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    Does anyone play with BETRIVERS online book?

    With the possible exception of DraftKings, these other books websites are not real simple to use. I don't want a Bet MGM clone website.

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    they pay the fastest with same lines as DK. The APP sucks BUT the desktop works good. They also have nice promo boosts and the managment has best CS . Bottom line with the legal books sign up for everyone of them at take advantage of the promotion fest they all offer

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    they pay the fastest with same lines as DK. The APP sucks BUT the desktop works good. They also have nice promo boosts and the managment has best CS . Bottom line with the legal books sign up for everyone of them at take advantage of the promotion fest they all offer
    I'm lazy. Don't want to create another username--password for a site that looks more like a puzzle than a sportsbook. Do they have a clock in the top middle of screen like MGM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongBall52 View Post
    I'm lazy. Don't want to create another username--password for a site that looks more like a puzzle than a sportsbook. Do they have a clock in the top middle of screen like MGM?

    not sure MGM is not approved Illinois as of yet...Dumb not to have accounts at every legal one. Free money for a one minute sign up then just pick one you like best for most action and use others for all the freebies

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    FYI,

    I made a $5 free bet I was awarded- on the White Sox to win the pennant and had to wait for approval. Granted it was at 7 in the morning , but still.........ridiculous

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    Here in Michigan, took the 250 max 100% bonus, also did the 1500/500 risk free bets at Pointsbet to the max. Do I really feel like I have to take them all out? Just my enemies. Next, I will say hello to William Hill and the 2,021 risk free bet. Outside of them, I'm not seeing many great bonuses as of yet. FanDuel's bonus sucks. I thought DraftKings had something but don't think its great either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbill1 View Post
    FYI,

    I made a $5 free bet I was awarded- on the White Sox to win the pennant and had to wait for approval. Granted it was at 7 in the morning , but still.........ridiculous
    Are you saying this was at BetRivers? If so, I won't sign up there. I mean that tells me they might take longer than expected for a payout if one was so lucky. 5 whole dollars is laughable.

    The bad part is the city of Portsmouth, Va. a neighboring city to where I live (crime ridden there) has signed a contract with this company to build their casino to be completed sometime in 2022. I think that will be the first in Va, but 4 more are approved, 2 by an Indian tribe Pawmunkey, i may have the spelling wrong. I don't think they will be using BetRivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hehfest View Post
    Here in Michigan, took the 250 max 100% bonus, also did the 1500/500 risk free bets at Pointsbet to the max. Do I really feel like I have to take them all out? Just my enemies. Next, I will say hello to William Hill and the 2,021 risk free bet. Outside of them, I'm not seeing many great bonuses as of yet. FanDuel's bonus sucks. I thought DraftKings had something but don't think its great either.

    Point has had some great promos like every day I log in and bonus $'s are in account. William Hill has a few decent ones but nothimg like rivers and DK. Fandual is the worst for promo today all i took was the free $10 ingame parlay bet from them.

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    Maybe Michigan has different rules on gambling promotions.

    Some states will make it illegal to offer any bonuses to signup eventually. As it encourages new people to start gambling.

    Promotions that "encourage you to gamble more money than you otherwise would" will also get outlawed in many places eventually too.

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    Illegal to offer bonuses???? where ? in Alabama?

    where do u come up with this nonsense?

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    betrivers is one of the best,they even have a debit card for your payouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibetyouadollar View Post
    betrivers is one of the best,they even have a debit card for your payouts.
    Do you live in a state with a Betrivers physical place or did you get it online?
    They will have their own casino in Va. next year.

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    Rivers is a Kambi book ala Draftkings, Barstool and some others. Some decent specials, but not that impressive. Horrible app. IMO they should be a last out, not a primary one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongBall52 View Post
    Are you saying this was at BetRivers? If so, I won't sign up there. I mean that tells me they might take longer than expected for a payout if one was so lucky. 5 whole dollars is laughable.

    The bad part is the city of Portsmouth, Va. a neighboring city to where I live (crime ridden there) has signed a contract with this company to build their casino to be completed sometime in 2022. I think that will be the first in Va, but 4 more are approved, 2 by an Indian tribe Pawmunkey, i may have the spelling wrong. I don't think they will be using BetRivers.
    Yes at Bet Rivers.

    This started happening about a month ago. Every bet I attempted at the time I like to make my bets (7am- usually $20) went for approval. Bet Rivers is using AI-Kambi. But it doesn't happen after 9am. So if I want convenience, the line may move on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibetyouadollar View Post
    betrivers is one of the best,they even have a debit card for your payouts.
    they have that "Rush Pay" that is just that they are the only one where I can do a withdrawl and it hits bank next day. Even weekend withdrawls hit Monday. DK takes lke 3 days for WH and Point 2 days Fandual 1-2 Days. Just wish they would get a better APP as its the worst of the 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    they have that "Rush Pay" that is just that they are the only one where I can do a withdrawl and it hits bank next day. Even weekend withdrawls hit Monday. DK takes lke 3 days for WH and Point 2 days Fandual 1-2 Days. Just wish they would get a better APP as its the worst of the 5
    If their app is WORSE than MGM, they won't make it! The worst website ever for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Maybe Michigan has different rules on gambling promotions.

    Some states will make it illegal to offer any bonuses to signup eventually. As it encourages new people to start gambling.

    Promotions that "encourage you to gamble more money than you otherwise would" will also get outlawed in many places eventually too.

    They are pounding people with the whole responsible gambling and do you have a gambling problem hotline phone numbers every time you log out or go to the main page. Its everywhere. They really do mention it constantly. As far as the promotions, they offer "risk free bets" for people. Up to 2,021 at William Hill for example. And Pointsbet offered 2 risk free bets of 500 and 1500. If you lose they put it into the "free bets" or "free play" category. So, you have to win it back into your account.

    In my opinion, Pointsbet is pretty good so far. $1 per $100 bet goes into your account as more free play money. They offered me a 350 let it rip bet free play the first week I was there, and then another 50 buck let it rip the second day I was there.

    I still like offshore better I think because I can get the 100% deposit match at some very solid books but of course there is that big rollover with that. Here, I met my Pointsbet cashout withdrawal available nearly within one day. I didn't even look to see the promotional rollover rules. So, it was almost nothing.

    As far as the promotions to encourage.....I understand your points and slightly agree, but this stuff is all over the TV on commercials. They have local sports shows on TV sponsored by FanDuel talking about betting and who to bet, etc. I don't think this is going to stop at all (promotions).

    I also think these books like Pointsbet are very fair to any bettor giving them many chances to win back money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    they have that "Rush Pay" that is just that they are the only one where I can do a withdrawl and it hits bank next day. Even weekend withdrawls hit Monday. DK takes lke 3 days for WH and Point 2 days Fandual 1-2 Days. Just wish they would get a better APP as its the worst of the 5

    I requested Pointsbet to my bank account early morning near midnight one night (almost $3,200 (2k deposit). They paid me by 5 p.m. the same day, or it might have been the following day. Either way, not too bad. I lost my 250 for 250 @ BetRivers.

    I haven't tried Draft Kings yet. Are they offering a good deposit match for larger amount? I've only found 250 for 250 at BetRivers. Everyone else has risk-free bets or like FD (they offer 15 or 20% deposit match up to 5k). The FD one sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hehfest View Post


    They are pounding people with the whole responsible gambling and do you have a gambling problem hotline phone numbers every time you log out or go to the main page. Its everywhere. They really do mention it constantly. As far as the promotions, they offer "risk free bets" for people. Up to 2,021 at William Hill for example. And Pointsbet offered 2 risk free bets of 500 and 1500. If you lose they put it into the "free bets" or "free play" category. So, you have to win it back into your account.

    In my opinion, Pointsbet is pretty good so far. $1 per $100 bet goes into your account as more free play money. They offered me a 350 let it rip bet free play the first week I was there, and then another 50 buck let it rip the second day I was there.

    I still like offshore better I think because I can get the 100% deposit match at some very solid books but of course there is that big rollover with that. Here, I met my Pointsbet cashout withdrawal available nearly within one day. I didn't even look to see the promotional rollover rules. So, it was almost nothing.

    As far as the promotions to encourage.....I understand your points and slightly agree, but this stuff is all over the TV on commercials. They have local sports shows on TV sponsored by FanDuel talking about betting and who to bet, etc. I don't think this is going to stop at all (promotions).

    I also think these books like Pointsbet are very fair to any bettor giving them many chances to win back money.
    Pointsbet is an Australian company. Vastly different attitude to bookmaking than the UK ones.

    What I described is what the responsible gambling stuff eventually morphs into in other mature jurisdictions.

    Not a biggie really, but make hay whilst the sun shines with the bonuses.

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    take all promos and then play offshore

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    take all promos and then play offshore
    So far the promos are never-ending and impressive. Offshore needs to step it up.

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    so only one I do not have is bar stool and they are way behind it seems. No promotions anywhere. Anytime I log into any of my sociial or email accounts ads pop up for every one but Bar Stool. they need to step up. Im waiting for a link or something WTH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    so only one I do not have is bar stool and they are way behind it seems. No promotions anywhere. Anytime I log into any of my sociial or email accounts ads pop up for every one but Bar Stool. they need to step up. Im waiting for a link or something WTH!
    Are you joking? Barstool is the bomb! (in a good way). Endless promos.

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    TheScore has the best app and promos. Can use fingerprint to login. MGM and rivers fastest withdrawals. Mgm was in my account when I woke up. I requested it when I went to bed. Unibet slow withdrawals. DK bad. Didn't win anything on pointsbet to try w/d. Haven't tried will hill yet. Opened fan duel but never deposited and then apparently my account was hacked. I left it alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaWoj View Post
    TheScore has the best app and promos. Can use fingerprint to login. MGM and rivers fastest withdrawals. Mgm was in my account when I woke up. I requested it when I went to bed. Unibet slow withdrawals. DK bad. Didn't win anything on pointsbet to try w/d. Haven't tried will hill yet. Opened fan duel but never deposited and then apparently my account was hacked. I left it alone.
    Who is The Score affiliated with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaWoj View Post
    TheScore has the best app and promos. Can use fingerprint to login. MGM and rivers fastest withdrawals. Mgm was in my account when I woke up. I requested it when I went to bed. Unibet slow withdrawals. DK bad. Didn't win anything on pointsbet to try w/d. Haven't tried will hill yet. Opened fan duel but never deposited and then apparently my account was hacked. I left it alone.
    Mugsy777 has waited a week for a payment to clear from MGM. See the MGM thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    so only one I do not have is bar stool and they are way behind it seems. No promotions anywhere. Anytime I log into any of my sociial or email accounts ads pop up for every one but Bar Stool. they need to step up. Im waiting for a link or something WTH!
    Barstool has really good promotions may want to check again. First bet is risk free as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilfred View Post
    Barstool has really good promotions may want to check again. First bet is risk free as well.
    Yeah, Barstool doesn't really advertise but they are going all out with promos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Are you joking? Barstool is the bomb! (in a good way). Endless promos.
    In Illinois they are just getting in market and they are easily the #6 since no promotion at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    In Illinois they are just getting in market and they are easily the #6 since no promotion at all
    Who cares if they advertise. Instead, they are putting money into great customer promotion giveaways. And now I'm in their MVP program with all kinds of crazy giveaways. Just awesome. I'm actually glad I'm down there a little at the moment. Keep them happy for now before I come back on them. Trust me, join and enjoy all the free money giveaways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Who cares if they advertise. Instead, they are putting money into great customer promotion giveaways. And now I'm in their MVP program with all kinds of crazy giveaways. Just awesome. I'm actually glad I'm down there a little at the moment. Keep them happy for now before I come back on them. Trust me, join and enjoy all the free money giveaways.
    no one even knows they opened shop in Illinois outside the die hard guys like us....In Illinois In order its DK-FD-Rivers-Point-WM and a city block behind bar stool


    thats my point no one knows about the promo when all you hear is crickets about them....even if you google u cant find a link to site LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    no one even knows they opened shop in Illinois outside the die hard guys like us....In Illinois In order its DK-FD-Rivers-Point-WM and a city block behind bar stool


    thats my point no one knows about the promo when all you hear is crickets about them....even if you google u cant find a link to site LOL
    They do a lot on twitter and stuff like that. I don't know how many are playing there, but if not, people are missing out. I guess they love me because I'm giving them action. Got a VIP guy already throwing reload bonuses and party offers at me.

    The overs promotion is really incredible. Free 1.5 points? That's incredible. I've already had 2 matter.

    For the record, their base lines are exactly the same as DK and BR. It's only the promos that separate them, and for now Barstool is standing out on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Pointsbet is an Australian company. Vastly different attitude to bookmaking than the UK ones.

    What I described is what the responsible gambling stuff eventually morphs into in other mature jurisdictions.

    Not a biggie really, but make hay whilst the sun shines with the bonuses.

    The bonuses aren't all that great. Putting a your risk free bet right into the free bet category so you have to win your money back? That sucks. These aren't really good deals. But, I like my 100% cash bonuses offshore. Even with that roll. Back to offshore I go very soon.

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    all the legal PA sports books have advantages and disadvantages. Rivers and Sugarhouse will often process a wd into your banking account the next day. I have a feeling the era of great promos may be starting to lag a bit on most of these shops but that could not last forever. I wagered for many years off shore and put up with annoying rules and regulations and concerns that I no longer deal with.

    IMO, legal state books are the way to go. no need to be concerned about changing rules, changing bonus structure, the fear of bankruptcy, pain in the ass deposit/wd, asshole customer service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dante1 View Post
    all the legal pa sports books have advantages and disadvantages. Rivers and sugarhouse will often process a wd into your banking account the next day. I have a feeling the era of great promos may be starting to lag a bit on most of these shops but that could not last forever. I wagered for many years off shore and put up with annoying rules and regulations and concerns that i no longer deal with.

    Imo, legal state books are the way to go. No need to be concerned about changing rules, changing bonus structure, the fear of bankruptcy, pain in the ass deposit/wd, asshole customer service.
    this 100% !!!!!

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