnacle and SBR have explained this to him.



    Optional needs a raise.

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    You got free rolled brother ,it happens. Nobody bet it at -24....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    ^^^ It appears this is what the OP thinks is happening.


    But I do not think so.




    To make the complaint more concise OP says;

    He saw 24 and assumed it was the 2H total and thought that was what he had bet.

    It turned out to a +24 bet on the team that lost by 25.

    OP says that although he says he was mistaken, Pinnacle tricked him as he claims that+24 number was higher than the posted total Pinny had at the time. And his logic is that if the side handicap was higher then the total, it must be a bad line.



    In response Pinnacle say their total was set at 28.5 at the moment the OP bet
    Bethune Cookman +24. So was not lower than the side as OP is saying.

    Further they say that there was no error in either market line. And winners on the -24 side and 28 total have all been paid.


    SBR have explained to the OP that he is asking Pinny to refund a losing handicap that he claims was set 3 points too high, to his advantage, after the result is known.

    And it's been explained that no bookmaker will listen to someone who says they took a shot on a bad line, to their advantage, and then wants it refunded after it loses...

    But that is not even really relevant here, as it was not a bad line anyway.


    Honestly not sure what the OP is really thinking here. Makes no sense he is still carrying on after both Pinnacle and SBR have explained this to him.


    Like to see 1 ticket that bet it at -24...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cornmeal View Post
    Like to see 1 ticket that bet it at -24...

    How on earth could that help work anything out in this particular case? What would it prove or disprove? Have a think about it more before answering.

    And I'd like to see you point at any thread on here from the last two decades where Pinnacle have been caught out free rolling anyone?

    Surely if they are straight up criminals as you are suggesting there must be at least ONE time that they got caught out and someone was on that other side and outed them. What do you think?


    But if the OP agrees with you, he has been advised that in the past Pinnacle have offered the option to players who still do not agree after explanation, and are convinced Pinny are scammers, to be paid what they want and close their accounts.

    OP has been informed that SBR could make that suggestion to Pinny on the OPs behalf if he wishes that to happen.
    Last edited by Optional; 09-08-22 at 11:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    How on earth could that help work anything out in this particular case? What would it prove or disprove? Have a think about it more before answering.

    And I'd like to see you point at any thread on here from the last two decades where Pinnacle have been caught out free rolling anyone?

    Surely if they are straight up criminals as you are suggesting there must be at least ONE time that they got caught out and someone was on that other side and outed them. What do you think?


    But if the OP agrees with you, he has been advised that in the past Pinnacle have offered the option to players who still do not agree after explanation, and are convinced Pinny are scammers, to be paid what they want and close their accounts.

    OP has been informed that SBR could make that suggestion to Pinny on the OPs behalf if he wishes that to happen.
    Nothing to get upset about - Pinnacle gave you the generic answer.
    Nobody played it at that number

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    Optional makes a good point, but he follows it up with a completely wrong line explanation. The line was 10 pts off. It HAS to be deemed a bad line.

    And it's been explained that no bookmaker will listen to someone who says they took a shot on a bad line, to their advantage, and then wants it refunded after it loses...

    But that is not even really relevant here, as it was not a bad line anyway.





    u work at pinny? lmfao i want a refund because the line is wrong there was no +24 spread ok the max we can see is +15.5

    like i said I got a FULL 10 POINT extra on the spread 1 td and 1 fg and thats right line????









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