[boxing bettor]

Well that’s a meaningful reply lol.

[jedihyoju]

I have used the for years. I won’t be using them anymore! Normal books occasionally move the line while your making a bet. Betonline literally moves it every time I make a bet against me never in my favor. So I tried to bet the other way and the other side does not change which is a red flag. So if you want the dog the odds go down but if you bet the favorite you get the old line. Even when the bet is the next day and these are Not steam moves. They are a shady company and you would do good to avoid avoid them especially if your winning with them. They will try to recoup their money by changing the line - Stay away.

SO ARE YOU BASICALLY SAYING BETONLINE MOVES ODD ACCORDING TO YOUR ACTION?

ARE YOU BILLY WALTERS'S DADDY?

[pimike]

Well that’s a meaningful reply lol.

If you are a USA guy and bet big and like fast payouts then don’t stay stay away.

Solid huge out with little restrictions. I got all books doing this to me on occasions. Deal with it.

[boxing bettor]

No what I’m implying is they are moving my line - I don’t suspect my plays are moving their line lol. Basically they always move it like 3 to 10 cents. It’s a good way to insure someone loses in the long run.

[HedgeHog]

BOL is doing some questionable things with their lines. There's another thread on this with several people stating that they can't get their bets accepted at the line offered. Here's my experience with BOL's sister book Low Vig as posted in that thread:

"I am experiencing this more and more at Low Vig, sister book of BOL. I try betting a game at -120 and it won't let me. It says the reason for this is because the line is now -123. My bet has been adjusted to -123 and I now have the option to accept or decline at that price. I decline (cancel bet) and refresh the lines. It still shows -120, so I try again and the same thing happens. So I refresh again and the line remains at -120 for the bet I want, with the other side at Even. So I try a minimum bet at Even and it takes it! Next I refresh again and see -120 still and try again to bet it but can't. It continues to reset the bet to -123. Several minutes later the line does indeed change to -123 with the other side at +103. So if this is just a delay problem, why isn't the other side being adjusted to the new line as well, meaning that I should have received the updated +103 line on my bet instead of Even. This long delay is crooked, and I fail to see how it is helping the"average Joe". Only the book is benefitting from this dishonest line offering."

[boxing bettor]

I have never had a book do that to me every time I make a bet and I use many books. I have had books reduce my limits but not the shit their doing.

[bubba]

BOL is doing some questionable things with their lines. There's another thread on this with several people stating that they can't get their bets accepted at the line offered. Here's my experience with BOL's sister book Low Vig as posted in that thread:

"I am experiencing this more and more at Low Vig, sister book of BOL. I try betting a game at -120 and it won't let me. It says the reason for this is because the line is now -123. My bet has been adjusted to -123 and I now have the option to accept or decline at that price. I decline (cancel bet) and refresh the lines. It still shows -120, so I try again and the same thing happens. So I refresh again and the line remains at -120 for the bet I want, with the other side at Even. So I try a minimum bet at Even and it takes it! Next I refresh again and see -120 still and try again to bet it but can't. It continues to reset the bet to -123. Several minutes later the line does indeed change to -123 with the other side at +103. So if this is just a delay problem, why isn't the other side being adjusted to the new line as well, meaning that I should have received the updated +103 line on my bet instead of Even. This long delay is crooked, and I fail to see how it is helping the"average Joe". Only the book is benefitting from this dishonest line offering."

I have the same exact issue /things you describe. Does the same shadyness occur on the mobile version?

[boxing bettor]

Exactly when you try to bet the other way. You get the old line and they accept it. It’s amazing stupid people continue to use them and accept these changes. I have never seen this at any other Sportsbook. It’s a good thing they have people like Pimike who don’t care about fairness or making money.

[HedgeHog]

I have the same exact issue /things you describe. Does the same shadyness occur on the mobile version?

I only use my PC for betting at BOL and LV, so I don't know for sure. But I suspect that this "flaw" is built into their betting platform and would occur with any device you use.

[boxing bettor]

Well this got moved to a different thread even those they are different. I don’t believe this is just a refresh issue. It’s manipulation of the lines to increase their earnings.

[HedgeHog]

Well this got moved to a different thread even those they are different. I don’t believe this is just a refresh issue. It’s manipulation of the lines to increase their earnings.

Yes, your thread was merged into this one. FWIW, your title was more descriptive of what's happening.

[Optional]

Well this got moved to a different thread even those they are different. I don’t believe this is just a refresh issue. It’s manipulation of the lines to increase their earnings.

Yes, your thread was merged into this one. FWIW, your title was more descriptive of what's happening.

I don't believe they move every line against you as boxing bettor has described. It's the same anti-steam measures he is talking about I'd say. Too many people here use BOL, and too many sharps and big bettors. If it was a thing more people than a sus looking account created 3 years ago but not used until today would be yelling about it loud and clear.

[boxing bettor]

They absolutely did yesterday in UFC every fight I bet and I bet a lot of them. They even did it on a soccer game I bet for today last night. Believe what you want and it’s not anti steam at all. I do all my own handicapping. Look they advertise on this site for all I know you are Betonline. It seems strange that someone would be offended by reporting a real problem. No I’m not a frequent poster but that does not invalidate my claim. Your clearly very bias which is what is really suspicious.

[TheBigD]

How do you know they moved from +160 to +162?

Because every odds screen says so.
If a book moves it's number from +150/-170 to +155/-175 then the +155/-175 is the CURRENT LINE.

This BOL sorcery has made it so that +150/-175 is the CURRENT LINE for 3-5 minutes.

In my case last night, I wanted +162 on the dog. The money was gradually coming in on the favorite. Betting the dog in this case is not "steam chasing" LOL. Do you even know what that is Optimal?

This fraud on the part of BOL affects everyone! It doesn't matter how much someone is betting or sharp or square or black, white, or Asian. Everyone gets screwed by this equally.

If BOL were operating in a regulated jurisdiction they would be facing sanctions and large fines for this behavior.

[boxing bettor]

Because every odds screen says so.
If a book moves it's number from +150/-170 to +155/-175 then the +155/-175 is the CURRENT LINE.

This BOL sorcery has made it so that +150/-175 is the CURRENT LINE for 3-5 minutes.

In my case last night, I wanted +162 on the dog. The money was gradually coming in on the favorite. Betting the dog in this case is not "steam chasing" LOL. Do you even know what that is Optimal?

This fraud on the part of BOL affects everyone! It doesn't matter how much someone is betting or sharp or square or black, white, or Asian. Everyone gets screwed by this equally.

If BOL were operating in a regulated jurisdiction they would be facing sanctions and large fines for this behavior.

You are exactly right - they should be facing large fines. They are definitely using a software manipulation program. It’s Amazing to me there are any defenders. It’s really not defendable but we have a moderator defending them. Some people don’t care about getting ripped off. Some people believe everything a company tells them. They are probably the same people that think Trump never lies lol.

[bubba]

I don't believe they move every line against you as boxing bettor has described. It's the same anti-steam measures he is talking about I'd say. Too many people here use BOL, and too many sharps and big bettors. If it was a thing more people than a sus looking account created 3 years ago but not used until today would be yelling about it loud and clear.

I agree. They arent moving every line purposely against a better. But if line is -125/+105 and they move line to -130/+110 badness is occurring. -125/+105 will still appear. If you try to bet +105 it happily accepts the wager. if you try to bet -125 it tells you new line is -130. This has been happening long enough, that I kind of hope its on purpose. If they are unaware this is going on/unable to fix it that is a different kind of scary.

[boxing bettor]

I agree. They arent moving every line purposely against a better. But if line is -125/+105 and they move line to -130/+110 badness is occurring. -125/+105 will still appear. If you try to bet +105 it happily accepts the wager. if you try to bet -125 it tells you new line is -130. This has been happening long enough, that I kind of hope its on purpose. If they are unaware this is going on/unable to fix it that is a different kind of scary.

I don’t understand your post - your hoping they are purposely trying to screw bettors and it’s not an accident?? To me it would be better if somehow they were not aware of it even though I know that’s probably not the case.

[bubba]

I don’t understand your post - your hoping they are purposely trying to screw bettors and it’s not an accident?? To me it would be better if somehow they were not aware of it even though I know that’s probably not the case.

Manipulation is horrible. I agree. However being unaware of it/unable to fix it over the last month would be such incompetence it is possibly worse was my point.

[Fishhead]

When you see the line move on DB it takes around 3 minutes for that change to take place at BOL itself.

For example, the current line is:

Red Sox +120
Yankees -140

Now all of a sudden the DB feed shows a line change:

Red Sox +125
Yankees -145

However, the new lines are impossible to bet. The refresh button doesn’t adjust anything. Refreshing the browser doesn’t adjust anything. Logging out and back in doesn’t adjust anything.

Eventually (roughly 3 minutes) it adjusts itself to the line shown on the DB feed.

During this frustrating 3 minutes, you most certainly are allowed to bet the +120. But there’s no chance of getting +125. So even though they may want action on +125, they aren’t getting it.

This has been happening since March and across the BOL/SB/Lowvig platforms. When will this be fixed? It is extremely frustrating.

I’ll say it again - BOL is so close to being an upper tier book at the Pinnacle & Bookmaker level. But  like this holds them back.

BAUS

DITTO on all the above

[vampire assassin]

I am experiencing this more and more at Low Vig, sister book of BOL. I try betting a game at -120 and it won't let me. It says the reason for this is because the line is now -123. My bet has been adjusted to -123 and I now have the option to accept or decline at that price. I decline (cancel bet) and refresh the lines. It still shows -120, so I try again and the same thing happens. So I refresh again and the line remains at -120 for the bet I want, with the other side at Even. So I try a minimum bet at Even and it takes it! Next I refresh again and see -120 still and try again to bet it but can't. It continues to reset the bet to -123. Several minutes later the line does indeed change to -123 with the other side at +103. So if this is just a delay problem, why isn't the other side being adjusted to the new line as well, meaning that I should have received the updated +103 line on my bet instead of Even. This long delay is crooked, and I fail to see how it is helping the"average Joe". Only the book is benefitting from this dishonest line offering.

I have experienced this as well, and for a long time.

[BAUS]

I believe this began around March 10, 11, 12 roughly. Shortly before basketball was paused. At first I thought it was a glitch, but then after awhile it became apparent that it was created on purpose.

BAUS

[bubba]

Backing up my theory that this is probably incompetence in fixing a glitch, it appears to me the issue is not occurring on the mobile site. I see the correct line when I look on my phone, and incorrect on my laptop. Not a defense, and I am sure if this glitch was costing them juice it would have been fixed much sooner.

[GradyFuson]

"Glitch" still not fixed.

[pretentiousGuy]

So mobile is the way to go on BOL?

[HedgeHog]

"Glitch" still not fixed.

I think we all know by now that it's not a glitch. BOL added a long delay function that benefits them and screws the client.

[SBR Forum]

Just a heads up, we were advised this was fixed.

[GradyFuson]

Just a heads up, we were advised this was fixed.

Yes I "think" it is fixed. Only took a shade under 3 months. Probably thanks to Optional's continued support of players in this industry, what a legend, thanks mate!

[DontTailMe]

This never really affected me but great to hear they listened to the feedback.

[HedgeHog]

Just a heads up, we were advised this was fixed.

How do you "fix" something that wasn't ever really broken. BOL was caught in very shady line offerings that lasted 3 months. They actually cheated the "squares" that took the bad side of their intentional delay, because their bets were accepted. The rest of us were just inconvenienced waiting for the real line to be available. Shame on BOL for fukking the average Joe out of getting the correct odds on their wagers.

[DontTailMe]

You don't know that it was intentional. In computer programming, a seemingly unrelated coding change over here can have unintended, surprising effects somewhere else, which make complete sense once you troubleshoot the problem.

The important thing is that they fixed it.

[HedgeHog]

You don't know that it was intentional. In computer programming, a seemingly unrelated coding change over here can have unintended, surprising effects somewhere else, which make complete sense once you troubleshoot the problem.

The important thing is that they fixed it.

A "glitch" that benefits them only and they left uncorrected for 3 months. Sure, it's unintentional.....

[caramba]

In my experience, too often imcompetence is mistaken for other things such as greed and companies are given too much credit. Anyway, I'm happy if this issue is now sorted so thanks to those here who have brought this up and thanks SBR for communicating with BOL on this.

[DontTailMe]

A "glitch" that benefits them only and they left uncorrected for 3 months. Sure, it's unintentional.....

We'll never know for sure. What we do know is that they fixed it rather then leave it there.

[Miz]

BOL and sister books will let you bet into a stale line if it benefits them so in BAUS example, it will accept RedSox +120 but not Yankees -140, after the line has moved to +125/-145. All confirmed multiple times.

Refreshing the mobile site does indeed refresh the lines though to display the updated version, so you can test this theory and confirm for yourself. Mobile site betting is the best workaround for this but refresh right before you bet.

Do it for yourself... bring up desktop on computer and use your phone. No matter how you refresh browser or hit little refresh button it won't update on desktop, but will stop you from getting yankees -140, while not updating at confirmation for red sox +120 when you should get +125

I love BOL, best book ever. Really wish they would fix this though.

[Optional]

I love BOL, best book ever. Really wish they would fix this though.

They have fixed it.

Just a heads up, we were advised this was fixed.