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    Skybook Adding a Condition to an Election Prop and Misgrading

    This is very frustrating. Skybook had the following two-way line:

    YES - GOP WINS BY 280+ ELECTORAL VOTES
    NO - GOP WINS BY 280+ ELECTORAL VOTES

    That's it - no other conditions listed. I bet NO, and they graded it a push. Now they are saying that it's a no bet because Trump didn't win. But that's not what the bet says. It asks if the GOP will win by 280+, yes or no? Very simple. Since that didn't happen, No should win. I couldn't get anywhere with them on the phone because they kept saying it was obvious that GOP has to win. When I asked them where it says that, they said "Well, we can't list every condition on the site." I thought that was pretty funny.

    BetOnline and Bookmaker both had the same language and both graded it correctly.

    Also, the odds were -1950. If GOP winning were a condition, then the odds would have been MUCH better. As it is, Skybook's odds were much more expensive than market price. I bet it there because I had some winnings and figured I'd place an election bet rather than withdraw.
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    That makes no sense. They need to pay you.

    Yes - Steelers win by 14+
    No - Steelers win by 14+

    If the Steelers lose the game it doesn't make it a push

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    Obvious a misgrade, given the odds. If the odds on No were -200, you might argue another interpretation. But at -1950, it's clear they meant a landslide win. They need to fix and pay you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vampire assassin View Post
    Obvious a misgrade, given the odds. If the odds on No were -200, you might argue another interpretation. But at -1950, it's clear they meant a landslide win. They need to fix and pay you.
    See, to me the odds are secondary. What matters most to me is what the line says in plain English. English is how we communicate intention with each other. If you intend your line to mean something other than what it says, then you need to use different and/or more words.

    They also had this Yes/No two-way line listed for all possible D & R win margin ranges (e.g. YES/NO Dems win by 210-279) - the exact same format from Bookmaker.
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    Take the push, you can still lose.

    That bet is IF the gop wins, is it with 280+ or less.

    7 states have sent Alternate delegations for Trump- you would lose if they get certified.

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    Trump did win

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    it seems like a mistake in making that available I dont follow the stuff but winning by 280 electoral votes is kinda insane isnt it, like that was never gonna remotely happen right

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    it seems like a mistake in making that available I dont follow the stuff but winning by 280 electoral votes is kinda insane isnt it, like that was never gonna remotely happen right
    It's not a mistake. Many books offered it and the odds were dumb because there was a lot of inexperienced MAGA money out there. In fact, it's pretty clear that Skybook copied these particular lines from Bookmaker. As I said earlier, Skybook's odds were actually WORSE than other books. I got -1000 at some places. PredictIt had this market too. Definitely not a mistake.
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    oh ok

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    Did you file a complaint yet? It's total horseshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acquavallo View Post
    Take the push, you can still lose.

    That bet is IF the gop wins, is it with 280+ or less.

    7 states have sent Alternate delegations for Trump- you would lose if they get certified.
    So much absurdity in this post it gave me a headache.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    it seems like a mistake in making that available I dont follow the stuff but winning by 280 electoral votes is kinda insane isnt it, like that was never gonna remotely happen right
    That's why it was -1950. The bet is a win and should be paid.

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    Dont ever bet with skycrook again

    bottom line.

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    Some of these lower level books try and get away with stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478 View Post
    So much absurdity in this post it gave me a headache.
    Can you discuss this like a real man instead of a sniffling snowflake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    it seems like a mistake in making that available I dont follow the stuff but winning by 280 electoral votes is kinda insane isnt it, like that was never gonna remotely happen right
    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post

    It's not a mistake. Many books offered it and the odds were dumb because there was a lot of inexperienced MAGA money out there. In fact, it's pretty clear that Skybook copied these particular lines from Bookmaker. As I said earlier, Skybook's odds were actually WORSE than other books. I got -1000 at some places. PredictIt had this market too. Definitely not a mistake.





    Yep. Alternate & very extreme lines were offered. I wanted to take the biggest Trump winning margin offered, HOWEVER, as the win margin increased the odds offered DECREASED. So poor value, the books agreed \ had done their homework well. (Esp if you agree that without the widespread cheating Trump actually carried some ten other States (the 7 in dispute plus others not formally disputed like Minnesota, Virginia, NH, etc.)

    And in addition to poor value (at bet time), there was the additional negative prospect of prolonged legal protest "by whoever lost" holding up bet settlement indefinitely. Esp. if contrarily, it was Biden protesting: even with Trump at say, 400 electoral votes- the biased media would've refused to call Trump President-elect until the actual swearing-in.

    Bottom line re the final official Electoral count is two things, irregardless of one's political ideology, which is off-topic for THIS thread:

    1. All the disputed states have the same reasons and evidence, so IIFFF one state is flipped, all will more than likely (or at least enough to flip the winner).
    2. IIIIFFFFF SO, then how do they flip:
    A. State(s) Vote totally voided = zero votes or redo election (latter highly unlikely this instance ). If 3 or more of the states in question suffer this, no one gets the necessary 270 votes and the vote guess to the US House.
    B. State(s) Vote flipped to Trump.
    A. Is unlikely- would be unconstitutional- but it's possible; and Trump wouldn't complain after ultimately winning in special House vote + Biden wouldn't be able to reverse the flip with any appeal.

    B. Is likelier BUT not in the bag though- the Supremes could punt for fear of riots, in combination with- Congress the never-Trump Repubs + the China-bought Repubs (like McConnell for one) could side with the Dems. It would be unconstitutional and could technically be appealed to the Supremes (for disregarding States' Electoral delegations- the second groups sent each Assembly- but having already punted once before, those prospects would be dim.

    Ehhh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acquavallo View Post
    Can you discuss this like a real man instead of a sniffling snowflake?
    Yea, a sniffling snowflake who understands math. You don't seem to know any such thing.

    Even IF your ludicrous nonsense 7 state thing happens, Trump would need 424 electoral voters to cover a -280 spread. Dumb has no political affiliation.

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    You are definitely correct.

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    What happened to OP? Hasn't posted in forever... he was every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
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    Hello - I did submit a complaint form and haven't received a response. I've also replied directly to the confrimation email I received. Can someone please check on this for me?

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