[SportsBettor74]

Raider- You may have seen a post earlier in this thread where I stated I had found a glitch in Bovada's casino software with their bonus system. I said nothing to them. They weren't able to tell what I was doing exactly but they knew I was abusing some type of glitch with their system. They called and ripped me a new one, then they eventually calmed down and asked me nicely to walk them through what I was doing. They not only paid me every cent, they let me keep my account open. I was a professional poker player still at the time, so keeping the account was important to me and my livelihood.

I have also stated I hope you get paid. Maybe you were simply playing a +EV slot and didn't realize it. While I don't think that's the case, I suppose anything is possible. If you were doing something, and you know what you were doing, I'm sure MyBookie would try to settle with you on this. Although, they could simply say to you, "Hey, you already got almost $100,000 out of us. You won't be paid a penny more"

I think the more you talk in this thread and continue to berate others and talk bad about MyBookie the closer they will get to saying that it's not worth dealing with you. Their reputation is already shady and having to pay you out this large sum of money may simply not be worth it. They'd rather dump $200,000 into advertisements to get more customers because surely even if you got paid you'd never play on MyBCasino/MyBookie again.

Edit: I understand why you are fired up. Especially if you truly did no wrong. There are many very smart people on this board. Some who make a living off of online gaming/gambling. We've seen these posts many times. You can't blame professionals for questioning the results that you've had. SBR is a great site, amazing community and a fantastic resource for all sports bettors and gamblers. I think most people here are rooting for you to be paid

This is an incredibly balanced post given that 10 posts above the OP has described you as a "moron" and an "unintelligent bum".

I note now that the OP addresses you as "Sir" because you have posted something that the OP does not object to.

Anyway - kudos to you for your balanced post - and for playing the ball and not the man. The OP could learn something from you.

[Optional]

If I have not answered your questions clearly from my last few posts, then please list the specific questions you still want answered 1-whatever and I will address them. Thanks.

TLDR. I never asked you a question.

I have every piece of info needed from you.

I asked my only questions to Spencerho

You seem to be determined to bury all attempts to get his attention for some reason though.

[Optional]

You cannot sue a Casino in Costa Rica. A lawsuit against a Costa Rican casino will go nowhere. Gaming Curacao and Curacao e-Gaming will not help. Their allegiance is with the Gaming Operators like Betsoft and Nucleus. Not a Player. Already attempted that avenue.

Look dude. Stop it with your incessant BS.

You've been lecturing SBR, MyBookie and the posters here since post #1 and most of it is assumptions and rubbish. You know zero about the math of the game or how the industry works. Shaming and arguing with everyone aint going to work for you.


Betsoft is owned/licensed by an entity called Digital Software Ltd based in Malta.

That is where you would take legal action.

[RAIDER1223]

TLDR. I never asked you a question.

I have every piece of info needed from you.

I asked my only questions to Spencerho

You seem to be determined to bury all attempts to get his attention for some reason though.

I will provide any further information you need from me specifically. More than happy to help.

I don't know Spencerho. FYI.

Spencerho, although I don't know you and apparently, you have a similar situation to mine, please reply to Optional so he can help you as he is helping me. Thanks.

[RAIDER1223]

Look dude. Stop it with your incessant BS.

You've been lecturing SBR, MyBookie and the posters here since post #1 and most of it is assumptions and rubbish. You know zero about the math of the game or how the industry works. Shaming and arguing with everyone aint going to work for you.


Betsoft is owned/licensed by an entity called Digital Software Ltd based in Malta.

That is where you would take legal action.

Wrong, Your words are quite strong and uncalled for, Sir. I already know this.

You have no clue what you are taking about.

I have already contacted MGA already....weeks ago, Digital Software Limited, their Auditor and Consultant whom signed-off on the Quinel Audit Reports (2015/2017), and the Operations Manager at Betsoft, amongst others. I have already received responses from MGA, Curacao e-Gaming, and others, and also have the official ADR Manual with the list of all the ADR's which are tied to all online casinos world-wide, and more.

Trust me. I know a lot more than you think I do. Being respectful here, I probably know more than you do.

I know a lot about math, so you can stop with your BS too, Sir.

I'll give you a little tidbit Optional since you think you are so smart. I have people looking out for me that provided me with an exact screenshot of my account as if I work at My Bookie. How the F do you think I got that?

What do you think of that smart guy?

Don't believe me?

Want to know more? Then call me. Go speak with Brad whom is handling my case and ask him. Do you even know who Brad is?

Do you know whom Brandi is at Betsoft?

Do you know Michael at Digital Software Limited?

I know a lot more than you think I know.

You don't know me worth a shit. I'm a lot smarter than you think I am.

I've been in gaming for over 34 years. I know the industry very well. You have zero idea what you are talking about in reference to me and what I know. So, I am respectfully going to ask you to stop attacking me and either help me and I can provide you with whatever information you still need, or don't help me and shut this entire forum post down.

Also, questions for you, Sir since you have asked me so many questions. I think i's time that I ask you a few questions in turn. The question is will you answer them?

1. Are you actually directly involved in speaking to My Bookie or Betsoft, or are you just an SBR forum Operator/Administrator whom monitors posts?

2. What is your actual involvement here in this case?

3. Are you personally, directly engaging with My Bookie / Betsoft? If so, when and how often?

[Mr. NBA]

good grief......figured this thread would of died by now.

[RAIDER1223]

good grief......figured this thread would of died by now.

Hey Mr. NBA. No Sir. It's getting really juicy now. Optional thinks I'm full of shit. I've answered all of his questions. All I need from him is to take action and make things happen in terms of communication with My Bookie and Betsoft; whether he is involved himself or his co-workers at SBR are. Really simple. Not hard to do. He already has enough information to run with it.

No more bullshit. Let's either communicate with My Bookie / Betsoft, or close this out and delete the thread.

Talk and questions and bantering is over.

Time for action.

[Judge Crater]

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2hwqn9

Long thread for sure

[DontTailMe]

Wrong, Your words are quite strong and uncalled for, Sir. I already know this.

You have no clue what you are taking about.

I have already contacted MGA already....weeks ago, Digital Software Limited, their Auditor and Consultant whom signed-off on the Quinel Audit Reports (2015/2017), and the Operations Manager at Betsoft, amongst others. I have already received responses from MGA, Curacao e-Gaming, and others, and also have the official ARD Manual with the list of all the ADR's which are tied to all online casinos world-wide, and more.

Trust me. I know a lot more than you think I do. Being respectful here, I probably know more than you do.

I know a lot about math, so you can stop with your BS too, Sir.

I'll give you a little tidbit Optional since you think you are so smart. I have people looking out for me that provided me with an exact screenshot of my account as if I work at My Bookie. How the F do you think I got that?

What do you think of that smart guy?

Don't believe me?

Want to know more? Then call me. Go speak with Brad whom is handling my case and ask him. Do you even know who Brad is?

Do you know whom Brandi is at Betsoft?

Do you know Michael at Digital Software Limited?

I know a lot more that you think I know.

You don't know me worth a shyt. I'm a lot smarter than you think I am.

I've been in gaming for over 34 years. I know the industry very well. You have zero idea what you are talking about in reference to me and what I know. So I respectfully am going to ask you to stop attacking me and either help me and I can provide you with whatever information you still need, or don't help me and shut this entire forum post down.

Also, questions for you, Sir since you have asked me so many questions. I think its time that I ask you a few questions in turn. The question is will you answer them.

1. Are you actually directly involved in speaking to My Bookie or Betsoft, or are you just an SBR forum Operator/Administrator whom monitors posts?

2. What is your actual involvement here in this case?

3. Are you personally directly engaging with My Bookie / Betsoft? If so, when and how often?

[captrobey]

Too much anger in here need a picture

[SportsBettor74]

[RAIDER1223]

Good call. Looks like a good read. Might order it from Amazon.

[SportsBettor74]

The six Posters look like complete morons now. No one should listen to any of them.

They are all unintelligent bums.

[ace7750, Crusherrr, DontTailMe, Judge Crater, SportsBettor74, and Judge Crater.]

The best thing for this post would be for each of them to go away and allow Optional, SBR, and the affected Players work toward a positive resolution.

The OP ought to update us on a daily basis re: his list.

I will help re: the latest developments:

- Users who should be added to the "moron" / "unintelligent bum" list = Optional + Mr NBA

- Users who are removed from the list and promoted to "Sir" = Crusher.

Please keep us updated on a daily basis re: your list. It is very important that the readers here keep abreast of your list.

[SportsBettor74]

Wrong, Your words are quite strong and uncalled for, Sir. I already know this.

You have no clue what you are taking about.

I have already contacted MGA already....weeks ago, Digital Software Limited, their Auditor and Consultant whom signed-off on the Quinel Audit Reports (2015/2017), and the Operations Manager at Betsoft, amongst others. I have already received responses from MGA, Curacao e-Gaming, and others, and also have the official ARD Manual with the list of all the ADR's which are tied to all online casinos world-wide, and more.

Trust me. I know a lot more than you think I do. Being respectful here, I probably know more than you do.

I know a lot about math, so you can stop with your BS too, Sir.

I'll give you a little tidbit Optional since you think you are so smart. I have people looking out for me that provided me with an exact screenshot of my account as if I work at My Bookie. How the F do you think I got that?

What do you think of that smart guy?

Don't believe me?

Want to know more? Then call me. Go speak with Brad whom is handling my case and ask him. Do you even know who Brad is?

Do you know whom Brandi is at Betsoft?

Do you know Michael at Digital Software Limited?

I know a lot more that you think I know.

You don't know me worth a shyt. I'm a lot smarter than you think I am.

I've been in gaming for over 34 years. I know the industry very well. You have zero idea what you are talking about in reference to me and what I know. So I respectfully am going to ask you to stop attacking me and either help me and I can provide you with whatever information you still need, or don't help me and shut this entire forum post down.

Also, questions for you, Sir since you have asked me so many questions. I think its time that I ask you a few questions in turn. The question is will you answer them.

1. Are you actually directly involved in speaking to My Bookie or Betsoft, or are you just an SBR forum Operator/Administrator whom monitors posts?

2. What is your actual involvement here in this case?

3. Are you personally directly engaging with My Bookie / Betsoft? If so, when and how often?

It is kind of hard to believe this is happening.

The OP is prioritising his need to be "right" and "in control" over the possible retention of 200K.

The OP is attacking the very institution that might be able to help him (free of charge) because it is more important for the OP to save face and be "right" than retain 200K

Wow.

All is lost now for the OP - and, quite frankly, rightfully so.

[RAIDER1223]

The OP ought to update us on a daily basis re: his list.

I will help re: the latest developments:

- Users who should be added to the "moron" / "unintelligent bum" list = Optional + Mr NBA

- Users who are removed from the list and promoted to "Sir" = Crusher.

Please keep us updated on a daily basis re: your list. It is very important that the readers here keep abreast of your list.

That's great. Will do. Maybe you'll come off the list soon. I do have a heart.

[lonnie55]

Go speak with Brad whom is handling my case and ask him. Do you even know who Brad is?

Asking Opti who Brad is, then saying "I know a lot more that you think I know" is just




pure gold

I have already received responses from MGA, Curacao e-Gaming, and others

I highly doubt that. CEG has NOTHING to do with MYB, as mentioned before. No idea why you keep repeating CEG would be involved.

[milwaukee mike]

there appears to be a conflict between the "i'm just a dumb slot player that had no idea whether i was making +ev bets" and this...

'I'm a lot smarter than you think I am.

I've been in gaming for over 34 years. I know the industry very well."

it's quite possible that highly intelligent and knowledgeable people play -ev slot games for 9 months... but it's also quite IMprobable that those same degenerates run a $2,000 deposit into $290,000 doing that

[RAIDER1223]

It is kind of hard to believe this is happening.

The OP is prioritising his need to be "right" and "in control" over the possible retention of 200K.

The OP is attacking the very institution that might be able to help him (free of charge) because it is more important for the OP to save face and be "right" than retain 200K

Wow.

All is lost now for the OP - and, quite frankly, rightfully so.

Thanks. I don't think there has really been much help here anyway at this point, honestly. There hasn't been an update from SBR on what they have been doing for over 3 weeks. No confirmation that they have even connected with MYB / Betsoft. I have no idea what actual involvement they have done unfortunately, since I have not been advised. It's frustrating. I'll be honest. I'm doing what I can do on this end to help, but I haven't seen much in return. So, oh well. It is what it is.

I'll just wait to perhaps hear from them if/when they have any information.

[RAIDER1223]

there appears to be a conflict between the "i'm just a dumb slot player that had no idea whether i was making +ev bets" and this...

'I'm a lot smarter than you think I am.

I've been in gaming for over 34 years. I know the industry very well."

it's quite possible that highly intelligent and knowledgeable people play -ev slot games for 9 months... but it's also quite IMprobable that those same degenerates run a $2,000 deposit into $290,000 doing that

Interesting point.

[RAIDER1223]

Asking Opti who Brad is, then saying "I know a lot more that you think I know" is just




pure gold



I highly doubt that. CEG has NOTHING to do with MYB, as mentioned before. No idea why you keep repeating CEG would be involved.

Clarifying and taken from previous comments. CEG is associated with the gaming operator, Betsoft. Not MYB. MYB is tied to Curacao Gaming.

[milwaukee mike]

Thanks. I don't think there has really been much help anyway at his point honestly. There hasn't been an update from SBR on what they have been doing for over 3 weeks. No confirmation that they have even connected with MYB / Betsoft. I have no idea what actual involvement they have done unfortunately since I have not been advised. It's frustrating. I'll be honest. I'm doing what I can do on this end to help, but haven't seen much in return, so oh well. It is what it is.

I'll just wait to perhaps here from them if/when they have any information.

yeah even though me and others here might have differing opinions than you on how much you should be paid... we still can sympathize and feel your pain... i think most of us have seen money we thought we had disappear, sucks

[RAIDER1223]

yeah even though me and others here might have differing opinions than you on how much you should be paid... we still can sympathize and feel your pain... i think most of us have seen money we thought we had disappear, sucks

Yeah. Thanks. Appreciate it. You're right.

[RAIDER1223]

Since I think some people here are a little emotional, too excited, angry, whatever................................ ......

including myself.......

and for taking a step back here....................and to add a little comic relief, I have decided to change my avatar.

I hope you guys like it.

[Spencerho]

MyBookie literally has a 2k weekly withdrawal limit, trust me, if I could have taken out my balance in full I would have. They know what they are doing, they just want to slow pay you even if you win big.

Can you help me understand why so many of you victims have left 6 figure balances in an online casino account?

What made you decide to not withdraw more of these winnings over the last 6 months?

Did you need the big balances to make it work?



Would you mind explaining what setting had changed and how you needed to play to make it pay?

It won't hurt anything now being 100% honest, and it may help the dispute analyst make an argument.

[Spencerho]

Hey Raider,

Let me know how this goes, if you have an contact resources you don't mind sharing that would be great!

Hey Mr. NBA. No Sir. It's getting really juicy now. Optional thinks I'm full of shit. I've answered all of his questions. All I need from him is to take action and make things happen in terms of communication with My Bookie and Betsoft; whether he is involved himself or his co-workers at SBR are. Really simple. Not hard to do. He already has enough information to run with it.

No more bullshit. Let's either communicate with My Bookie / Betsoft, or close this out and delete the thread.

Talk and questions and bantering is over.

Time for action.

[Spencerho]

Whats good man, what do you think is the best course of action for me going forward from here. Yes my situation is pretty much the same as Raider here.

TLDR. I never asked you a question.

I have every piece of info needed from you.

I asked my only questions to Spencerho

You seem to be determined to bury all attempts to get his attention for some reason though.

[Spencerho]

Not here to lecture or put anyone down, I'm sure Raider isn't either. I just believe that as players we did nothing intentionally wrong and we are being punished unfairly for it and it is frustrating as hell.

I get there is an argument for both sides and I understand when you gamble online you assume all risks but the fact remains that we aren't even getting a chance to make a case in order get our winnings back and it is extremely discouraging.

Why would players deposit money on platforms if they knew that their winnings could all of the sudden be seized without any real evidence other than an accusation? What is stopping these platforms from doing this to anyone at any time?

All I am saying is that these platforms need to provide avenues for players to actually dispute certain decisions especially when there is so much money involved. Also, saying that there is a malfunction is one thing (Betsoft by the way literally said there was no malfunction), but to double down and accuse the player of intentionally taking advantage of it is completely out of line and it shows that these platforms will say anything to justify their shady actions because they know that they can get away with it without any repercussions.

The fact that we have tried so many ways to communicate with these people and still have seen no progress needs to be addressed and it would be great if someone could help us with this situation or provide some useful resources rather than assume that the only way we managed to win big is by cheating and give us reasons why we shouldn't get paid.

Like bro, we just want a fair honest review where we know who is overseeing our case and how it is being done rather than some BS email telling us that some random auditor determined that our winnings are illegitimate.

P.S. Not singling you out by the way, just talking about this thread in general.

Look dude. Stop it with your incessant BS.

You've been lecturing SBR, MyBookie and the posters here since post #1 and most of it is assumptions and rubbish. You know zero about the math of the game or how the industry works. Shaming and arguing with everyone aint going to work for you.


Betsoft is owned/licensed by an entity called Digital Software Ltd based in Malta.

That is where you would take legal action.

[RAIDER1223]

Hey Raider,

Let me know how this goes, if you have an contact resources you don't mind sharing that would be great!

Hey Spencer. I received this communication from Betsoft today. Not exactly sure what this means, but I wonder whom told them that Betsoft has "no saying in this case"?

"There WAS communication -before we were informed that we have no saying in this case."

This appears to show evidence that Betsoft DID NOT have anything to do with authorizing or supporting to have any Player's funds seized and having accounts become permanently disabled.

"There WAS communication -before we were informed that we have no saying in this case".

[RAIDER1223]

Spencer,

Also, I have an update to share. Please reach me privately and I will provide you with the information. Thanks.

[ace7550]

[Mugsy777]

Spencer,

Also, I have an update to share. Please reach me privately and I will provide you with the information. Thanks.

[RAIDER1223]

Raider- You may have seen a post earlier in this thread where I stated I had found a glitch in Bovada's casino software with their bonus system. I said nothing to them. They weren't able to tell what I was doing exactly but they knew I was abusing some type of glitch with their system. They called and ripped me a new one, then they eventually calmed down and asked me nicely to walk them through what I was doing. They not only paid me every cent, they let me keep my account open. I was a professional poker player still at the time, so keeping the account was important to me and my livelihood.

I have also stated I hope you get paid. Maybe you were simply playing a +EV slot and didn't realize it. While I don't think that's the case, I suppose anything is possible. If you were doing something, and you know what you were doing, I'm sure MyBookie would try to settle with you on this. Although, they could simply say to you, "Hey, you already got almost $100,000 out of us. You won't be paid a penny more"

I think the more you talk in this thread and continue to berate others and talk bad about MyBookie the closer they will get to saying that it's not worth dealing with you. Their reputation is already shady and having to pay you out this large sum of money may simply not be worth it. They'd rather dump $200,000 into advertisements to get more customers because surely even if you got paid you'd never play on MyBCasino/MyBookie again.

Edit: I understand why you are fired up. Especially if you truly did no wrong. There are many very smart people on this board. Some who make a living off of online gaming/gambling. We've seen these posts many times. You can't blame professionals for questioning the results that you've had. SBR is a great site, amazing community and a fantastic resource for all sports bettors and gamblers. I think most people here are rooting for you to be paid

I enjoyed reading your post Crusherrr. Well stated.

[RAIDER1223]

Good evening Forum Posters,

I have done some thinking over the past 24 hours. I have decided to take a step back and kind of start over again in some regard. I would like to honestly know your opinion of this. Being very serious here.

I would like to provide an update here to everyone on this forum, but before I do that, I really want to know if you guys want to read it or not.

If folks are going to laugh and call me a liar, use laughing emoji's, and bashing, I won't provide it. However, if everyone is cool about it, respectful, and open to opinions, then I will provide an update and further relevant updates.

Please respond with a "yes" or "no" if you would please from the following:

"Yes: Provide updates and I won't laugh or bash"
"No: No updates, I won't believe you anyway."

Standing by to honestly learn your feedback.

Thanks guys.

RAIDER1223

[DontTailMe]

Good evening Forum Posters,
Please respond with a "yes" or "no" if you would please from the following:

"Yes: Provide updates and I won't laugh or bash"
"No: No updates, I won't believe you anyway."

(a) I would like to hear what you have to say. Because the reason I am an active member of this forum is to keep to keep tabs on the sportsbooks, assess their degrees of risk, and to assist fellow players in getting compensated when they deserve to be, just as I would like to be done for me. Therefore, every incident is important to me.


(b) I won't laugh at you or bash you. I have personally done neither of these things so far. Despite what you may think, I am not here to troll you. Don't mistake me/others laughing at Joe Cool - who was himself trolling this forum with a fundamental misunderstanding of mathematical statistics - as us laughing at you. If you'll remember, I've said all along that I think you should be paid, especially if MyBookie cannot show that you've exploited their game(s). I will, however, give whatever you say an honest assessment and may make evidence-based commentary if I feel it's warranted, just as I've done from the very beginning. I've agreed with you in some instances and disagreed in others. If you cannot handle disagreement, then perhaps this forum is not for you.

[RAIDER1223]

(a) I would like to hear what you have to say. Because the reason I am an active member of this forum is to keep to keep tabs on the sportsbooks, assess their degrees of risk, and to assist fellow players in getting compensated when they deserve to be, just as I would like to be done for me. Therefore, every incident is important to me.


(b) I won't laugh at you or bash you. I have personally done neither of these things so far. Despite what you may think, I am not here to troll you. Don't mistake me/others laughing at Joe Cool - who was himself trolling this forum with a fundamental misunderstanding of mathematical statistics - as a proxy of laughing at you. If you'll remember, I've said all along that I think you should be paid if MyBookie cannot show that you've exploited their game(s). I will, however, give whatever you say an honest assessment and may make evidence-based commentary if I feel it's warranted, just as I've done from the very beginning. I've agreed with you in some instances and disagreed in others. If you cannot handle disagreement, then perhaps this forum is not for you.

DontTailMe, Thank you for your post and taking the time to write it. I appreciate it and was well thought-out. I respect that. Ok, that is a 1 for "Yes".