[jjgold]

We’re excited to announce the addition of **** Fast Funds to the Barstool Sportsbook. With **** Fast Funds, you’ll be able to withdraw your winnings in SECONDS, not days. HOW IT WORKS Step 1: Make a successful deposit with a **** debit card to enable **** Fast Funds. Step 2: Play and win on the Barstool Sportsbook app or website. Step 3: Withdraw your winnings using **** and get your cash instantly. **** Fast Funds is currently available in 10 states: AZ, CO, IA, IL, IN, NJ, PA, TN, VA & WV.

[texhooper]

Now this is something that will help the otherwise shitty legal books really separate from offshore.

[KVB]

Fast Funds.

LMAO, theindustry probably thought this up 10 years ago.

They're like "hey, let's slow everything down to a near halt, then get everyone frustrated, then we'll be the saviors with Fast Funds!!!!"



I commend them though, it's the right thing to do.

[texhooper]

Right haha…

But honestly I see this even being something that could draw me to using one of those places, like if you want the “cash in hand” experience of betting in a casino. Which sounds like this is what that is. Not sure if there are fees involved though

[RangeFinder]

Hang up here is how much they are charging. They're going to ding the degen big time.

[retard]

They have had instant withdraws when I signed up with them a year ago. Bet rivers used to have instant withdraws along side barstool but betrivers made the stupid decision to take it away. Draft kings has instant withdraws depending on what tier level you are in their reward system.

[retard]

Barstool and fanduel are the places that allows you to keep the stake in the free bet they give you. Every other place is cheap and don’t allow you to keep the stake money on the free bets they give you for casino or sportsbook.

[Brock Landers]

Now this is something that will help the otherwise shitty legal books really separate from offshore.

BETONLINE pays out in minutes, tops.

Massive #'s too

[jjgold]

The only drawback is tremendous juice that’s a big issue for me

[Otters27]

I'd be about 10k richer if books didn't make me wait weeks to withdrawal

[JacketFan81]

Goldie pushing Barstool Sports in one post and calling everyone squares in another

Lololol

[texhooper]

BETONLINE pays out in minutes, tops.

Massive #'s too

That’s Bitcoin though.

I’m talking about American coins placed right up my butthole

[5mike5]

Never been charged anything for payouts from legal books and $ always in my account the morning after request. That's instant enough

[NoDraMa4YoMaMa]

Their baseball ML odds are awful.

[big joe 1212]

Offshore is the only place to bet for baseball

I haven’t found a dime line US book yet

[d2bets]

Hang up here is how much they are charging. They're going to ding the degen big time.

I've never seen an onshore charge for deposits or withdrawals.

[jjgold]

How are those 40 cent money lines treating you?

I bet 10 cent money lines up to -190

Thank You

[stake1]

[d2bets]

Barstool and fanduel are the places that allows you to keep the stake in the free bet they give you. Every other place is cheap and don’t allow you to keep the stake money on the free bets they give you for casino or sportsbook.

Not anymore. Fanduel shifted from site credit to free bets. With a free bet you never keep the stake.

[big joe 1212]

Not anymore. Fanduel shifted from site credit to free bets. With a free bet you never keep the stake.

I noticed that the other day

Awful

All these books in NY are tightening up now on everything

Back to offshore for most things for me now

[jjgold]

The problem is they’re not making much money most of all they can’t give perks anymore

They’re finding out there’s so many cost just to break even

I noticed that the other day

Awful

All these books in NY are tightening up now on everything

Back to offshore for most things for me now

[Brock Landers]

People thought us based books were the greatest thing since sliced bread....not so much lol

[OldBill]

hey i have so many casinos and o t b to bet legally here in PA walk in put cash in kiosk pick same game parlays exact score winning margin whatever for $5 win hundreds soon as game is over or next day if game was late night


off shores stink and many times i read in other forums people asked for check mailed to them check was NO GOOD

[d2bets]

People thought us based books were the greatest thing since sliced bread....not so much lol

Yes, it's still pretty good for a number of reasons.

[False Start]

Not anymore. Fanduel shifted from site credit to free bets. With a free bet you never keep the stake.

The best was in the "early days of regulation" in New Jersey. I'm talking 2018 and early 2019.
I was the biggest bonus whore out there. Still am.

When NJ first went legal, almost every book allowed you to keep the stake of the free bet. If I remember correctly, DraftKings was the only one who didn't give stake back. Anyway, I remember only one book didn't give you the stake back.

The general public should NOT be confused by the ads on television. There is a HUGE difference between a "risk-free bet" (which isn't risk-free at all) and a deposit match. You always want/hope for a deposit match.

I couldn't believe the amount of misinformation out there (and on here) when Caesars' came out last summer with that huge "$5,000 risk free bet." People actually thought it was risk-free. No. Here's why:

You deposit $5000 into Caesars. You make a bet at the standard -110 odds:
Best case: You win your bet. You have just won $4,545.45. Done.
2nd worse case: You lose the $5000 risk-free bet. They give you a $5000 token which must be played on one game. You win that game at -110 odds. You now have $4,545.45 in your account. Total loss for going 1-1: -$454.55.
Worst case: You go 0-2. Lost $5000.

ALWAYS max out your bonus. If they offer up to $2000 bonus or match, deposit $2000. Don't deposit $300 or something like that. You are throwing away money.

Also, don't play odds worse than -110 or so with your free play. Do the math. If anything, your free play should be even money or a reasonable moneyline underdog which has a chance to hit.

Back to the Caesars example: it's no different if they offered me a $100,000 "risk free bet." Yes, it's a 2nd chance, but you cannot (should not, actually) reverse your free bet (2nd bet) at another book because if you lose at the other book, you would be down $100,000 at that other book, and still down -$9090.91 at Caesars, for a total loss of $109,090.91 altogether.

Depspite JJ telling me that I should "never reverse risk-free plays," I highly advise you IN TODAY's world, where stake is NOT returned, to do it on your INITIAL wager. That's what I do all the time. However, I am more risk-adverse than others. I'm about math and reducing risk.

Here's what I mean:

In 2018-19, when almost every New Jersey book gave you the stake back on your free (2nd play)....I would do this.....
Example: FanDuel has a $1000 risk-free bet offer. I played all $1000 on the first bet with no reversing at -110 odds. If I win, my account now reads $1909 and I cash out +909. Done.
If I lose that first bet at FD, I reverse the 2nd bet at DK for $1000. Going to win one place and lose the other. Total loss for losing my first bet: -$91. So, risking $91 to win $909 was what I did. Loved it. And I always shopped for an extra half-point or full point at the 2nd book, so I have chance to "side" one bet and push the other. Full point, try to middle.
Note: almost all books have in small fine print that a push will result in the loss of the free bet; which I totally think is criminal, but that's another story.

Now, fast forward to today: Books no longer give you the stake back on the free (2nd) bet:
Book XYZ has a free bet of up to $1000. You deposit $1000.
Here is what I do now: I reverse the FIRST bet, rather than the 2nd bet. Again, looking for a half-point or full-point difference now at Book ABC. I HOPE that I win at Book ABC, collecting $909. Cash out there for that profit. I still have a $1000 free bet at Book XYZ. Remember, no reversing because it is stake back only. So, I lose my 2nd bet at Book XYZ. Final total for going 0-2 at Book XYZ= -$91. However, if I win my free bet (2nd bet) at Book XYZ, I now have $909 in that account + the $909 I cashed out from the other book, for a total of +818.
In essence, these days, at worst I am risking $91 to win $818.

That's how I currently do things for MY APPETITE.
Your risk tolerance may be much greater.

[jjgold]

You could get a lot of bonuses a if you family members

All you do is have them open up a bank account they don’t have to put any money in it you get the login credentials and then you put your own money into their account and sign up a books with their Social Security number As long as everything matches with the address and name it shouldn’t have to verify

[d2bets]

The best was in the "early days of regulation" in New Jersey. I'm talking 2018 and early 2019.
I was the biggest bonus whore out there. Still am.

When NJ first went legal, almost every book allowed you to keep the stake of the free bet. If I remember correctly, DraftKings was the only one who didn't give stake back. Anyway, I remember only one book didn't give you the stake back.

The general public should NOT be confused by the ads on television. There is a HUGE difference between a "risk-free bet" (which isn't risk-free at all) and a deposit match. You always want/hope for a deposit match.

I couldn't believe the amount of misinformation out there (and on here) when Caesars' came out last summer with that huge "$5,000 risk free bet." People actually thought it was risk-free. No. Here's why:

You deposit $5000 into Caesars. You make a bet at the standard -110 odds:
Best case: You win your bet. You have just won $4,545.45. Done.
2nd worse case: You lose the $5000 risk-free bet. They give you a $5000 token which must be played on one game. You win that game at -110 odds. You now have $4,545.45 in your account. Total loss for going 1-1: -$454.55.
Worst case: You go 0-2. Lost $5000.

ALWAYS max out your bonus. If they offer up to $2000 bonus or match, deposit $2000. Don't deposit $300 or something like that. You are throwing away money.

Also, don't play odds worse than -110 or so with your free play. Do the math. If anything, your free play should be even money or a reasonable moneyline underdog which has a chance to hit.

Back to the Caesars example: it's no different if they offered me a $100,000 "risk free bet." Yes, it's a 2nd chance, but you cannot (should not, actually) reverse your free bet (2nd bet) at another book because if you lose at the other book, you would be down $100,000 at that other book, and still down -$9090.91 at Caesars, for a total loss of $109,090.91 altogether.

Depspite JJ telling me that I should "never reverse risk-free plays," I highly advise you IN TODAY's world, where stake is NOT returned, to do it on your INITIAL wager. That's what I do all the time. However, I am more risk-adverse than others. I'm about math and reducing risk.

Here's what I mean:

In 2018-19, when almost every New Jersey book gave you the stake back on your free (2nd play)....I would do this.....
Example: FanDuel has a $1000 risk-free bet offer. I played all $1000 on the first bet with no reversing at -110 odds. If I win, my account now reads $1909 and I cash out +909. Done.
If I lose that first bet at FD, I reverse the 2nd bet at DK for $1000. Going to win one place and lose the other. Total loss for losing my first bet: -$91. So, risking $91 to win $909 was what I did. Loved it. And I always shopped for an extra half-point or full point at the 2nd book, so I have chance to "side" one bet and push the other. Full point, try to middle.
Note: almost all books have in small fine print that a push will result in the loss of the free bet; which I totally think is criminal, but that's another story.

Now, fast forward to today: Books no longer give you the stake back on the free (2nd) bet:
Book XYZ has a free bet of up to $1000. You deposit $1000.
Here is what I do now: I reverse the FIRST bet, rather than the 2nd bet. Again, looking for a half-point or full-point difference now at Book ABC. I HOPE that I win at Book ABC, collecting $909. Cash out there for that profit. I still have a $1000 free bet at Book XYZ. Remember, no reversing because it is stake back only. So, I lose my 2nd bet at Book XYZ. Final total for going 0-2 at Book XYZ= -$91. However, if I win my free bet (2nd bet) at Book XYZ, I now have $909 in that account + the $909 I cashed out from the other book, for a total of +818.
In essence, these days, at worst I am risking $91 to win $818.

That's how I currently do things for MY APPETITE.
Your risk tolerance may be much greater.

Yeah, definitely. I constantly see these books advertise "risk-free" when in reality they are giving back a freebet if you lose. Not a terrible deal perhaps, but not risk-free.

[pavyracer]

The guy who loses all his bets and asks for loans to gamble again is giving out advice on how to withdraw winnings. Let that sink in for a second.

[False Start]

You could get a lot of bonuses a if you family members

All you do is have them open up a bank account they don’t have to put any money in it you get the login credentials and then you put your own money into their account and sign up a books with their Social Security number As long as everything matches with the address and name it shouldn’t have to verify

I do this with SEVERAL family members who know nothing about gambling. I tell them ahead of time: I take HALF of what I make.
They were skeptical at first, because, well, "gambling." But once I had two family members vouch for me and tell them I made them each over $10,000 without getting off they're couch, they were sold.
Lot of trips over the bridge to Jersey, though! But well worth it.

[False Start]

I've even told non-gambling friends about me "doing all the work," and I get half.
Sad that so many of them don't want free money. I average about $10,000 per person I sign up. ($20,000 split)
They just don't understand and think it's "gambling." They trust me and all, but think "it's too good to be true" and don't want to get involved.
I totally understand their point of view, but these same people go up to Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun and lose $400 on slot machines. LOL
Oh well, I guess ignorance is bliss.

[stevex]

These onshore books hardly ever offer reload bonuses. Offshore destroys them in that category.

[False Start]

I never took a bonus with offshores. Not sure why. Maybe the rollover. Again, not really sure why.

[BeatTheJerk]

I've even told non-gambling friends about me "doing all the work," and I get half.
Sad that so many of them don't want free money. I average about $10,000 per person I sign up. ($20,000 split)
They just don't understand and think it's "gambling." They trust me and all, but think "it's too good to be true" and don't want to get involved.
I totally understand their point of view, but these same people go up to Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun and lose $400 on slot machines. LOL
Oh well, I guess ignorance is bliss.

You seem very confident with other peoples money. If it’s so easy to make money off a 50% commission then you should have your own money by now & not have to bother people to gamble with their money.

[d2bets]

You seem very confident with other peoples money. If it’s so easy to make money off a 50% commission then you should have your own money by now & not have to bother people to gamble with their money.

I'm sure he does, but it never hurts to have more. Each new separate account has value. Can't infinitely scale your own accounts. Bonuses, limiting, perks, etc. The most valuable account is that of a long-time loser. That's money.

[BeatTheJerk]

I'm sure he does, but it never hurts to have more. Each new separate account has value. Can't infinitely scale your own accounts. Bonuses, limiting, perks, etc. The most valuable account is that of a long-time loser. That's money.

This is true, KVB talks about this & does this as well.