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    Some shops CANCELLED all PFL wagers yesterday............others GRADED as WIN/LOSS

    The books that cancelled stated that the fights were PRE-RECORDED

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    .........some shops have still not decided what to do, and have the fights still UNgraded


    Thoughts on this clusterfuk???

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    I just watched When We Were Kings. I bet $100 on Ali when the movie started. Heritage canceled it using the same logic

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    Heritage was bitch here.

    I think they read too much twitter.


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    I'll admit, the thing was like a wierd reality show.

    But I think the event was legit broadcast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay View Post
    I just watched When We Were Kings. I bet $100 on Ali when the movie started. Heritage canceled it using the same logic
    Unbelievable , wow!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    The books that cancelled stated that the fights were PRE-RECORDED
    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    .........some shops have still not decided what to do, and have the fights still UNgraded


    Thoughts on this clusterfuk???
    Which books have not decided or have it ungraded?

    As far as I know all major offshores graded the event apart from Heritage.



    Did you know the third fight on the card was actually fought first?

    First three fight times were stuffed up as well as the broadcaster editing some parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Which books have not decided or have it ungraded?

    As far as I know all major offshores graded the event apart from Heritage.



    Did you know the third fight on the card was actually fought first?

    First three fight times were stuffed up as well as the broadcaster editing some parts.
    Many times in the past on various MMA/UFC events the fight orders are changed,,,,,did not know of this happening in this case.

    Any idea when the exact time the fights actually took place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post

    Many times in the past on various MMA/UFC events the fight orders are changed,,,,,did not know of this happening in this case.

    Any idea when the exact time the fights actually took place?
    Personally from what I can work out the event started at the right time, 6.00pm PST.

    For voided bets placed before that time Heritage have been asked if they have any reason to suspect any fight started prior to 6pm PST

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Personally from what I can work out the event started at the right time, 6.00pm PST.

    For voided bets placed before that time Heritage have been asked if they have any reason to suspect any fight started prior to 6pm PST
    Oh wow, good info, thanks

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    Can anyone confirm if Heritage changed their decision with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    Can anyone confirm if Heritage changed their decision with this?
    Not yet. And they believe they are correct based on info they received.

    They are investigating their information source though.

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    Fights were recorded on March 25th. Clearly some people had inside info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    Fights were recorded on March 25th. Clearly some people had inside info.
    Where did this come from Canuck?

    Can you link to me anything about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Where did this come from Canuck?

    Can you link to me anything about it?
    I have a subscription to US Integrity and that is what they sent out from a PFL spokesperson
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    LFA lines up for Friday at some shops.

    Anyone wagering on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    LFA lines up for Friday at some shops.

    Anyone wagering on this?
    PFL MMA confirmed what CanuckG reported. That Night 7 of the PFL Challenger series was fought and taped on 25th March, on the same day as Night 6.

    Participants were asked to sign NDAs to keep results quiet.

    PFL say this is the first time they have done that and did not anticipate the betting problem it could cause.


    PFL say they are aware to not let it happen again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    PFL MMA confirmed what CanuckG reported. That Night 7 of the PFL Challenger series was fought and taped on 25th March, on the same day as Night 6.

    Participants were asked to sign NDAs to keep results quiet.

    PFL say this is the first time they have done that and did not anticipate the betting problem it could cause.


    PFL say they are aware to not let it happen again.
    Awesome, as well as incredible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    PFL MMA confirmed what CanuckG reported. That Night 7 of the PFL Challenger series was fought and taped on 25th March, on the same day as Night 6.

    Participants were asked to sign NDAs to keep results quiet.

    PFL say this is the first time they have done that and did not anticipate the betting problem it could cause.


    PFL say they are aware to not let it happen again.
    Yeah, the winners were definitely leaked. I know a few people who got bets down at legal books and aren't exactly upset that the tickets were cancelled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    Yeah, the winners were definitely leaked. I know a few people who got bets down at legal books and aren't exactly upset that the tickets were cancelled.
    I had no idea taped and lost money.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    I had no idea taped and lost money.........
    Did your book void the winners? If so, that's just wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    Did your book void the winners? If so, that's just wrong.
    My winners were graded as CANCELLED
    My losers were graded as LOSERS


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    Just as the US is starting to accept sports betting as a legal activity we see this crap. Just have it live, why even bother with the whole taping thing? Doubt that books will even take wagers on PFL now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    My winners were graded as CANCELLED
    My losers were graded as LOSERS

    same here

    hopefully bookmaker fixes that today and cancels the losers... situation where "heads i win, tails you lose" is a bad look for the industry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    My winners were graded as CANCELLED
    My losers were graded as LOSERS


    That's not fair at all. All bets should be voided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaul2008 View Post
    That's not fair at all. All bets should be voided.
    Please note, these were various shops, not the SAME shop.............didn't mean to imply that one shop graded the losers and not the winners.

    Having said that, should have been one ruling for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    Please note, these were various shops, not the SAME shop.............didn't mean to imply that one shop graded the losers and not the winners.

    Having said that, should have been one ruling for all.
    yeah it sucks when books have this in their rules, yet still haven't cancelled losers

    "If for any reason, a bet is inadvertently accepted after an event or match has started, the selection(s) affected will be made void and stakes will be refunded."

    so i guess we are to assume that they didn't "inadvertently" accept bets on a fraud, they did so intentionally


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    Books had no idea. Only noticed something when a favourite goes from -300 to -2000

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    Books had no idea. Only noticed something when a favourite goes from -300 to -2000

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaul2008 View Post
    That's not fair at all. All bets should be voided.
    Yeah it's about to get messy by the looks.

    From what I know of Bookmaker I would guess they will void everything.



    @Fishhead What other books do you still need to void?

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    BOOKMAKER.....Mercy. Please. I just checked and they have 20c bases lines w NO LISTED pitchers. This book should be downgraded a rating or two.

    The fight people said they did not anticipate problems w betting by recording a day early.

    So who is stupider, the fight people or the bettors who thought they would get away with it?

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    Already 4 states have asked for PFL to be removed from the betting catalog

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Yeah it's about to get messy by the looks.

    From what I know of Bookmaker I would guess they will void everything.



    @Fishhead What other books do you still need to void?

    All of my wagers placed have been graded where wagered.

    Of all the pending had...............HERITAGE cancelled the most placed, BETANYSPORTS graded the most placed........

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    Quote Originally Posted by loser711 View Post
    BOOKMAKER.....Mercy. Please. I just checked and they have 20c bases lines w NO LISTED pitchers. This book should be downgraded a rating or two.

    The fight people said they did not anticipate problems w betting by recording a day early.

    So who is stupider, the fight people or the bettors who thought they would get away with it?
    CRIS and PINNY no listed pitchers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post


    All of my wagers placed have been graded where wagered.

    Of all the pending had...............HERITAGE cancelled the most placed, BETANYSPORTS graded the most placed........
    If you PM me account numbers and Bet IDs I will try to help get them all voided if you wish.

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