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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Not "really" as the bet you made did actually lose.

    But the small odds you got are a bit confusing.

    No reason you can't enquire with the state regulator though. I can find that email for you if you can't.

    I'd just email them and say you "think there was an error in the bet offering. As although you did not understand the way this Euro handicap worked at the time, you think the odds of +100 for your team to score within 6 mins to half time created the confusion and where obviously incorrect for that bet. Can they look into this for you."

    Optional if you can provide me with that email it would be great. Who knows if Tennessee even has somewhat of a gaming commission as this place is new to legalized sports betting.

    Thanks for your help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volvader View Post


    Optional if you can provide me with that email it would be great. Who knows if Tennessee even has somewhat of a gaming commission as this place is new to legalized sports betting.

    Thanks for your help
    email@tnlottery.com

    It will be interesting to see how they cope with player complaints.

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    my advise is to be nice and contact them via chat. explain that you where confused on the European handicap format of that market even ask why they would not list it as Asian in non confrontational way and ask for a them to void them bet and credit back. I'd bet ya they will and or worse case free play for the $200

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    my advise is to be nice and contact them via chat. explain that you where confused on the European handicap format of that market even ask why they would not list it as Asian in non confrontational way and ask for a them to void them bet and credit back. I'd bet ya they will and or worse case free play for the $200
    Gonna be as kind as possible and explain the situation. Dealing with a commission that has only had legal betting in the state for 2 weeks so we will see how it ends up. I would be content with just voiding the bet and crediting 200 to my account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volvader View Post
    Gonna be as kind as possible and explain the situation. Dealing with a commission that has only had legal betting in the state for 2 weeks so we will see how it ends up. I would be content with just voiding the bet and crediting 200 to my account.
    Just deal w FanDuel first my experience with their CS has been good...be cool and explain and i think they will help u out void or free play it

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    Any news?

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    This was FanDuel response.

    The market included a draw option for the spread, since the margin was exactly 1, the draw market is the winner, and selection on either teams are marked as losers in this situation. If there was no draw option, then the wager would push but this wager is graded correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volvader View Post
    This was FanDuel response.

    The market included a draw option for the spread, since the margin was exactly 1, the draw market is the winner, and selection on either teams are marked as losers in this situation. If there was no draw option, then the wager would push but this wager is graded correctly.
    thats correct grading. Did you play the ignorant card and ask for a break and a void? They may or may not but worth a shot

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    its correctly settled, but the odds were wrong and probably very hard to even find.

    if it really was -1 for HALF TIME, then u had 6 mins for Turkemnistan +1200 kick off price to score a goal for +100.

    Why you even took it im not sure, even if it pushed its still bad bet... the good bet would have been "draw-1" and you nearly double up if no goal 6 mins. but then everyone here would start crying you are a shot taker, scammer, should be void.

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    I think he took it because he thought if the score stayed 1-0 that it was a winner.

    I donít really bet soccer but I occasionally peruse the markets on there. They seem to offer trap lines on these.

    Right now they are offering 3way first half line on USA-1/draw-1/Panama+1

    At 2 min mark (0-0)
    +100/+100/-120

    At 5 min mark (0-0)
    +100/+100/-145

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    Right after my post Panama scored I guess, but this market offering is pretty fishy. Keep moving the Panama line as it gets stronger but leave the other lines that get weaker the same.

    New odds at 16 min (0-1)
    USA+1/draw-1/Panama-1
    +100/+100/+100

    19 min (1-1)
    USA-1/draw-1/Panama+1
    +100/+100/-195

    23 min (2-1)
    USA-1/draw-1/Panama+1
    +100/-170/+100

    29 min (3-1)
    USA-2/draw+2/panama+2
    +100/-230/+100

    39 min (3-1)
    USA-2/draw+2/panama+2
    +100/-430/+100

    43 min (3-1)
    USA-2/draw+2/panama+2
    +100/-1400/+100
    Last edited by bleedblue; 11-16-20 at 03:30 PM.

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    ok I loaded it up and yeah it says 1st half panama -1.

    So +1 usa should win as long as they dont concede, I have no idea.

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    now at 1-1 it is correct.

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    and at 2-1 it is correct.

    looks like when dog is ahead, its wrong odds.. because at 0-1 you could have had USA to hold that for +100.

    Or take Panama -1 at bad value of +100 to win by 2, like the op did

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    Cashin, Iím not really sure what you are saying. The odds are correct, but they are grifting unsophisticated bettors with poor odds, adjusting the odds that improve, and poor wording as to what the bets mean.

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    first half 3 way euro handicaps, right now..

    panama +2 +900 b365

    Fanduel +2 +100

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    USA v PanamaLIVE


    Panama +2
    +100

    1ST HALF SPREAD 3-WAY (NO PUSH)



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    TO WIN$



    USA v PanamaLIVE

    Panama +2
    +100

    1ST HALF SPREAD 3-WAY (NO PUSH)



    WAGER$
    TO WIN$


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    so panama the dog has 10 mins for +100, if im not drunk

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    theres no edge for player, you can only lose if you take that like the op.

    +2 1st half is 16/1 365... still +100 fanduel, but -2 and draw is correct.

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    Ok. I get what you are saying.

    Basically they are offering +100 on the lines that are dogs (sometimes massive dogs) and adjusting the 3rd line so it is also unprofitable for the player.

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    PARLAY

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    Stake all straights
    USA v PanamaLIVE

    USA -1
    +100

    2ND HALF SPREAD 3-WAY (NO PUSH)



    WAGER$
    TO WIN$




    USA v PanamaLIVE

    Handicap Draw -1
    +100

    2ND HALF SPREAD 3-WAY (NO PUSH)



    WAGER$
    TO WIN$




    USA v PanamaLIVE

    Panama +1
    +100

    2ND HALF SPREAD 3-WAY (NO PUSH)



    WAGER$
    TO WIN$






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    so USA to win the second half by 2 or more goals, is +100 here.

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    RAIGHT

    Sporting Gijon v Rayo VallecanoLIVE

    Sporting Gijon -1
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    44th min, match is 0-0 and we have Sporting Gijon to win by 2 goals in the 1st half @ +100

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    Can someone explain how this ethical behavior?

    29 min (3-1)
    USA-2/draw+2/panama+2
    +100/-230/+100

    39 min (3-1)
    USA-2/draw+2/panama+2
    +100/-430/+100

    43 min (3-1)
    USA-2/draw+2/panama+2
    +100/-1400/+100

    So now some Joe casual flips on the game at the 40 min mark and wants to put a few $$ on the USA, and bets -2 at +100. He doesnít understand that -2 actually means -2.5. He bets it at +100 not realizing he is betting with a -90% edge.

    So again. How is this ethical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedblue View Post
    Right after my post Panama scored I guess, but this market offering is pretty fishy. Keep moving the Panama line as it gets stronger but leave the other lines that get weaker the same.

    New odds at 16 min (0-1)
    USA+1/draw-1/Panama-1
    +100/+100/+100

    19 min (1-1)
    USA-1/draw-1/Panama+1
    +100/+100/-195

    23 min (2-1)
    USA-1/draw-1/Panama+1
    +100/-170/+100

    29 min (3-1)
    USA-2/draw+2/panama+2
    +100/-230/+100

    39 min (3-1)
    USA-2/draw+2/panama+2
    +100/-430/+100

    43 min (3-1)
    USA-2/draw+2/panama+2
    +100/-1400/+100
    Those odds range from 50% overround up to 93% for the 43rd min odds.

    If it isn't a Fanduel error, it's grifting.

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    Sporting Gijon v Rayo VallecanoLIVE

    Rayo Vallecano -1
    +100

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    vallecano to win 2nd half by 2 or more, you guessed it our old friend +100, 10/1 b365.
    +1 and draw lines are correct. Only the MINUS on 1st half euro and second half euro, are always wrong.

    I tried OP, 200 is still alot.

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    vallecano to win is +240, but to win by 2 goals is +100

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    I spoke with the FanDuel representative and told him that I had to be betting a bad line at +100 and that at minimum an +1100 underdog to win the final 6 minutes of a half should be nowhere close to being +100. I stated it was basically a free roll on the books part as someone who isnít educated about European odds wouldnít have thought twice about that line.

    It took me 5 days to even receive an answer from FanDuel as I had to physically call them again and asked what their response was.

    I told the guy I was like youíre literally free rolling uneducated bettors at a +100 line. He said if I could find proof that the line wasnít accurate then I have a case.

    Someone define grifting for me please.

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    I have yet to reach out to the TN Lottery board yet over this issue. I did play it dumb with FanDuel and said at minimum this bet should be void because I bet a bad line. He stated itís graded as it says.

    Note to everyone donít bet a three way European odds match with 6 minutes left lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedblue View Post
    Can someone explain how this ethical behavior?

    29 min (3-1)
    USA-2/draw+2/panama+2
    +100/-230/+100

    39 min (3-1)
    USA-2/draw+2/panama+2
    +100/-430/+100

    43 min (3-1)
    USA-2/draw+2/panama+2
    +100/-1400/+100

    So now some Joe casual flips on the game at the 40 min mark and wants to put a few $$ on the USA, and bets -2 at +100. He doesnít understand that -2 actually means -2.5. He bets it at +100 not realizing he is betting with a -90% edge.

    So again. How is this ethical?
    Right, that is my exact issue and they feel their is nothing wrong with that as I brought that up and their response says itís stated. Screwed a casual bettor Rilke me who was probably willing to dump them money week after week but feel like at minimum they could void the bet and refund.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volvader View Post
    I spoke with the FanDuel representative and told him that I had to be betting a bad line at +100 and that at minimum an +1100 underdog to win the final 6 minutes of a half should be nowhere close to being +100. I stated it was basically a free roll on the books part as someone who isn’t educated about European odds wouldn’t have thought twice about that line.

    It took me 5 days to even receive an answer from FanDuel as I had to physically call them again and asked what their response was.

    I told the guy I was like you’re literally free rolling uneducated bettors at a +100 line. He said if I could find proof that the line wasn’t accurate then I have a case.

    Someone define grifting for me please.
    There is proof in this thread.

    Send him a link and ask him to look at the examples posted for the USA v Panama match above.





    I think it is just a technical error though, not intentional.

    Fanduel don't need to trick/cheat people.


    Hopefully as soon as they see the example they will realize what is wrong.

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    lol its just broken, but you should never have taken it! every game the same.


    STRAIGHT

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    Why even place a wager on a 3 way draw option -1 , +1

    Why bet -1
    You have to win by -1.5 to cash the wager
    You cant push on the -1 line
    So why not bet -1.5
    You get better odds im sure.

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    Listen I didnít realize what I had bet until it was over. When it wasnít graded a win I was confused. So how many other casual Joeís like me betting that with terrible odds and not realizing.

    Listen I know I would have never bet an +1100 underdog to win the final 6 minutes of the half if that was how I knew it was gonna be graded. I mean +100 is just nonsense.

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