1. 10-21-21 06:17 AM #1
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    My Top 5 USA Books PA

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  2. 10-21-21 06:19 AM #2
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    Lol at foxbet 4. They are beyond awful
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  3. 10-21-21 06:22 AM #3
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    I didn’t know twin spires had anything besides horses, anyone use that?
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  4. 10-21-21 06:36 AM #4
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    Twinspires a nice shop .....it can only rise and a big brand name
    Solid Exec and team
    Take a look

    Why do you not like Foxbet?? I believe part of Fanduel Group
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  5. 10-21-21 06:55 AM #5
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    From now on, if rating books, list the CATEGORY of the rating.
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  6. 10-21-21 08:28 AM #6
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    Foxbet deposit you wait 7 days until you are allowed to take that money back
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  7. 10-21-21 08:33 AM #7
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    Also foxbet/PokerStars never works in the morning, at least a 50 percent chance they are doing maintenance every morning.

    MGM is a solid book IMO but their chat reps are idiots. FanDuel has good support actually, DraftKings has some good and bad.

    DK you can usually get a decent line if you fade the public like app state last night was 5ev right before kickoff
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  8. 10-21-21 08:34 AM #8
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    jjgold is single-handedly keeping the lights on. This is an impressive performance.
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  9. 10-21-21 08:46 AM #9
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    I use TwinSpires when I'm in Upper Michigan, pretty solid book with lots of options.
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  10. 10-21-21 08:48 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by roger t. Bannon View Post
    jjgold is single-handedly keeping the lights on. This is an impressive performance.
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  11. 10-21-21 09:40 AM #11
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    Problem with ratings is the same book is different state by state. Like Ceasar is great in NJ but the worst in Illinois...The Markets and betting options vary so much state to state
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  12. 10-21-21 10:37 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Fanduel
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    DraftKings blows away the rest of those frauds.
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  13. 10-21-21 10:39 AM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shifty View Post
    DraftKings blows away the rest of those frauds.
    DK showing great promise..........MGM has stepped up their game here in VEGAS
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  14. 10-21-21 10:43 AM #14
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    A lot of lines are the same state to state
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  15. 10-21-21 11:15 AM #15
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    What's the rating for the guy you had to pay on Saturdays when you mow lawns to raise cash?
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  16. 10-21-21 11:51 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    What's the rating for the guy you had to pay on Saturdays when you mow lawns to raise cash?
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  17. 10-21-21 12:13 PM #17
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    How about a top 5 in NJ
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  18. 10-21-21 12:30 PM #18
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    I will have a list

    Need to learn more about NJ

    USC you can post your list
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  19. 10-21-21 12:49 PM #19
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    JJ, who has the best CHEESESTEAK??
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  20. 10-21-21 12:57 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I will have a list

    Need to learn more about NJ

    USC you can post your list
    Bet365
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  21. 10-21-21 01:55 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    A lot of lines are the same state to state
    yes but sport events and markets vary. Ceasers in Illinois very limited in NJ its full offering product

    others too including fandual differnent state by state
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  22. 10-21-21 02:20 PM #22
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    PA sports betting handle & revenue by operator September 2021

    Licensee Online Brand Total Handle Total Revenue Online Handle Online Revenue Retail Handle Retail Revenue
    Valley Forge FanDuel $187,553,372 $21,649,572 $183,653,729 $21,229,917 $3,899,643 $419,656
    Meadows DraftKings $166,600,879 $5,296,757 $164,704,750 $5,126,188 $1,896,130 $170,569
    Hollywood Penn National Barstool $54,986,748 $2,962,942 $52,770,687 $2,634,689 $2,216,060 $328,253
    Hollywood Morgantown BetMGM $50,722,680 $5,569,404 $50,722,680 $5,569,404 $0 $0
    Rivers Pittsburgh BetRivers $27,649,796 $2,968,405 $19,765,004 $1,846,242 $7,884,792 $1,122,164
    Rivers Philadelphia SugarHouse $20,612,606 $2,425,703 $13,463,363 $1,204,173 $7,149,243 $1,221,530
    Parx Parx $18,775,632 $2,123,020 $12,021,858 $1,021,071 $6,753,775 $1,101,949
    Mount Airy Fox Bet $15,953,060 $1,257,348 $15,173,522 $1,198,864 $779,539 $58,484
    Mohegan Sun Pocono Unibet $8,934,643 $649,345 $7,305,837 $511,171 $1,628,806 $138,174
    Presque Isle TwinSpires $7,366,133 $771,733 $3,485,472 $307,518 $3,880,661 $464,215
    Harrah's Philadelphia Caesars $6,122,538 $532,814 $2,437,652 $219,829 $3,684,886 $312,985
    Live Philadelphia Betway $5,673,405 $652,464 $1,011,808 -$23,818 $4,661,597 $676,282
    South Philly OTB $2,249,039 $349,413 $0 $0 $2,249,039 $349,413
    Wind Creek Wind Creek $1,824,545 $246,320 $921,828 $57,873 $902,718 $188,446
    Hollywood York $1,493,440 $276,073 $0 $0 $1,493,440 $276,073
    Lehigh OTB $1,257,847 $203,820 $0 $0 $1,257,847 $203,820
    Live Pittsburgh $984,381 $178,538 $0 $0 $984,381 $178,538
    Total $578,760,746 $48,113,670 $527,438,189 $40,903,119 $51,322,557 $7,210,551
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  23. 10-21-21 02:21 PM #23
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    Foxbet worse than garbage 🗑 !
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  24. 10-21-21 02:24 PM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by USCPHILLYGUY View Post
    Bet365
    Caesars
    BetMGM
    DraftKings
    BetAmerica


    Best Cheesesteaks. https://www.donkeysplace.com/
    BetAmerica has AHL hockey. Not many books want to offer it.
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  25. 10-21-21 02:39 PM #25
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    Top 5 Illinois Sportsbooks

    DraftKings

    FanDuel

    MyBookie - easy deposit methods utilizing multiple crypto options (BTC, ETH, Litecoin, even Ripple lol). Also worth mentioning a 1K crypto deposit nets you $500 free play.

    PointsBet - for those who don't know this is an Aussie sportsbook that partnered with Hawthorne Racetrack. It's unique because of their "points bet" system - players bet on an established mark like a spread or total but are rewarded or penalized according to how close they were to the estimate. Not for everyone but I think that's a unique take on wagering.

    Barstool - Portnoy project came in a little late but they have steam based on the way Penn is trending
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  26. 10-21-21 02:40 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar Bait View Post
    Top 5 Illinois Sportsbooks

    DraftKings
    FanDuel
    MyBookie - easy deposit methods utilizing multiple crypto options (BTC, ETH, Litecoin, even Ripple lol). Also worth mentioning a 1K crypto deposit nets you $500 free play.
    PointsBet - for those who don't know this is an Aussie sportsbook that partnered with Hawthorne Racetrack. It's unique because of their "points bet" system - players bet on an established mark like a spread or total but are rewarded or penalized according to how close they were to the estimate. Not for everyone but I think that's a unique take on wagering.
    Barstool - Portnoy project came in a little late but they have steam based on the way Penn is trending

    have you ever been paid by mybookie? notorious stiff/scam book. Also they don't fall under "legal" books.
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  27. 10-21-21 02:42 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    have you ever been paid by mybookie? notorious stiff/scam book. Also they don't fall under "legal" books.
    Yep been paid plenty, where they get you is the rollover, I think lots of people don't look at the rollover before depositing. And their rollover is insane like 40x lol

    Oh also, I didn't really list mine as "legal"
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  28. 10-21-21 02:43 PM #28
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    My bookie I think changed ownership last year you can’t take bonuses there and stay away from the casino if you play small you most likely get paid
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  29. 10-21-21 02:44 PM #29
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    I just checked - it's 10x rollover, 40x is their casino
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  30. 10-21-21 02:46 PM #30
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    I currently have Twin Spires account as well but mostly done horses there, I'll take a look again and report back
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  31. 10-21-21 02:49 PM #31
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    Try TwinSpires Sportsbetting if it’s in your state
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  32. 10-21-21 02:52 PM #32
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    Yeah looks like Twin Spires has a separate sportsbook called Edge, unfortunately it looks like you cannot directly transfer or use wagers from the main site on that one, it appears to be totally separate. At least in Illinois. Probably could have rolled that out better. But the betting options all look pretty standard.
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  33. 10-21-21 04:11 PM #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar Bait View Post
    Yeah looks like Twin Spires has a separate sportsbook called Edge, unfortunately it looks like you cannot directly transfer or use wagers from the main site on that one, it appears to be totally separate. At least in Illinois. Probably could have rolled that out better. But the betting options all look pretty standard.
    TwinSpires Edge is where they publish articles. TwinSpires doesn't have a sports betting license in Illinois which is why you can't wager on sports there yet.
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    I see it now, looks like 6 states, MI, IN, TN, CO, AZ, PA. They do allow you access to their lines and game props which is what I was viewing.
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  35. 10-21-21 04:28 PM #35
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    I think once Twinspires gets in more states they will be fine

    They are a dominate horse brand so that will equate to more sportsbetting accounts in the future.

    I know a guy there taught him 45% of his knowledge
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