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    Intertops - Source of Funds? Really?

    Today I went to make a BTC deposit at Intertops and for the first time ever was asked for the source of my funds. I didn't take a screenshot, but the options were something like: Salary, Savings, Investment, and Gambling Winnings.

    What gives here? Intertops is under no obligation to collect this information AFAIK. I hope they're not creating a pretense to hassle players upon withdrawal for no good reason.

    Has anyone else seen this?

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    Dam....u can call them...prob to avoid money laundering concerns ?? Must of been advised by legal on there end

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    They aren't even worth playing at to be honest. I'd tell them to stuff it.
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    i'd walk away and agree with crusherr. unless they are giving you a good cash bonus no reason to stay. that question is none of their business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtneer1212 View Post
    Tell them it is money made from your bitches on the street. Fack them.

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    One of My USA BTC ATM's asked me for a full KYC with source of funds and proof via paystubs, banking and tax returns. I just said yea right bye bye and moved on

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    Would not deposit in that book ever again.

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    I didn't go through with the deposit. I still have money in there from previous plays and will probably just keep it that way for a while. It would be nice if a representative from Intertops could explain what's going on here. This is obviously shaking peoples' confidence.

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    How far they have fallen.
    At one time my 2nd favorite book .
    Just today a full joke!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    Today I went to make a BTC deposit at Intertops and for the first time ever was asked for the source of my funds. I didn't take a screenshot, but the options were something like: Salary, Savings, Investment, and Gambling Winnings.

    What gives here? Intertops is under no obligation to collect this information AFAIK. I hope they're not creating a pretense to hassle players upon withdrawal for no good reason.

    Has anyone else seen this?
    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    I didn't go through with the deposit. I still have money in there from previous plays and will probably just keep it that way for a while. It would be nice if a representative from Intertops could explain what's going on here. This is obviously shaking peoples' confidence.
    Look dude, just tell them that you don't send your money into online casinos to win!
    And if you play any games/slots and you win some random amount that you made up in your own head that you think is "too much" to win, then you will assume those games are "flawed" because you are winning! And you will STOP playing those "flawed" games you are winning on! And you will start playing only games that you lose at!

    Dude, when you tell them that you don't play games/slots that you win on, because if you win then you assume the game is "flawed", then they will waive EVERY deposit requirement on their whole site and give you a HUGE bonus!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeCool20 View Post
    Look dude, just tell them that you don't send your money into online casinos to win!
    And if you play any games/slots and you win some random amount that you made up in your own head that you think is "too much" to win, then you will assume those games are "flawed" because you are winning! And you will STOP playing those "flawed" games you are winning on! And you will start playing only games that you lose at!

    Dude, when you tell them that you don't play games/slots that you win on, because if you win then you assume the game is "flawed", then they will waive EVERY deposit requirement on their whole site and give you a HUGE bonus!
    Please don't ruin another thread with your mathematical ignorance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    Please don't ruin another thread with your mathematical ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongBall52 View Post
    How far they have fallen.
    At one time my 2nd favorite book .
    Just today a full joke!
    i liked their mobile interface when i started and they had some good bonuses. now they lack a lot of betting options and never really kept up with the times.

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    I got paid $1600 by them recently after a month of KYC bullshit. They are a terrible book and not A+. You shouldn't deposit there even if they weren't asking for info they have no right to ask for.
    Of all SBR's sportsbook grades this one is easily the most wrong. Should be a C-.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    Please don't ruin another thread with your mathematical ignorance.
    LOL Dude I was simply REPEATING verbiage from your own posts! If you think your own posts are ignorant, and you KNOW that it is "mathematically ignorant" for you to assume some slot games are "flawed" if you win money on them, then why the hell did you post such ignorance in the first place? Don't get ill at me for repeating it! Go erase it!
    Last edited by JoeCool20; 05-05-21 at 12:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeCool20 View Post
    LOL Dude I was simply REPEATING verbiage from your own posts! If you think your own posts are ignorant, and you KNOW that it is "mathematically ignorant" for you to assume some slot games are "flawed" if you win money on them, then why the hell did you post such ignorance in the first place? Don't get ill at me for repeating it! Go erase it!
    Didn't your parents teach you to keep your mouth shut? At least then you may not look like such an idiot all the time.
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    What kind of betting volume are you playing through for them to ask this question? I've put $300k through Pinnacle and Bet365 over the last year and a half and have never been asked this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmm View Post
    What kind of betting volume are you playing through for them to ask this question? I've put $300k through Pinnacle and Bet365 over the last year and a half and have never been asked this.
    I only place maybe 3 wagers there per month on average? It can't be because of my volume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeCool20 View Post

    LOL Dude I was simply REPEATING verbiage from your own posts! If you think your own posts are ignorant, and you KNOW that it is "mathematically ignorant" for you to assume some slot games are "flawed" if you win money on them, then why the hell did you post such ignorance in the first place? Don't get ill at me for repeating it! Go erase it!
    I really did not want to do it. But you just won't stop with the off topic hijacking of player complaint threads in S&I no matter if asked nicely, given warnings or infractions. Even if you could just leave it at one troll post per thread we could live with you, but you destroy every thread with constant repeated posts making it impossible for casual readers to work out what happens with the actual topic. Don't bother emailing this time. I will not change my mind again for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    Today I went to make a BTC deposit at Intertops and for the first time ever was asked for the source of my funds. I didn't take a screenshot, but the options were something like: Salary, Savings, Investment, and Gambling Winnings.

    What gives here? Intertops is under no obligation to collect this information AFAIK. I hope they're not creating a pretense to hassle players upon withdrawal for no good reason.

    Has anyone else seen this?
    Even the less mainstream license operators are getting on board with full KYC now.

    Intertops most likely simply want a better license, or have been told they need to start asking for SoF and SoW for bitcoin depositors.



    Crusher is usually right, but in this case he must not know what attracts people to Intertops. Bigger limits on early opiniated lines for some sports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Crusher is usually right, but in this case he must not know what attracts people to Intertops. Bigger limits on early opiniated lines for some sports.
    Its a site I've never really played on much because they treated their old poker regs like crap. Not a site I cared to continue playing/betting with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I really did not want to do it. But you just won't stop with the off topic hijacking of player complaint threads in S&I no matter if asked nicely, given warnings or infractions. Even if you could just leave it at one troll post per thread we could live with you, but you destroy every thread with constant repeated posts making it impossible for casual readers to work out what happens with the actual topic. Don't bother emailing this time. I will not change my mind again for you.
    Thank god!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post

    I only place maybe 3 wagers there per month on average? It can't be because of my volume.
    It's less risk of losing business volume to do it to the smaller customers, to get the overall % needed done.

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    I can provide any KYC stuff these sites require. But my issue mostly is that my income wouldn't justify my bet sizes. If I'm betting $1,000 to $5,000 a game they would know I'm more than just a recreational bettor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    I can provide any KYC stuff these sites require. But my issue mostly is that my income wouldn't justify my bet sizes. If I'm betting $1,000 to $5,000 a game they would know I'm more than just a recreational bettor.
    I'd probably just choose "gambling winnings" for the source of funds. I'm constantly shuffling money back and forth between all of these books, so I can easily show that's where it's coming from, if necessary.

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    Very easy solution. Just don't play there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post

    I'd probably just choose "gambling winnings" for the source of funds. I'm constantly shuffling money back and forth between all of these books, so I can easily show that's where it's coming from, if necessary.
    Never choose that option.

    We regularly get complaints from people who thought it was a good idea to just say that.

    You will be asked for proof, official letters from other books sometimes, and I am yet to run across anyone who found it easy that way.

    Books are still going to want to know the source of original funds even if they somehow accept betting activity as a legit source of wealth.
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    God Bless you Optional , you provide much needed info
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    On spot Opti. Always say what you can prove to be true, never assume anything as you would need to back your statement up with evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post

    It's less risk of losing business volume to do it to the smaller customers, to get the overall % needed done.
    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post

    Never choose that option.

    We regularly get complaints from people who thought it was a good idea to just say that.

    You will be asked for proof, official letters from other books sometimes, and I am yet to run across anyone who found it easy that way.

    Books are still going to want to know the source of original funds even if they somehow accept betting activity as a legit source of wealth.
    Opti, great information, as usual. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Never choose that option.

    We regularly get complaints from people who thought it was a good idea to just say that.

    You will be asked for proof, official letters from other books sometimes, and I am yet to run across anyone who found it easy that way.

    Books are still going to want to know the source of original funds even if they somehow accept betting activity as a legit source of wealth.
    Well, there you go. Don't do that.

    Optional - What if you are a professional sports bettor, and gambling is your only source of income?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I am yet to run across anyone who found it easy that way.
    I remember I was asked for SoF/SoW three times:

    - Ecopayz: just a pro forma confirmation, they didn't ask me for any documents
    - Tipster.de: was quite a hassle which absolutely confirms Optis experience
    - Vbet.de: there I had to fill out a six-page form which contained some very weird questions like criminal record but they didn't ask me for any further proof except a bank statement

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