1. 02-25-22 09:44 AM #1
    unluckysob
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    Anybody else use Vegas Insider??

    Changed everything. Rotation. Game history. Point spread history. Sucks. What other sites offer correct rotation, scores, point spread history. Thanks.
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  2. 02-25-22 11:29 AM #2
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    its terrible

    most sites are ruined because of non gambling programmers
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  3. 02-25-22 12:07 PM #3
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    Agree. Only real gamblers know what other gamblers want need.
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  4. 02-25-22 12:54 PM #4
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    even a lot of sportsbooks ruined by software
    old gambling sites were great

    mainly pure text based

    Now a joke with scumbag touts adds, etc
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  5. 02-25-22 01:58 PM #5
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    Vegas insider is a joke. The are more about ads then gambling content
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  6. 02-25-22 02:58 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by clockwise1965 View Post
    Vegas insider is a joke. The are more about ads then gambling content


    100% Agree
    its really become useless.
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  7. 02-25-22 03:06 PM #7
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    Does V.I. still show public betting percentages?

    Couldn't find anything with a cursory glance, didn't realize they changed the whole layout.
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  8. 02-25-22 04:35 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy Munny View Post
    Does V.I. still show public betting percentages?

    Couldn't find anything with a cursory glance, didn't realize they changed the whole layout.
    Awful, it resembles a cheap knock off of Microsoft Bing homepage.

    https://www.vegasinsider.com/
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  9. 02-25-22 05:01 PM #9
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    I kinda like the new format there

    I love comparing opening lines, etc
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  10. 02-25-22 05:41 PM #10
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    I like Vegas Insider for the ability to look at a teams entire schedule with spreads/totals.

    Ken Pom #1, Oddshark #2, and Vegas Insider #3 and I've been killing hoops
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  11. 02-25-22 06:13 PM #11
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    Oddshark impossible to follow
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  12. 02-26-22 12:25 AM #12
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    I use Covers
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  13. 02-26-22 12:48 AM #13
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    I use Covers, but also use VI. VI pissed me off a while ago when they pulled down the odds pages of many of the offshores including Pinny. I liked how they had the whole season for each team so I can see further back than Covers which is their last 10 games up front. I can click on something additional on Covers still to see the whole year but its more clicking and more time this way. Oh well. Don't like the new format.
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  14. 02-26-22 02:46 AM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by unluckysob View Post
    Changed everything. Rotation. Game history. Point spread history. Sucks. What other sites offer correct rotation, scores, point spread history. Thanks.
    They changed a few things quite a long time ago.... I think they are worthless now.
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  15. 02-26-22 03:04 AM #15
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    Yeah they’ve been worthless for about 3-4 years now. They started manipulating their data and changing percentage money and what games were the top bet games each day based on what their sponsored books would tell them while hiding some of those games so that it wasn’t public information
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  16. 02-26-22 06:27 AM #16
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    nobody knows how to display gambling data anymore

    All the old school ways long gone
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  17. 02-26-22 06:30 AM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    nobody knows how to display gambling data anymore

    All the old school ways long gone
    Yeah, and it's not that complicated.
    I'm the biggest nerd on these boards, but I don't need all the bullshit data.
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  18. 02-26-22 06:50 AM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    nobody knows how to display gambling data anymore

    All the old school ways long gone
    All too fancy or spaced out to suit phone templates.

    Give me old school columns and rows to see max amount of data on one screen.
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  19. 02-26-22 07:21 AM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    All too fancy or spaced out to suit phone templates.

    Give me old school columns and rows to see max amount of data on one screen.
    yep Optional you get it just like most line services garbage
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  20. 02-26-22 07:25 AM #20
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    they when to shit a long time ago ..
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  21. 02-26-22 09:25 AM #21
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    I find it peculiar to trash the layout of another sites odds page when ours isn't even reliable enough to stay online for more than a few days at a time......

    This is not a swipe at SBR but perhaps we should put less time into criticizing other sites when ours struggles to even stay online.....
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  22. 02-26-22 09:34 AM #22
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    Hubie I think a lot of people gave up and start looking at other sites

    Not good
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  23. 02-26-22 09:51 AM #23
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    https://www.wagertalk.com/odds

    The absolute worst for scores/odds is the old format here. Terrrrrrrrible.

    https://classic.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/
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  24. 02-26-22 10:10 AM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Hubie I think a lot of people gave up and start looking at other sites

    Not good








    Just phenomenal timing. While their layout might be trash, I can actually see odds .......
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  25. 02-26-22 12:18 PM #25
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    Would be interested if there is another site like VI. For those that don't quite comprehend the issue, the site copied well into excel and was easy to split out rotation, team, closing line and scores. I could basically log an entire week of CBB including HT scores in less than 20 minutes. Old Don Best worked this way. Pretty much any other site I find either won't paste into excel or requires a lot more data manipulation.
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  26. 02-26-22 01:44 PM #26
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    They all changed

    It’s horrible

    Quote Originally Posted by 70'sMan View Post
    Would be interested if there is another site like VI. For those that don't quite comprehend the issue, the site copied well into excel and was easy to split out rotation, team, closing line and scores. I could basically log an entire week of CBB including HT scores in less than 20 minutes. Old Don Best worked this way. Pretty much any other site I find either won't paste into excel or requires a lot more data manipulation.
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  27. 03-01-22 10:11 AM #27
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    Well complain about other sites odds but this site used to be my go-to for odds now its a joke. Bet365, 888sport, Uniway, Betway... wtf? I never even heard of 3 of those and I don't care what their lines are. I had to go to Wagertalk. At least they have the offshores I bet at.
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  28. 03-01-22 10:45 AM #28
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    some pay sites available for premium stats not bad
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