1. #631
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    Hi Guys,

    Hope everyone is doing great.

    Ok, I am beginning to read all of the posts from the last 2 days or so. Since it's the weekend, I am taking a little longer in reading all of your posts and to respond accordingly since each of you have provided very good detail and insight. I wanted to at least write a quick note to let you know that I am reading them, and will respond either later tonight or before the weekend is over.

    Each of you make very interesting points and I want to address as much as I can all at once.

    I can help clear this up. However, please know ahead of time that I want to make clear that I DO NOT know Rickron / Ronald or Spencerho. I do not know how they played the Take The Bank or any other game (if they even played other games). It seems like they may have played at both My Bookie and XBet. As far as multiple accounts, I cannot speak for them. However, I only played at My Bookie and have only one account (already being being transparent as I have promised).

    So, my feedback/comments to all of your posts from the last 2 days will be from my experience and perspective only. I can only comment on my play and experience and help put some additional light on what may have happened here. The other Players (
    Rickron / Ronald or Spencerho) will have to comment on their own since I did not know them, nor their experiences in playing any game, at any online casino/book.

    Again as mentioned, I will be completely transparent / honest. There is nothing to hide at all. Never has been. Thank you all for being patient.

    This is important for all of us. It really is. It's such a bizarre situation. It's so frustrating. It is unbelievably frustrating and stressful honestly.

    I will circle-back with detailed / specific comments as quickly as possible. I will also provide an "update" separately because I believe I only saw one "no" (to an update) officially from the posts that I have read so far.

    Hope everyone is doing well in the interim.

    RAIDER1223
    Last edited by RAIDER1223; 05-15-21 at 06:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    If the flaw is as mentioned, I'd win about $2,000 a week and no more. After all, you can't get paid more than $2,000 a week, so why try to win more than that?

    That's the downfall to the OP and or anyone else involved. Assuming this is what he was doing that is...
    the other strategy would be to make as much as possible before they shut the game down... yes it could take you years to withdraw but there's really not much downside to building up 200k instead of 100k... and as mentioned he was trying to get higher withdrawal limits

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    the other strategy would be to make as much as possible before they shut the game down... yes it could take you years to withdraw but there's really not much downside to building up 200k instead of 100k... and as mentioned he was trying to get higher withdrawal limits
    The downside is making yourself into a bigger target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    The downside is making yourself into a bigger target.
    oh absolutely

    pretty sure that's why all the shoving off on other slots

    no matter what happens, walking away with 84k and your hands intact might be better than what would happen in vegas a couple generations ago!
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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    oh absolutely

    pretty sure that's why all the shoving off on other slots

    no matter what happens, walking away with 84k and your hands intact might be better than what would happen in vegas a couple generations ago!
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    would you take the $84k and the hammer? or would you walk out

    for me that's a pretty borderline decision... 10k no hammer, 300k yes hammer

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIDER1223 View Post
    Hi Guys,

    Hope everyone is doing great.

    Ok, I am beginning to read all of the posts from the last 2 days or so. Since it's the weekend, I am taking a little longer in reading all of your posts and to respond accordingly since each of you have provided very good detail and insight. I wanted to at least write a quick note to let you know that I am reading them, and will respond either later tonight or before the weekend is over.

    Each of you make very interesting points and I want to address as much as I can all at once.

    I can help clear this up. However, please know ahead of time that I want to make clear that I DO NOT know Rickron / Ronald or Spencerho. I do not know how they played the Take The Bank or any other game (if they even played other games). It seems like they may have played at both My Bookie and XBet. As far as multiple accounts, I cannot speak for them. However, I only played at My Bookie and have only one account (already being being transparent as I have promised).

    So, my feedback/comments to all of your posts from the last 2 days will be from my experience and perspective only. I can only comment on my play and experience and help put some additional light on what may have happened here. The other Players (
    Rickron / Ronald or Spencerho) will have to comment on their own since I did not know them, nor their experiences in playing any game, at any online casino/book.

    Again as mentioned, I will be completely transparent / honest. There is nothing to hide at all. Never has been. Thank you all for being patient.

    This is important for all of us. It really is. It's such a bizarre situation. It's so frustrating. It is unbelievably frustrating and stressful honestly.

    I will circle-back with detailed / specific comments as quickly as possible. I will also provide an "update" separately because I believe I only saw one "no" (to an update) officially from the posts that I have read so far.

    Hope everyone is doing well in the interim.

    RAIDER1223
    You lost my support when you attacked Opti, a guy that will go to bat for you if you're in the right. Also you haven't been transparent at all, despite your new promises to do so. Sorry to say that your own posts killed your case, and that's a shame because MB is a crap Book. Your 200k is gone along with MB's reputation, if they ever had one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIDER1223 View Post
    Hi Guys,

    Hope everyone is doing great.

    Ok, I am beginning to read all of the posts from the last 2 days or so. Since it's the weekend, I am taking a little longer in reading all of your posts and to respond accordingly since each of you have provided very good detail and insight. I wanted to at least write a quick note to let you know that I am reading them, and will respond either later tonight or before the weekend is over.

    Each of you make very interesting points and I want to address as much as I can all at once.

    I can help clear this up. However, please know ahead of time that I want to make clear that I DO NOT know Rickron / Ronald or Spencerho. I do not know how they played the Take The Bank or any other game (if they even played other games). It seems like they may have played at both My Bookie and XBet. As far as multiple accounts, I cannot speak for them. However, I only played at My Bookie and have only one account (already being being transparent as I have promised).

    So, my feedback/comments to all of your posts from the last 2 days will be from my experience and perspective only. I can only comment on my play and experience and help put some additional light on what may have happened here. The other Players (
    Rickron / Ronald or Spencerho) will have to comment on their own since I did not know them, nor their experiences in playing any game, at any online casino/book.

    Again as mentioned, I will be completely transparent / honest. There is nothing to hide at all. Never has been. Thank you all for being patient.

    This is important for all of us. It really is. It's such a bizarre situation. It's so frustrating. It is unbelievably frustrating and stressful honestly.

    I will circle-back with detailed / specific comments as quickly as possible. I will also provide an "update" separately because I believe I only saw one "no" (to an update) officially from the posts that I have read so far.

    Hope everyone is doing well in the interim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    You lost my support when you attacked Opti, a guy that will go to bat for you if you're in the right. Also you haven't been transparent at all, despite your new promises to do so. Sorry to say that your own posts killed your case, and that's a shame because MB is a crap Book. Your 200k is gone along with MB's reputation, if they ever had one.
    God Bless you , so well said ! I say a crooked gambler betting with a crooked book , end of story

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    And Opti is a great guy

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    You haven't counted my vote (or Hedge Hog's). I knew this wasn't a scientific poll. Get ******, RAIDER.

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    No chance you deposited 5k and ran it up to 300k playing only slots, sorry guy, I'm all for the player but you obv found a glitch and i cant say i blame you for taking advantage of it, but they did pay you 84K so your more than ahead, And you're not dumb so you mix it up and lose at other slots like a smart person would to hide the fact. So you didn't hit no jackpots you just straight grinded 2 slots to almost 300k? Glad you were able to swing back and check on posts since its the weekend you no only 200k up in the air. Its obvious you're ahead and at this point you are hoping for a hail mary with no expectation on ever getting it cause you no what really happen.

    No hate coming from my end if you can stick it to the online casinos do it, cause they dam sure do it to us. But i think we no how this is going to end.
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    raider with your play how did you win? were you able to change your bet for this multiplier? this is the transparency we are asking for
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    Quote Originally Posted by pologq View Post
    raider with your play how did you win? were you able to change your bet for this multiplier? this is the transparency we are asking for
    of course he changed his bet size, after the 9th spin... so for the 10th spin much higher bet size when it was +ev
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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    of course he changed his bet size, after the 9th spin... so for the 10th spin much higher bet size when it was +ev
    i think the same. i just was hoping the OP would confirm b/c of transparency.

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    Where's the update, Raider? Actually you have to answer just ONE important question, see above. Instead of writing a novel about why you can't answer the questions right now, you could have just answered the question.
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    Time OP spent playing this slot:
    Over 1000 hours: -110
    Under 1000 hours: -110
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    I find it difficult to believe MyBookie paid this guy 2k a week for more than 40 weeks until they decided to stop paying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay View Post
    I find it difficult to believe MyBookie paid this guy 2k a week for more than 40 weeks until they decided to stop paying.
    I know right!? How could they possibly be that asleep at the wheel?

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    They usually stiff people a lot sooner than that no matter the reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay View Post
    I find it difficult to believe MyBookie paid this guy 2k a week for more than 40 weeks until they decided to stop paying.
    Maybe they have a different standard for casino because in the sportsbook they know they can encounter advantage players, whereas in the casino they always just assumed that the software wouldn't allow something like this?

    I have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    Maybe they have a different standard for casino because in the sportsbook they know they can encounter advantage players, whereas in the casino they always just assumed that the software wouldn't allow something like this?

    I have no idea.
    I never played at MYB. What's the maximum withdrawal amount for sports?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonnie55 View Post
    I never played at MYB. What's the maximum withdrawal amount for sports?

    Looks like $10,500 weekly, per their FAQ. But what I was referring to was them letting $84k go out the door. They often don't even let $8400 leaving their sportsbook without taking some sort of action like freezing your account, not contacting you for months, or releasing their goons on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    They often don't even let $8400 leaving their sportsbook without taking some sort of action like freezing your account, not contacting you for months, or releasing their goons on you.
    My friends and I have never had a payout issue, and it's all sharp. We might get invited to play with lower limits (or markets blocked), but they have always paid without hassle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vampire assassin View Post
    My friends and I have never had a payout issue, and it's all sharp. We might get invited to play with lower limits (or markets blocked), but they have always paid without hassle.
    That's awesome. No one is saying MyBookie never pays. If that were true, they wouldn't be able to stay in business. Your anecdote doesn't really prove anything. The volumes of payout issues on the other hand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIDER1223 View Post
    Hi Guys,

    Hope everyone is doing great.

    Ok, I am beginning to read all of the posts from the last 2 days or so. Since it's the weekend, I am taking a little longer in reading all of your posts and to respond accordingly since each of you have provided very good detail and insight. I wanted to at least write a quick note to let you know that I am reading them, and will respond either later tonight or before the weekend is over.

    Each of you make very interesting points and I want to address as much as I can all at once.

    I can help clear this up. However, please know ahead of time that I want to make clear that I DO NOT know Rickron / Ronald or Spencerho. I do not know how they played the Take The Bank or any other game (if they even played other games). It seems like they may have played at both My Bookie and XBet. As far as multiple accounts, I cannot speak for them. However, I only played at My Bookie and have only one account (already being being transparent as I have promised).

    So, my feedback/comments to all of your posts from the last 2 days will be from my experience and perspective only. I can only comment on my play and experience and help put some additional light on what may have happened here. The other Players (
    Rickron / Ronald or Spencerho) will have to comment on their own since I did not know them, nor their experiences in playing any game, at any online casino/book.

    Again as mentioned, I will be completely transparent / honest. There is nothing to hide at all. Never has been. Thank you all for being patient.

    This is important for all of us. It really is. It's such a bizarre situation. It's so frustrating. It is unbelievably frustrating and stressful honestly.

    I will circle-back with detailed / specific comments as quickly as possible. I will also provide an "update" separately because I believe I only saw one "no" (to an update) officially from the posts that I have read so far.

    Hope everyone is doing well in the interim.

    RAIDER1223
    Wtf is this?

    Take 5 minutes and read the posts.

    We are asking you to confirm if you used this exploit - yes/no answer. If you lie about it you will be caught out. If you don't answer then it means "yes".

    Also - if you know rickron or if you have some kind of PM going on with him then get him to publish the ENTIRE conversation with Betsoft.

    That's it. Nothing more to say from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    That's awesome. No one is saying MyBookie never pays. If that were true, they wouldn't be able to stay in business. Your anecdote doesn't really prove anything. The volumes of payout issues on the other hand...
    The only outstanding payouts I'm aware of involve winnings from a casino game that paid over 100% for months. Are there any others?

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    I don't understand your question. I'm talking about the sportsbook and comparing it to this situation. They'd never allow $84,000 to leave their sportsbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    Looks like $10,500 weekly, per their FAQ. But what I was referring to was them letting $84k go out the door. They often don't even let $8400 leaving their sportsbook without taking some sort of action like freezing your account, not contacting you for months, or releasing their goons on you.
    and with that, you would think the money back and forth from casino play on OP's account would have raised a flag for them to look at. maybe they just dropped the ball for that long.

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    So if these players racked up their wins as described (very likely), does it hurt their case to get paid out? For me, I still think they should get paid. It's not like a jackpot that clearly stated this combo pays out this price and the machine pays out 10x the advertised amount.

    In this case, how were the players to know that the machine was not supposed to work this way? Does the slot games have clearly stated rules clarifying that player are not allowed to change their bet sizes like this? Otherwise it's a slippery slope. "Oh you ran up a balance on roulette? Sorry betting on black is only supposed to pay out 50c on the dollar in our Casino, we gonna have to void your winnings". C ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicername View Post
    In this case, how were the players to know that the machine was not supposed to work this way?
    If you have a game that consistently pays out more than 100%, 52 weeks in a row, any idiot knows the game isn't operating as expected. Is it skill-based (like Blackjack and counting) or glitch based? The players' wins are based on a software error. I'm glad any time they beat the man, but don't try to make the moral argument. A US regulated casino wouldn't have to pay under these facts. I don't fault the player for attempting to shame MyBookie for not paying -- if I had 100k in play, I might try the same. But this isn't a case of a player getting screwed by a sportsbook. This is a player exploiting a fault in a casino game, and trying to take out as much as possible. I congratulate the player on getting 80k or whatever out, but his insistence that he's just lucky and doesn't know better is a farce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vampire assassin View Post
    If you have a game that consistently pays out more than 100%, 52 weeks in a row, any idiot knows the game isn't operating as expected. Is it skill-based (like Blackjack and counting) or glitch based? The players' wins are based on a software error. I'm glad any time they beat the man, but don't try to make the moral argument. A US regulated casino wouldn't have to pay under these facts. I don't fault the player for attempting to shame MyBookie for not paying -- if I had 100k in play, I might try the same. But this isn't a case of a player getting screwed by a sportsbook. This is a player exploiting a fault in a casino game, and trying to take out as much as possible. I congratulate the player on getting 80k or whatever out, but his insistence that he's just lucky and doesn't know better is a farce.
    yes, he is a penis isn't he?

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    could someone be a newbie and not know better? sure. but i don't think you play this level of money and not know what is going on. like if my mom played she would not know what is going on but she would also be playing $50 and happy she made $100 and move on.

    i don't blame the OP for taking a chance but i also think you have to know that you made out somewhat and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pologq View Post
    could someone be a newbie and not know better? sure. but i don't think you play this level of money and not know what is going on. like if my mom played she would not know what is going on but she would also be playing $50 and happy she made $100 and move on.

    i don't blame the OP for taking a chance but i also think you have to know that you made out somewhat and move on.
    You have to not only be unaware of what is going on, but also just happen to perform the exact actions necessary to take advantage of this flaw in the game...without having a reason for doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    You have to not only be unaware of what is going on, but also just happen to perform the exact actions necessary to take advantage of this flaw in the game...without having a reason for doing so.
    JoeCool would say there is a chance the player accidentally and coincidentally adjusted his bet size when it was necessary.

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