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    @DontTailMe

    I had withdrawn $3k in BTC on Mar 10, before the NBA shutdown, so I didn't know to use MGRAM. Any MGRAM only $450 max withdrawal now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyivan24 View Post
    @DontTailMe

    I had withdrawn $3k in BTC on Mar 10, before the NBA shutdown, so I didn't know to use MGRAM. Any MGRAM only $450 max withdrawal now.
    Okay, I didn't realize that a BTC payout counted as your one "free" withdrawal per month. That's weird since it's already free. Sorry man. I'd personally wait for a free one at those rates, but I guess it depends on how much confidence you have in the BetPhoenix family making it through these times.

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    not sure why charged $45, they only charged me $30 for **

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyking View Post
    not sure why charged $45, they only charged me $30 for **
    Because they have different tiers of fees based on how much you are withdrawing.

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    It's so lame they can only do $450 MAX per MGRAM. I checked with MGRAM and they can do up to $10k per transfer too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyivan24 View Post
    It's so lame they can only do $450 MAX per MGRAM. I checked with MGRAM and they can do up to $10k per transfer too.
    It's been around that max for P2P withdraws at every book for many years now.

    They know how it works and are doing the maximum sustainable amount possible via that system.

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    Requested another $450 MGRAM withdrawal and eating another $45 fee.
    I will wait and see when tehy process.

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    It is a shame, to pay 450usd in 450usd a balance of 4K and to receive a 10% of fee. Scammers.


    Rating B????

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    They do pay 2K via check

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketMan$$$ View Post
    They do pay 2K via check
    Unable for Canada unfortunately. My only option is MGram. In the past, I used to deposit and withdraw via BTC, but they removed BTC option.

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    Well that is a tough way to get funds out.

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    It takes 3 months to pay 4K and continue with a b rating, is it a joke?

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    BETPHOENIX not paying me now. I got an email below

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    Hello Mr XXXXXX


    The option to send *********** to Canada is not available since our processor can't send to your country about the Bitcoin option we will try to put it back anytime soon.


    kind Regards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyivan24 View Post
    BETPHOENIX not paying me now. I got an email below

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    Hello Mr XXXXXX


    The option to send *********** to Canada is not available since our processor can't send to your country about the Bitcoin option we will try to put it back anytime soon.


    kind Regards.
    What about a BW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    What about a BW?
    I only see MGRAM option

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyivan24 View Post
    I only see MGRAM option
    That will take forever and very costly. ** could cut you off with all those transactions.

    Not good

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    I can't even with draw with MGRAM... There last response was "The option to send *********** to Canada is not available since our processor can't send to your country about the Bitcoin option we will try to put it back anytime soon."

    I doubt they will offer bitcoin, it's just a stall tactic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyivan24 View Post
    I can't even with draw with MGRAM... There last response was "[FONT="]The option to send *********** to Canada is not available since our processor can't send to your country about the Bitcoin option we will try to put it back anytime soon."

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    [FONT="]I doubt they will offer bitcoin, it's just a stall tactic. [/FONT][FONT="][/FONT]
    I tend to agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyivan24 View Post
    I can't even with draw with MGRAM... There last response was "The option to send *********** to Canada is not available since our processor can't send to your country about the Bitcoin option we will try to put it back anytime soon."

    I doubt they will offer bitcoin, it's just a stall tactic.
    If they are offering you zero options, please send in a sportsbook complaint form and we can ask a manager to review the situation for you.

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/


    Has to be a lot of Canadians playing there. Surely there would be more people mentioning this if there is no option left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyivan24 View Post
    I can't even with draw with MGRAM... There last response was "The option to send *********** to Canada is not available since our processor can't send to your country about the Bitcoin option we will try to put it back anytime soon."

    I doubt they will offer bitcoin, it's just a stall tactic.
    I do believe that they will add BTC back, but it will be a long time from now. They're obviously trying to make it more difficult and/or costly to withdraw, just as all books are with their new weekly limits and such.

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    I received MGRAM today for $450 max, paid $45 fee. It took 3 days.

    At this rate I'm gonna lose $400~500 in fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyivan24 View Post
    I can't even with draw with MGRAM... There last response was "The option to send *********** to Canada is not available since our processor can't send to your country about the Bitcoin option we will try to put it back anytime soon."

    I doubt they will offer bitcoin, it's just a stall tactic.
    Yeah I find it extremely hard to believe they can't send to Canada. The process is exactly the same as sending to the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyivan24 View Post
    I received MGRAM today for $450 max, paid $45 fee. It took 3 days.

    At this rate I'm gonna lose $400~500 in fees.

    Yeah the fees are high as hell and BS.

    Also be careful doing too many MGs too quickly..

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    How many money grams is safe to do within a span of a month?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Coffee View Post
    Yeah the fees are high as hell and BS.

    Also be careful doing too many MGs too quickly..

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    I tried to process a 3rd MGRam request for 3 straight week. Crossing fingers.

    It looks like BetPhoenix have removed their LIVE CHAT now, not a good sign.

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    Live Chat is available..

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyivan24 View Post
    I tried to process a 3rd MGRam request for 3 straight week. Crossing fingers.

    It looks like BetPhoenix have removed their LIVE CHAT now, not a good sign.
    Still there for me, both when logged in and out. If it doesn't appear for you, try logging out. It always appears for me when I'm logged out.

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    I called BetPhoenix multiple times. They make excuse they cannot pay bitcoin and I have reached my max MGRAM payout. I've only withdrawn twice in last 1 month. I'm optimistic.

    I tried emailing SBR a couple times for help, but no response. I even filled out their SBR form a couple weeks ago, no response.

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    Yep, difficult to get hold of someone on live chat these days

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    Today - I spoke to a nice lady at Payments. I requested $3k amount, and leaving some small balance there as good faith.

    I will wait to see if/when they process withdrawal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyivan24 View Post
    Today - I spoke to a nice lady at Payments. I requested $3k amount, and leaving some small balance there as good faith.

    I will wait to see if/when they process withdrawal.
    What was the payout method please?

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    Received BTC $3k from BetPhoenix on April 13. I requested this withdrawal several times since mid-March,but they keep making excuses bitcoin was not available, but FINALLY I spoke to a Payments Rep on April 8 and she submitted my $3k request ...

    I couldn't keep paying for tiny amounts (max $450 only) via MGram which cost $45 fee(!), and they told me I had reached my limit (already done twice in March for MGram)

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    Submitted a cashout today... was told the following:

    Chris: "Sir I am afraid that at ths time BTC payouts are not being processed ."
    Me: "why is that"
    Chris: "We do understand your concern but at this time due to the virus VTC has affected this PO option."
    Chris "I am sorry BTC= Bitcoin."
    Chris "The processors that we use to send the BTC payouts."
    Chris "Those are very limited at this time . "

    Me: "so, what are my options?"
    Chris: "In this case **, or you could also request a ***********."
    Chris: "** is limited to $450.00."
    Chris: "And Moneyorders you could do up to $2,000.00. up to $4,000.00 in increments of $500.00.

    Chris: "Fees will be deducted from your balance sir."
    Me: "what fees?"
    Me: "i understood that there was one free withdrawal per month"
    Chris: "$45.00 for ** and for the *********** it will be $50.00"
    Chris: "I am sorry at this time those will be the fees for your request."

    ...so...no more free withdrawals each month...

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    Yep. Both my 2x M-GRAM withdrawals was charged a $45 fee, lol.

    But I was thankful to get the $3k BTC withdrawal. I bugged them 3 or 4 times a week, so persistence does pay off. I also spoke to someone in PAYMENTS DEPARTMENT. I suggest you do the same.

    Cheers,

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