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    I just hate salesmen of any kind lol I’m very biased. I could never do that personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk View Post
    This is true, KVB talks about this & does this as well.
    I don't and wouldn't, but that's just me. Too complicated with collecting and tech and taxes and whatnot. But in theory it's nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk View Post
    You seem very confident with other peoples money. If it’s so easy to make money off a 50% commission then you should have your own money by now & not have to bother people to gamble with their money.
    Bother people? I am HELPING them, while making more money for myself.

    There are 20+ sportsbooks in NJ, NY, CT, PA.....all within a 1:50 drive...That's about $20,000 in bonus money. I take half. Do the math.

    A chimpanzee could do what I'm doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by False Start View Post
    Bother people? I am HELPING them, while making more money for myself.

    There are 20+ sportsbooks in NJ, NY, CT, PA.....all within a 1:50 drive...That's about $20,000 in bonus money. I take half. Do the math.

    A chimpanzee could do what I'm doing.
    Sounds like running a small business of some sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk View Post
    I just hate salesmen of any kind lol I’m very biased. I could never do that personally.
    Salesman? LOLOL

    Oh, the naivety.
    I am making friends and family money. There is ZERO risk involved for them.

    Some of my accounts have been limited for making too much money from past-posting.
    Every account has a value.

    I'm going to start paying people to open accounts. Did you not see the youtube video about Colorado? It's the same as in New Jersey. The Wild West of sportsbooks...those two states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk View Post
    Sounds like running a small business of some sort.
    Where the customers (my loved ones) make tons of money by doing nothing. And I get half.
    Win-win.
    Not breaking any rules.

    Winning gamblers like me would pay a fortune to have new accounts/limits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by False Start View Post
    Where the customers (my loved ones) make tons of money by doing nothing. And I get half.
    Win-win.
    Not breaking any rules.

    Winning gamblers like me would pay a fortune to have new accounts/limits.
    They get half and pay the tax on the whole? That's where things get sticky in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by False Start View Post
    Where the customers (my loved ones) make tons of money by doing nothing. And I get half.
    Win-win.
    Not breaking any rules.

    Winning gamblers like me would pay a fortune to have new accounts/limits.
    What is your net worth these days winning gambler ? I’m not hating, I’m a winning gambler overall through the years/decades, but been having trouble scaling. I live in Florida I have zero sports books in my state. All my action is offshore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by False Start View Post
    Salesman? LOLOL

    Oh, the naivety.
    I am making friends and family money. There is ZERO risk involved for them.

    Some of my accounts have been limited for making too much money from past-posting.
    Every account has a value.

    I'm going to start paying people to open accounts. Did you not see the youtube video about Colorado? It's the same as in New Jersey. The Wild West of sportsbooks...those two states.
    Yes I saw Spencer’s video, I’m the one who posted it on this forum lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk View Post
    What is your net worth these days winning gambler ? I’m not hating, I’m a winning gambler overall through the years/decades, but been having trouble scaling. I live in Florida I have zero sports books in my state. All my action is offshore.
    Move.

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    I'm up to $1.3 million made past-posting since 2016. I know this because I was at $1.2 last month when I met with my tax guy.
    But I also work on Wall Street for a brokerage firm as my main job.

    Yes, I pay quarterly estimated taxes on EVERYTHING, including offshore. Some might say that it's stupid to pay taxes on offshore accounts. But since I am always moving large withdrawals around, it can get noticed.
    I'm able to sleep well at night knowing that I did the right thing by the IRS.

    I have no idea what my family does about their "gambling wins" and their taxes (other than my wife and daughter). All the money earned (by other relatives and friends) is also in their own name/account. Whether they choose to pay taxes on it is their business. Much of my family lives in Florida.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Move.
    No I can’t right now. I’m raising my son alone, who has a established life here with friends & family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by False Start View Post
    I'm up to $1.3 million made past-posting since 2016. I know this because I was at $1.2 last month when I met with my tax guy.
    But I also work on Wall Street for a brokerage firm as my main job.

    Yes, I pay quarterly estimated taxes on EVERYTHING, including offshore. Some might say that it's stupid to pay taxes on offshore accounts. But since I am always moving large withdrawals around, it can get noticed.
    I'm able to sleep well at night knowing that I did the right thing by the IRS.

    I have no idea what my family does about their "gambling wins" and their taxes (other than my wife and daughter). All the money earned (by other relatives and friends) is also in their own name/account. Whether they choose to pay taxes on it is their business. Much of my family lives in Florida.
    I appreciate you answering my question. A lot of guys on here would tell me to fukk off with that sort of question lol. I’ll tell you right now my net worth is well under 100k, so I’m working with a lot less to presumably scale.

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    It should be noted that my days of past-posting will be coming to an end in the next few years, as legalization (and limits) have made it more difficult. But I hit them hard and often before getting limited/banned. From October-April I'm in four hockey arenas (three NHL and one AHL).

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    When I'm walking to Madison Square Garden from the subway (or Newark) I walk past homeless people and say to myself "All this guy needs is a computer, a hundred bucks, and a ticket to the game and his life can be turned around."
    It's sad in some ways.
    But, like I always say, if the books are going to be that dumb by leaving the live line posted while the puck is in play, then that's their own fault.

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    Was at the Yankee game the other day...DK had a prop "What will happen on the next pitch?" Made a fortune in nine innings. Amazing.
    But, like I always say, each account only lasts so long. They boot me. As they should. They are not in the business of losing money. It's a race for information, and I win that race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk View Post
    No I can’t right now. I’m raising my son alone, who has a established life here with friends & family.
    I get it, I was just being flippant. I couldn't move either. Hopefully Florida will get with the program for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    I get it, I was just being flippant. I couldn't move either. Hopefully Florida will get with the program for you.

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    How the fk do you get reliable cell service sitting with 20k ppl? Last time I was at a hockey game I had terrible service. I would be so tilted if I couldn't get my bet in before the line closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaWoj View Post
    How the fk do you get reliable cell service sitting with 20k ppl? Last time I was at a hockey game I had terrible service. I would be so tilted if I couldn't get my bet in before the line closed.
    What do you mean? Bring your laptop to the game! Much easier with several windows open (for different bets and different books) at the same time.
    If using ONE book, I have FOUR windows open at a time from the same book.
    Example:
    Flyers at Rangers
    Screen1: "Flyers to score the next goal."
    Screen 2: "Rangers to score the next goal."
    Screen 3: "Period x OVER 0.5 goals" (or 1.5 or 2.5 if there have already been goals scored)
    Screen 4: "Game total OVER x.5 goals (could be 0.5. 1.5, 2.5, etc)
    As soon as I see the puck hit the back of the net, I immediately place THREE wagers: 1- the team who scored the goal, and 2- OVER the period total, and 3- OVER the game total.

    Some books also do "team totals" in-play, and I cue that up.

    Every arena offers free wifi. I sit way up by myself, center ice. Best spot. Nobody says a word to me.

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    I'm loving that DK has baseball: "what will the next pitch be?" ball, strike, in-play, etc.
    I beat the delay on every pitch while I'm in attendance.
    Going to go to Mets and Yankees games on a nightly basis now.
    This is absolutely incredible.
    I thought I could only past-post hockey. Now I have extra income all summer!
    Made enough in one game this week to pay for my 2nd daughter's first semester sophomore tuition at Georgetown in the Fall.
    Got to hit them while it's hot. Limits surely coming any day now.
    Will then use my wife's and oldest daughter's accounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by False Start View Post
    I'm loving that DK has baseball: "what will the next pitch be?" ball, strike, in-play, etc.
    I beat the delay on every pitch while I'm in attendance.
    Going to go to Mets and Yankees games on a nightly basis now.
    This is absolutely incredible.
    I thought I could only past-post hockey. Now I have extra income all summer!
    Made enough in one game this week to pay for my 2nd daughter's first semester sophomore tuition at Georgetown in the Fall.
    Got to hit them while it's hot. Limits surely coming any day now.
    Will then use my wife's and oldest daughter's accounts.
    Can you provide any tickets to verify this claim ?

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    So wow is he saying he goes to the game and since there is a delay he bets the live and will win because he already saw what happened? If so that is awesome and a great idea .
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    Tickets that I was at the Yankees game?
    Or betting tickets?
    As I've said in other posts, I'm not good at technology. There is no paper ticket! It's via an online sportsbook.
    I've heard of the term "screenshots" before, but I've never had to do them and wouldn't know how.

    Why everybody who is a losing gambler isn't doing this...I don't know why.
    As I've said, the books are IDIOTS for offering LIVE BETTING when the puck is in play, the ball is in the air, or the pitcher delivers the pitch.

    GO TO A GAME AND DO IT.
    In Australia, I think it's called "courtsiding" and you can't do it. They do it for tennis.
    Here, hockey is the best! Until I just discovered that DK is dumb enough to have a "result of the next pitch" prop. $$$$

    Again, go to a game! Best thing I ever did was discover the t.v. feed was way behind the AM radio feed, which was AHEAD of the sportsbooks. But IN PERSON is the best. The sportsbooks are behind. Look for a sportsbook that only puts you on a 3-5 second "spinning wheel."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    How are those 40 cent money lines treating you?

    I bet 10 cent money lines up to -190

    Thank You
    You do not bet, period. Stop lying.

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    Yup. Like I said, a chimpanzee can do what I am doing. And it is 100% legal in the USA.
    I have better info than the books.
    Info is everything.
    On my way to Yankee Stadium right now from my office.
    This will not last forever. Books eventually limit and boot me. I take it as a badge of honor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by False Start View Post
    Tickets that I was at the Yankees game?
    Or betting tickets?
    As I've said in other posts, I'm not good at technology. There is no paper ticket! It's via an online sportsbook.
    I've heard of the term "screenshots" before, but I've never had to do them and wouldn't know how.

    Why everybody who is a losing gambler isn't doing this...I don't know why.
    As I've said, the books are IDIOTS for offering LIVE BETTING when the puck is in play, the ball is in the air, or the pitcher delivers the pitch.

    GO TO A GAME AND DO IT.
    In Australia, I think it's called "courtsiding" and you can't do it. They do it for tennis.
    Here, hockey is the best! Until I just discovered that DK is dumb enough to have a "result of the next pitch" prop. $$$$

    Again, go to a game! Best thing I ever did was discover the t.v. feed was way behind the AM radio feed, which was AHEAD of the sportsbooks. But IN PERSON is the best. The sportsbooks are behind. Look for a sportsbook that only puts you on a 3-5 second "spinning wheel."
    You just lost credibility with me on this response, but hey it’s only one skeptic here. The rest of the forum probably will believe you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk View Post
    You just lost credibility with me on this response, but hey it’s only one skeptic here. The rest of the forum probably will believe you.
    Good. More money for me. I need sqaure action in the markets. It's what keeps live betting going.

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    Come see my home in New Canaan, Connecticut. Google that town.
    Good luck with betting into things you don't know the outcome of!

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    Quote Originally Posted by False Start View Post
    Yup. Like I said, a chimpanzee can do what I am doing. And it is 100% legal in the USA.
    I have better info than the books.
    Info is everything.
    On my way to Yankee Stadium right now from my office.
    This will not last forever. Books eventually limit and boot me. I take it as a badge of honor.
    I live near the Philly stadiums very close in NJ. So you are saying
    (This really intrigues me) that if i go to a Phillies game and sit in the higher section i can bet the live as it happens and always win because the site does not update it right away ? I mean if you do this nonstop do they see that you are winning and limit you faster? Can they tell if you were at the game from IP and consider that cheating? I mean if i were ever to try this that would be amazing if it work. Even if they eventually limit me if i could strike fast and hard and win a ton that would be awesome holy crap. I do not go to many games but i would go to try this.

    Also curious what are the limits on bets like that? If its $1000 wow you could start with $500 and probably go in on 6 max bets they probably do not get suspicious on just 6 bets. Maybe after winning purposely lose a bet here and there make it look good
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    Quote Originally Posted by captrobey View Post
    I live near the Philly stadiums very close in NJ. So you are saying
    (This really intrigues me) that if i go to a Phillies game and sit in the higher section i can bet the live as it happens and always win because the site does not update it right away ? I mean if you do this nonstop do they see that you are winning and limit you faster? Can they tell if you were at the game from IP and consider that cheating? I mean if i were ever to try this that would be amazing if it work. Even if they eventually limit me if i could strike fast and hard and win a ton that would be awesome holy crap. I do not go to many games but i would go to try this.
    Like I said the other day, I don't even know what IP means! LOL I used to think it was "internet provider."
    I've only started to openly talk about it the last few months, because of legalization. Up $1.3 million since starting in 2016.
    I use whatever wifi they have.
    Tony from 5dimes chatted with me back in the day, and said "how are you winning 99% of your bets?" LOL. Heritage risk management emailed me all the time. I tried to throw some losing wagers in there on purpose, so I could last longer. It's not cheating in the USA. I am beating the books at their own game.

    DK will probably limit/ban me by the end of this homestand. Then it's on to a new account and a new book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captrobey View Post
    I live near the Philly stadiums very close in NJ. So you are saying
    (This really intrigues me) that if i go to a Phillies game and sit in the higher section i can bet the live as it happens and always win because the site does not update it right away ? I mean if you do this nonstop do they see that you are winning and limit you faster? Can they tell if you were at the game from IP and consider that cheating? I mean if i were ever to try this that would be amazing if it work. Even if they eventually limit me if i could strike fast and hard and win a ton that would be awesome holy crap. I do not go to many games but i would go to try this.

    Also curious what are the limits on bets like that? If its $1000 wow you could start with $500 and probably go in on 6 max bets they probably do not get suspicious on just 6 bets. Maybe after winning purposely lose a bet here and there make it look good
    Capt try this at a Philly game & let me know if this is a real thing, then I will apologize to this man profoundly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by False Start View Post
    I'm loving that DK has baseball: "what will the next pitch be?" ball, strike, in-play, etc.
    I beat the delay on every pitch while I'm in attendance.
    Going to go to Mets and Yankees games on a nightly basis now.
    This is absolutely incredible.
    I thought I could only past-post hockey. Now I have extra income all summer!
    Made enough in one game this week to pay for my 2nd daughter's first semester sophomore tuition at Georgetown in the Fall.
    Got to hit them while it's hot. Limits surely coming any day now.
    Will then use my wife's and oldest daughter's accounts.
    If you're really doing this, then bragging about it online is the stupidest thing you can possibly do.

    "Hey everyone, copy me so we have hundreds of players killing the book. Maybe they won't notice! I hope no one from DK is reading this right now."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    If you're really doing this, then bragging about it online is the stupidest thing you can possibly do.

    "Hey everyone, copy me so we have hundreds of players killing the book. Maybe they won't notice! I hope no one from DK is reading this right now."
    That’s why I don’t think this is real, so I asked for a screenshot of some tickets & then he seems to forget how to use the internet all of a sudden.

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