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    Canadian House of Commons passes bill that would legalize single-game betting

    https://www.cbc.ca/sports/single-gam...ized-1.5999028

    How do you fellow Canadians here on SBR feel about legalized sports wagering moving one step closer to legalization?

    For me, I'm interested in grabbing all the bonuses, but after that I'll probably head back offshore.

    The lines will be worse, limits lower, and they'll likely boot anyone who shows even a small chance of winning.

    Also, if William Hill comes to Canada and my current limit with those wankers is currently $0.00, will I be banned on day one?

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    Sounds like it will be like the Post Office providing your Sportsbook



    Quote Originally Posted by dmm View Post
    https://www.cbc.ca/sports/single-gam...ized-1.5999028

    How do you fellow Canadians here on SBR feel about legalized sports wagering moving one step closer to legalization?

    For me, I'm interested in grabbing all the bonuses, but after that I'll probably head back offshore.

    The lines will be worse, limits lower, and they'll likely boot anyone who shows even a small chance of winning.

    Also, if William Hill comes to Canada and my current limit with those wankers is currently $0.00, will I be banned on day one?

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    My main concern here is that they may ban Canadians from offshore accounts in order to maximize profits for the companies/governments providing the service in Canada. I'm hoping they open up the service to companies who provide bonuses/perks etc, rather than governments/provincial lotteries whose odds are abysmal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyking View Post
    My main concern here is that they may ban Canadians from offshore accounts in order to maximize profits for the companies/governments providing the service in Canada. I'm hoping they open up the service to companies who provide bonuses/perks etc, rather than governments/provincial lotteries whose odds are abysmal.
    Government lottery monopoly would be worst case scenario, for sure.

    I don't think anything they can offer (private or government) would make it worth losing my Pinnacle account.

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    Pinny or Heritage or at least Bodog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge Crater View Post
    Sounds like it will be like the Post Office providing your Sportsbook
    Nonsense. The casinos will have sportsbetting from the big players already established in the USA and online will also be offered.

    The advantage Canadian gamblers have is that the legislation is federal and not state by state like in America so there shouldn't be any geo-restrictions of specific areas. What goes in Newfoundland goes In British Columbia and everywhere in between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmm View Post
    https://www.cbc.ca/sports/single-gam...ized-1.5999028

    How do you fellow Canadians here on SBR feel about legalized sports wagering moving one step closer to legalization?

    For me, I'm interested in grabbing all the bonuses, but after that I'll probably head back offshore.

    The lines will be worse, limits lower, and they'll likely boot anyone who shows even a small chance of winning.

    Also, if William Hill comes to Canada and my current limit with those wankers is currently $0.00, will I be banned on day one?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Microphone View Post
    If it's run like your health care, you can keep it.
    You don't like it? Why?

    You probably have some valid reasons from your experiences living in Canada dealing with the healthcare system.
    How has the system done you wrong?

    Does the possibility exist that you are American and are just repeating fallacies and other nonsense you heard on Fox news? Say it ain't so!
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    Interested to see how Sports Interactions holds up since they only cater to the Canadian market and generally a lot of recreational money. Doubt Pinnacle loses much business from Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xKMACKx View Post
    Interested to see how Sports Interactions holds up since they only cater to the Canadian market and generally a lot of recreational money. Doubt Pinnacle loses much business from Canada.
    I suspect they will be in trouble if legalization passes. They likely don't have the resources to compete against the big US and Euro operators.

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    Everyone is much better off if it fails

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    My thought exactly - if it passes Pinny will pull out of Canada. Sure, we MIGHT get the companies like Draft Kings that are up in the States now but I'm thinking it's more likely to be some heavy juiced nonsense run by the government. Then they'll wonder why people are still crossing the border to use casinos in the neighboring States.

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    Very bad news. What we will end up with is a high vig book that is not as good as what we currently get offshore.

    And the big downside is that it will probably be the end of the Proline lotteries that are currently available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmm View Post
    https://www.cbc.ca/sports/single-gam...ized-1.5999028
    The lines will be worse, limits lower, and they'll likely boot anyone who shows even a small chance of winning.
    All of this.

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    Canadian and Dutch markets are really hot these days.

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    The current bullshit is a forced parlay. Not to mention that their odds r fukd. Appx 40% less payout on an Ontario Proline vs any other sportsbook odds in the world. I have given the OLG righteous shit about their odds. Their stance is " we are a charity and we can post whatever odds we choose as we have no competition. A $100 payout on a Proline ticket would easily garner a $170 payout anywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icon View Post
    You don't like it? Why?

    You probably have some valid reasons from your experiences living in Canada dealing with the healthcare system.
    How has the system done you wrong?

    Does the possibility exist that you are American and are just repeating fallacies and other nonsense you heard on Fox news? Say it ain't so!

    No friends that live there. Stop repeating the tired Fox News line. CBC State news is what you meant to say.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Microphone View Post
    No friends that live there. Stop repeating the tired Fox News line. CBC State news is what you meant to say.
    Canadian healthcare is fine. Its not perfect and there are issues for sure but the issues are mainly due to the fact that 100% of the Canadian population is eligible for medical treatment at no out of pocket expense. What percentage of Americans have no coverage? Its much more than in Canada where 0% of citizens are ineligible.

    Is there better care in the US? For some people absolutely, if you're well off you can buy the best and not have to wait. The rich never suffer anyways.

    The main reason I know the Canadian healthcare system works and works well is because there is no debate in Canada about cancelling publicly funded healthcare, nobody here wants to switch to a US style system that excludes a massive amount of people. Publicly/government funded healthcare is an issue in the US, not at all an issue in Canada, or Australia, or Italy, or France or Japan, or any other 1st world nation.

    Those articles you linked? Propaganda, I don't know who is behind them but its not an unbiased report, its meant to cast doubt about non US systems. Probably funded by an HMO or other insurer. Also they talk about some very specific situations.

    The US lags behind every other industrialized nation in the world when it comes to providing healthcare for its citizens. The US seems to be very good at killing both foreigners and its own citizens by various methods.

    What about other countries with socialized medicine? You only cite Canada.

    "U.S. Ranks Last Among Seven Countries on Health System Performance Measures"

    https://www.commonwealthfund.org/pub...em-performance

    Despite having the most expensive health care system, the United States ranks last overall compared with six other industrialized countries—Australia, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom—on measures of quality, efficiency, access to care, equity, and the ability to lead long, healthy, and productive lives, according to a new Commonwealth Fund report. While there is room for improvement in every country, the U.S. stands out for not getting good value for its health care dollars: it spent $7,290 per capita on health care in 2007 but ranks last among seven countries. The Netherlands, which spent $3,837 per capita on health care that year, ranks first.

    "The US was once a leader for healthcare and education — now it ranks 27th in the world"

    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-r...ucation-2018-9

    US investments in healthcare and education haven't changed much in the last three decades — and it's putting the country far behind its peers, according to a new study from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington.

    After ranking countries based on their levels of education and health, the study found that the US ranked 27th in the world on these metrics as of 2016, behind a host of top-ranking Nordic countries, including Finland, Iceland, Denmark, and the Netherlands.



    USA! USA! WE'RE NUMBER 27!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProlinePlayer View Post
    Very bad news. What we will end up with is a high vig book that is not as good as what we currently get offshore.

    And the big downside is that it will probably be the end of the Proline lotteries that are currently available.

    PLP
    There is no downside to Proline ending. They are a complete ripoff.

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    Here in B.C. we have something similar to Proline known as Sportsaction. Odds are also terrible, but the advantage was lines would never change, giving the player some advantages if there was a huge line move. Years ago they put out lines for a week ahead of time, but recently they only put out daily, and have often been removing games from the menu if odds shifted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvesters View Post
    There is no downside to Proline ending. They are a complete ripoff.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by newton0038 View Post
    The current bullshit is a forced parlay. Not to mention that their odds r fukd. Appx 40% less payout on an Ontario Proline vs any other sportsbook odds in the world. I have given the OLG righteous shit about their odds. Their stance is " we are a charity and we can post whatever odds we choose as we have no competition. A $100 payout on a Proline ticket would easily garner a $170 payout anywhere else.
    Sorry but that view point is rather limited. You ignore the fact that the benefit of soft lines far outweigh the downside of the high vig. Rather than complaining to them about the high vig should be grabbing the easy cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProlinePlayer View Post
    Sorry but that view point is rather limited. You ignore the fact that the benefit of soft lines far outweigh the downside of the high vig. Rather than complaining to them about the high vig should be grabbing the easy cash.
    Nonsense. When I used to play I'd have tickets where my payout would be less than posted on the ticket because they said they took the line down after I bet and the adjusted the odds accordingly. Just a complete dumpster fire of a wagering offering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvesters View Post
    Nonsense. When I used to play I'd have tickets where my payout would be less than posted on the ticket because they said they took the line down after I bet and the adjusted the odds accordingly. Just a complete dumpster fire of a wagering offering.
    How strange. In 20 years of betting (daily) this has never happened to me or anyone else i know.. Not once.

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