[d2bets]

Like most of the things you say, that's not true.

Draftkings lines are frequently different than Betmgm's lines. One examples last night was Spivav was -205 at betmgm, he was -180 at draftkings.

The spread and vig is often different at draftkings and betmgm.

I just said DK can have good numbers on ML faves. But as for juice spread differential, both are similarly high.

[jjgold]

Tennis lines Draftkings example

-180/135 to 140

Offshore

-180/160 at least 3 places the rest though like draftkings

[False Start]

Okay. Cool. Because the three books I played at in PA has the exact lines.

Heere in Connecticut, Fanduel and DK has some juicy discrepancies. Last night's pre-game total for Georgetown-Xavier was 147 at DK and 145 at Fanduel. Both at -110! Great middling opportunity!

Also, DK is often behind (lag time) so I can bet into a stale live number there. Ex: yesterday in the MVC semis, Northern Iowa hit a 3 to bring the line down to +10.5 at Fanduel, but DK was late and still had it at 13.5. I bet into it both ways. A three-point middle on the spread in the 2nd half of basketball games is a +EV (but it also runs the risk of getting you booted) It turned out that Northern Iowa went without a FG for the last 15 minutes! Still, I'll take that every time. And I had -110 on one side and -115 on the other side.
I miss my days as a courtsider, but if this keeps happening, I won't need to leave my couch.

[d2bets]

Okay. Cool. Because the three books I played at in PA has the exact lines.

Heere in Connecticut, Fanduel and DK has some juicy discrepancies. Last night's pre-game total for Georgetown-Xavier was 147 at DK and 145 at Fanduel. Both at -110! Great middling opportunity!

Also, DK is often behind (lag time) so I can bet into a stale live number there. Ex: yesterday in the MVC semis, Northern Iowa hit a 3 to bring the line down to +10.5 at Fanduel, but DK was late and still had it at 13.5. I bet into it both ways. A three-point middle on the spread in the 2nd half of basketball games is a +EV (but it also runs the risk of getting you booted) It turned out that Northern Iowa went without a FG for the last 15 minutes! Still, I'll take that every time. And I had -110 on one side and -115 on the other side.
I miss my days as a courtsider, but if this keeps happening, I won't need to leave my couch.

Yeah, although both DK and FD have live bet delays, so there is that risk.

[thomorino]

Okay. Cool. Because the three books I played at in PA has the exact lines.

Heere in Connecticut, Fanduel and DK has some juicy discrepancies. Last night's pre-game total for Georgetown-Xavier was 147 at DK and 145 at Fanduel. Both at -110! Great middling opportunity!

Also, DK is often behind (lag time) so I can bet into a stale live number there. Ex: yesterday in the MVC semis, Northern Iowa hit a 3 to bring the line down to +10.5 at Fanduel, but DK was late and still had it at 13.5. I bet into it both ways. A three-point middle on the spread in the 2nd half of basketball games is a +EV (but it also runs the risk of getting you booted) It turned out that Northern Iowa went without a FG for the last 15 minutes! Still, I'll take that every time. And I had -110 on one side and -115 on the other side.
I miss my days as a courtsider, but if this keeps happening, I won't need to leave my couch.

Betrivers and Sugarhouse have lines from the same company, but many books in Pennsylvania have different lines.

[stevenash]

Yeah, although both DK and FD have live bet delays, so there is that risk.

And ESPN.com is a full seven seconds ahead of the telecast on TV.

[False Start]

The live AM radio is my best friend. Beats the sportsbooks feeds.

[JacketFan81]

Books making peanuts many going to close down

offshore basically zero costs its why you can never knock them out mostly all profit

Anyone remember when JJ was straight up trashing offshore for US books? What a clown lol

[stevenash]

Anyone remember when JJ was straight up trashing offshore for US books? What a clown lol

JJ follows the carrot.

[big joe 1212]

I see our resident(OP) socialpath is making friends again lol . Some things never change

I was thinking same thing

[d2bets]

The live AM radio is my best friend. Beats the sportsbooks feeds.

Do you find those online or using an old-fashioned radio or what?

[stevenash]

Do you find those online or using an old-fashioned radio or what?

The apps out there are incredible.

I have XM, but besides satellite you can download pretty much six other apps that give you all the US markets.
You want the Spurs/Jazz live game call on your laptop?
You can have it within two minites.

There's certain indie rock stations I like.
One is out of Athens Ga.
I download their app.

Just delete it when your done for the day, you don't want to clutter things up on the laptop.

[Wilfred]

Payout times are always the same day for me still usually approved within the hour and in the bank account the next dah

[OldBill]

PA got hosed with higher tax fess or whatever for local sports books because we are a common state or something like that all other states very low taxes on sports bets

but guess what the east coast is destroying vegas now beacuse we also have huge whales here or big time business owners that gamble

like i been pushing the legal bets forever started back in 90's almsot got my state rep who called me on phone and said thats great idea i'll push it up for a vote but of course because of that face PASPA rule they wouldnt put it through finally the SCOTUS ruled that rule a phony bad faith or whatever and BOOM all locals gone now except the ones in private clubs where i nly know 1 here

[jjgold]

I haven’t played at a Pennsylvania book over four months there’s absolutely no perks anymore

I get too many offers at far away places

I go to Bovada I see 5x time roll over 50% bonuses all the time

[d2bets]

The apps out there are incredible.

I have XM, but besides satellite you can download pretty much six other apps that give you all the US markets.
You want the Spurs/Jazz live game call on your laptop?
You can have it within two minites.

There's certain indie rock stations I like.
One is out of Athens Ga.
I download their app.

Just delete it when your done for the day, you don't want to clutter things up on the laptop.

OK, but when you stream it through the internet or an app, is it still truly live or is there a delay with the stream?

[False Start]

Old-fashioned AM radio.

I am lucky that I have three hockey teams with 15 miles from my office (Devils, Rangers, and Islanders)...I go to their games in person and beat the delay.
The other live radio stations are the Capitals and Blackhawks AT NIGHT ONLY for me. (Washington comes in better than Chicago, due to the distance from my home) They are seven seconds ahead of the sportsbooks. I beat the "spinning wheel" more often that I don't) 14 seconds ahead of the t.v.

Limits cut, but it's still worth it. I throw some losing square plays in on purpose to stay under the radar. Still, risk management at all these places contacts me, saying I need to make more pre-game wagers.
My highest live limits at any book are down to $250. Keep getting slashed in half. I understand why they don't want my live action. Soon, My limits will be $10 and put on a 30-second delay like they did to me offshore.
Not a way to making a living, as all good things come to an end. Good extra income, though.

[stevenash]

Old-fashioned AM radio.

I am lucky that I have three hockey teams with 15 miles from my office (Devils, Rangers, and Islanders)...I go to their games in person and beat the delay.
The other live radio stations are the Capitals and Blackhawks AT NIGHT ONLY for me. (Washington comes in better than Chicago, due to the distance from my home) They are seven seconds ahead of the sportsbooks. I beat the "spinning wheel" more often that I don't) 14 seconds ahead of the t.v.

Limits cut, but it's still worth it. I throw some losing square plays in on purpose to stay under the radar. Still, risk management at all these places contacts me, saying I need to make more pre-game wagers.
My highest live limits at any book are down to $250. Keep getting slashed in half. I understand why they don't want my live action. Soon, My limits will be $10 and put on a 30-second delay like they did to me offshore.
Not a way to making a living, as all good things come to an end. Good extra income, though.

Where you from?
I'm a Jersey boy in Ct. now.

When I waa a kid I loved Marv calling the Rangers games.

[False Start]

Fairfield County. Work on Wall Street for a brokerage firm.

[d2bets]

Old-fashioned AM radio.

I am lucky that I have three hockey teams with 15 miles from my office (Devils, Rangers, and Islanders)...I go to their games in person and beat the delay.
The other live radio stations are the Capitals and Blackhawks AT NIGHT ONLY for me. (Washington comes in better than Chicago, due to the distance from my home) They are seven seconds ahead of the sportsbooks. I beat the "spinning wheel" more often that I don't) 14 seconds ahead of the t.v.

Limits cut, but it's still worth it. I throw some losing square plays in on purpose to stay under the radar. Still, risk management at all these places contacts me, saying I need to make more pre-game wagers.
My highest live limits at any book are down to $250. Keep getting slashed in half. I understand why they don't want my live action. Soon, My limits will be $10 and put on a 30-second delay like they did to me offshore.
Not a way to making a living, as all good things come to an end. Good extra income, though.

Wow. Now that's a new one by me. And most of my bets are live/halftime. But I don't typically beat the next play. Works well enough just to bet off numbers.

So they actually cut live limits while keep other limits the same?

I can see how it would be an insane edge for hockey. I assume you nail it when you hear a goal scored. Each goal is game-changing for sure, moreso than in hoops or even football.

[JIBBBY]

Go with Bovada, Bookmaker, DSI, Mybookie, Betonline. They all payout within an hour or so via bitcoin/crypto.

Draftkings lol.. I'm not even on that book.

[jjgold]

MyBookie is some operation

Just stay away from casino stuff

[pavyracer]

Anyone remember when JJ was straight up trashing offshore for US books? What a clown lol

I do remember. When he went for the gender change surgery he switched to hating offshore and liking US books.

[stevenash]

Fairfield County. Work on Wall Street for a brokerage firm.

Grew up in Cranford, now In Fairfield County too, the Fairfield County in Connecticut.

[DontTailMe]

Go with Bovada, Bookmaker, DSI, Mybookie, Betonline. They all payout within an hour or so via bitcoin/crypto.

Draftkings lol.. I'm not even on that book.

Yikes.

[JIBBBY]

Yikes.

I've never had a problem with DSI or Mybookie to date. That could change though. DSI and Bovada limited me with props that's it. Mybookie is my least favorite book out of the bunch but it still works.

[DontTailMe]

I've never had a problem with DSI or Mybookie to date. That could change though. DSI and Bovada limited me with props that's it. Mybookie is my least favorite book out of the bunch but it still works.

But surely you see all the people around you having problems, no? Probably shouldn't go around recommending them, especially MyBookie since they're thieves.

It's great that you aren't one of their victims yet.

[JIBBBY]

But surely you see all the people around you having problems, no? Probably shouldn't go around recommending them, especially MyBookie since they're thieves.

It's great that you aren't one of their victims yet.

I don't recommend any books I just know what books have been working for me over the years. Can throw Heritage into the mix also.

[DontTailMe]

I don't recommend any books I just know what books have been working for me over the years. Can throw Heritage into the mix also.

So "Go with Bovada, Bookmaker, DSI, Mybookie, Betonline" was not meant to be a recommendation. Hmmm. Okay.

[JIBBBY]

So "Go with Bovada, Bookmaker, DSI, Mybookie, Betonline" was not meant to be a recommendation. Hmmm. Okay.

Ok I guess it was then. So what are your recommendations?

What books don't stiff and payout at lightening speeds? What books have great lines at times? I'm waiting and I'm all ears well eyes???

[jjgold]

I’ve never had trouble with my bookie it seems a lot of bonus people have trouble and casino players

[False Start]

Wow. Now that's a new one by me. And most of my bets are live/halftime. But I don't typically beat the next play. Works well enough just to bet off numbers.

So they actually cut live limits while keep other limits the same?

I can see how it would be an insane edge for hockey. I assume you nail it when you hear a goal scored. Each goal is game-changing for sure, moreso than in hoops or even football.

The best is "team to score the next goal?" I was a master at it with my laptop. Much easier to keep many windows open. I had it locked and loaded. Much harder with the app. I would feel stupid sitting at the Garden with a laptop, but it was great. This was offshore. Or "period totals."
At home was great, too. Had to put my AM radio out on the balcony and angle it correctly.

Yes, only slashed live wagering. Started at 2000, then, 1000, 500, now 250.
The problem is /was I'm hitting 97% of my "large" in-game wagers. (Sometimes goals get overturn by replay) I decided to hit it hard while the going was/is good. It will eventually get be banned from live-wagering, but I'll get what I can.

[DontTailMe]

Ok I guess it was then. So what are your recommendations?

What books don't stiff and payout at lightening speeds? What books have great lines at times? I'm waiting and I'm all ears well eyes???

Your other 3 recommendations were fine. MyBookie and DSI have stiffed and/or cheated a lot of players.

[Optional]

The best is "team to score the next goal?" I was a master at it with my laptop. Much easier to keep many windows open. I had it locked and loaded. Much harder with the app. I would feel stupid sitting at the Garden with a laptop, but it was great. This was offshore. Or "period totals."
At home was great, too. Had to put my AM radio out on the balcony and angle it correctly.

Yes, only slashed live wagering. Started at 2000, then, 1000, 500, now 250.
The problem is /was I'm hitting 97% of my "large" in-game wagers. (Sometimes goals get overturn by replay) I decided to hit it hard while the going was/is good. It will eventually get be banned from live-wagering, but I'll get what I can.

I'm a bit shocked big US licensed books would not detect that much faster.

I think all the big offshores would notice within half a dozen bets if you were hitting 97% live winners within seconds of it cashing.

good info.

[dumdum214]

Have the same issue with Draftkings, payouts were instantly now it's min 24 hours. Also the promos have basically disappeared the last few months to nothing.