1. 06-04-19 05:26 PM #1
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    Pinnacle and their "suspicious betting activity" policy

    I’ve never had this issue happen with Pinnacle until today. I bet on an Australian CS:GO match, Genuine vs Rooster, and won the bet. Afterwards, it turns out Pinnacle has voided the bet for “suspicious betting activity”.


    Has this ever happened to anyone? This is the first time it’s happened to me and I can’t help but feel cheated that it was when I was suppose to win the bet. What does “suspicious betting activity” even mean? Couldn’t you use that excuse for literally any event?

    It seems silly that they alone declare matches as being fixed without further investigation. What if the game wasn’t fixed to begin with? What if it’s just people seeing value and betting accordingly?

    The problem with the eSports market is that the liquidity is so low for some of the matches that a single person with a few hundred dollars could move the line if they wanted to. With how off Pinnacle can be on their eSports odds sometimes, this actually happens very often. I've even done it myself before. Are you telling me all it takes is a few hundred bucks for a match to be deemed as suspicious?

    In my opinion, this was a legitimate match that took place, and I was just one of the bettors that took advantage of some very good perceived value. Instead of taking the loss for setting a bad line, Pinnacle has voided the bet to save themselves a couple of bucks.

    I am aware that many of you aren't familiar with eSports or CS:GO, so please do some research before reaching any conclusions. In my opinion:

    https://www.hltv.org/matches/2333926...n-31-australia

    This was a very expected result. Looking at past results you'll quickly find out that Rooster has been blown out in almost every single of their matches this season. The only win they have is against an even worse team, Fanta, that has also been blown out in all of their matches. The issue with the ESEA MDL Australian league has always been the massive skill disparity between the teams in the league. When you consider that to get into MDL, you just have to be one of the top teams of the Open league in Australia (which all teams start out in) it is no wonder that this always happens. For people like me who understand this, it is an easy way to find value when bookies set bad lines. For comparison, in order to get into the North America ESEA MDL league, you have to reach the top of four other divisions.

    https://www.hltv.org/results?team=9881

    When you also consider the fact that the Rooster team replaced one of their players halfway through the season:

    https://www.hltv.org/player/17307/sm...tab-matchesBox

    Is it really that "suspicious" that the odds moved from 1.23 to 1.09?

    https://i.imgur.com/KhaVPMO.png

    Is it really that hard to imagine that somebody (or multiple people) found some value and placed a few hundred bucks and moved the line accordingly?

    I'm sorry if you guys don't understand this. It just seems like I did some adequate research and got burnt.
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  2. 06-06-19 01:05 AM #2
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    I had it happen on a Challenger Tennis match earlier this year where Pinnacle voided a winning bet due to suspicious betting activity. Something triggered it, whether it was excessive money wagered for the event at hand, or where the money was wagered from etc. It is what it is and I moved on because occasionally it does happen in less liquid events and I don't feel like they were targeting winning wagers. I know nothing of e-sports but if you are asking if anyone has had this happen to them, then yes I have.
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  3. 06-06-19 04:27 AM #3
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    Funny how its always winning bets voided. IMO its bullshit. If you have a long standing account with Pinnacle, just because you ran into a "possibly dodgy game" by chance, it shouldnt mean they cancel bets.

    If its a brand new account with a huge bet then of course they should investigate it, but not an established account with many bets over many months/years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dealer wins View Post
    Funny how its always winning bets voided. IMO its bullshit. If you have a long standing account with Pinnacle, just because you ran into a "possibly dodgy game" by chance, it shouldnt mean they cancel bets.

    If its a brand new account with a huge bet then of course they should investigate it, but not an established account with many bets over many months/years.
    It's not always winning bets voided, they void the full market. I've had losing bets voided as well.
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  5. 06-06-19 05:09 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfa1234 View Post
    It's not always winning bets voided, they void the full market. I've had losing bets voided as well.
    So you think that they void a full market that Pinncacle won on? Never happen...........
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  6. 06-06-19 09:52 AM #6
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    I had in this year three times winning bets was voided... all bets on greek basketball.
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    How many times did they void a losing bet?
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  8. 06-06-19 10:50 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfa1234 View Post
    It's not always winning bets voided, they void the full market. I've had losing bets voided as well.
    I am a huge fan of Pinny, but in my 15 years I have had about 30 bets voided, every single one was a winning one.
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  9. 06-06-19 12:08 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn Dick View Post

    So you think that they void a full market that Pinncacle won on? Never happen...........
    Can you come up with one post from anyone who has ever claimed that someone else had a winning bet cancelled, and their losing bet on the same market was not?


    There is at least 100 threads just like this one on SBR. I've seen plenty of people confirm losing bets were also cancelled and never seen a soul show a losing ticket that was not voided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom R. View Post
    I had in this year three times winning bets was voided... all bets on greek basketball.
    I placed bets on Greek basketball too and had some voids as well. 2 of them losing bets.

    Also had some bets stay ungraded for over 24 hours. After contacting them they said they were "investigating the activity". They all got settled correctly after (winning and losing bets, some on tennis, some Austrian baskbetball).

    All in all I have to say I am not happy about this at all...the total faith I once had in Pinnacle that I would always get paid no matter what (unless it was a palp error) has strongly been eroded and if I can avoid placing bets there I do. I wish they would simply pay the bets and find some other way to deal with issues of fixed games like immediately reduce limits or simply suspend betting as soon as they detect something weird going on.
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  11. 06-06-19 01:48 PM #11
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    Can you come up with one post from anyone who has ever claimed that someone else had a winning bet cancelled, and their losing bet on the same market was not?


    There is at least 100 threads just like this one on SBR. I've seen plenty of people confirm losing bets were also cancelled and never seen a soul show a losing ticket that was not voided.
    Yes, of course.
    But I think Pin voided all bets (win and lose) in case, when players won too much, but Pin lose too much...
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    For example bets on Home spread on Aris and Total Under in Romania was voided:

    16:45 Aris - Panionios 79:56
    18:00 Galati - Voluntari 62:68


    2019-02-02 16:45 / Aris Thessaloniki BC - Panionios BC / / : ()
    Greece - A1
    P1 P2 F1 F1_K F2 F2_K T TM TB Time
    -7.5 1.926 +7.5 1.926 14:59:17
    -7.5 1.806 +7.5 2.06 146.5 1.806 2.06 15:01:13
    -7.5 1.806 +7.5 2.06 146.5 1.813 2.05 15:05:14
    -7.5 1.87 +7.5 1.99 146.5 1.813 2.05 15:11:12
    -7.5 1.87 +7.5 1.99 146.5 1.752 2.14 15:29:20
    -7.5 1.87 +7.5 1.99 146.5 1.84 2.02 15:31:08
    -8.5 1.926 +8.5 1.926 145.5 1.806 2.06 16:27:04
    -8.5 1.926 +8.5 1.926 145.5 1.893 1.962 16:29:16
    -8.5 1.926 +8.5 1.926 145.5 1.787 2.09 17:39:17
    -8.5 1.926 +8.5 1.926 145.5 1.826 2.04 17:41:20
    -8.5 1.926 +8.5 1.926 144.5 1.917 1.935 18:23:13
    -8.5 1.926 +8.5 1.926 144.5 1.943 1.909 18:25:12
    -8.5 1.826 +8.5 2.04 144.5 1.943 1.909 19:47:21
    -8.5 1.862 +8.5 1.99 144.5 1.943 1.909 19:49:10
    -8.5 1.862 +8.5 1.99 144.5 1.943 1.909 20:33:16
    1.23 4.44 -8.5 1.862 +8.5 1.99 144.5 1.943 1.909 22:11:12
    1.23 4.44 -8.5 1.84 +8.5 2.02 144.5 1.943 1.909 22:45:18
    1.23 4.44 -8.5 1.84 +8.5 2.02 144.5 1.893 1.962 22:47:09
    1.23 4.44 -8.5 1.84 +8.5 2.02 144.5 1.84 2.02 23:13:19
    1.23 4.44 -9 1.917 +9 1.935 143.5 1.917 1.935 01:17:16
    1.256 4.13 -9 1.98 +9 1.877 143.5 1.917 1.935 01:33:13
    1.256 4.13 -9 1.943 +9 1.909 143.5 1.917 1.935 01:37:08
    1.256 4.13 -9 1.935 +9 1.917 143.5 1.917 1.935 02:05:05
    1.231 4.42 -9 1.935 +9 1.917 143.5 1.917 1.935 03:11:10
    1.198 4.91 -9.5 1.935 +9.5 1.917 143.5 1.917 1.935 04:07:10
    1.186 5.12 -10 1.962 +10 1.893 143.5 1.917 1.935 04:39:07
    1.186 5.12 -10 1.909 +10 1.943 143.5 1.917 1.935 04:41:11
    1.186 5.12 -10.5 1.943 +10.5 1.909 143.5 1.917 1.935 06:11:12
    1.186 5.12 -10.5 1.943 +10.5 1.909 143.5 2.04 1.826 06:33:13
    1.186 5.12 -10.5 1.943 +10.5 1.909 144.5 1.943 1.909 06:35:12
    1.164 5.58 -11 1.98 +11 1.877 144.5 1.943 1.909 10:13:17
    1.145 6.07 -11 1.98 +11 1.877 144.5 1.943 1.909 10:21:18
    1.142 6.15 -11 1.962 +11 1.893 144.5 1.943 1.909 10:43:13
    1.142 6.15 -11 1.962 +11 1.893 144.5 1.943 1.909 10:47:19
    1.138 6.26 -11 1.935 +11 1.917 144.5 1.943 1.909 13:46:21
    1.127 6.6 -11.5 1.935 +11.5 1.917 144.5 1.943 1.909 14:00:21
    1.127 6.6 -11.5 1.935 +11.5 1.917 144.5 1.926 1.926 14:40:18
    1.122 6.8 -11.5 1.893 +11.5 1.962 144.5 1.926 1.926 14:52:11
    1.122 6.8 -11.5 1.893 +11.5 1.962 146 1.926 1.926 14:58:20
    -14.5 1.855 +14.5 2 146 1.926 1.926 15:02:16
    -18.5 1.926 +18.5 1.926 146 1.926 1.926 15:04:22
    -20 1.926 +20 1.926 146 1.926 1.926 15:06:09
    -18.5 1.962 +18.5 1.893 146 1.926 1.926 15:08:16
    -18 1.909 +18 1.943 146 1.926 1.926 15:10:10
    -18 1.917 +18 1.935 146 1.926 1.926 15:12:11
    -18 1.926 +18 1.926 146 1.926 1.926 15:14:18
    -18 1.833 +18 1.833 146 1.926 1.926 15:16:08
    -18 1.735 +18 1.943 146 1.926 1.926 15:20:17
    -21.5 1.833 +21.5 1.833 146 1.926 1.926 15:22:08
    -21.5 1.84 +21.5 1.826 146 1.926 1.926 15:26:10
    -21.5 1.699 +21.5 1.99 146 1.926 1.926 15:40:15
    -24 1.833 +24 1.833 146 1.926 1.926 15:42:16
    -24 1.775 +24 1.893 146 1.952 1.901 15:44:07
    -24 1.806 +24 1.862 146 1.952 1.901 15:46:21
    -24 1.752 +24 1.926 146 1.952 1.901 15:48:09
    -24.5 1.833 +24.5 1.833 146 1.952 1.901 15:50:11
    -24.5 1.847 +24.5 1.82 146 1.952 1.901 15:52:14
    -24.5 1.862 +24.5 1.806 146 1.952 1.901 16:00:15
    -24.5 1.877 +24.5 1.794 146 1.952 1.901 16:16:09
    -24.5 1.833 +24.5 1.833 146 1.952 1.901 16:20:11
    -24.5 1.847 +24.5 1.82 146 1.952 1.901 16:30:09
    -24.5 1.855 +24.5 1.813 146 1.952 1.901 16:36:21
    -24.5 1.877 +24.5 1.794 146 1.952 1.901 16:44:11

    2019-05-19 18:00 / Phoenix Galati - CSO Voluntari / / : ()
    Romania - Division A
    P1 P2 F1 F1_K F2 F2_K T TM TB Time
    +14.5 1.833 -14.5 1.833 12:07:11
    +14.5 1.833 -14.5 1.833 164.5 1.833 1.833 12:08:17
    +14.5 1.671 -14.5 2.03 164.5 1.833 1.833 12:36:11
    +13 1.8 -13 1.87 164.5 1.833 1.833 12:58:13
    +13 1.8 -13 1.87 164.5 1.833 1.833 13:14:20
    +13 1.8 -13 1.87 164.5 1.833 1.833 14:10:19
    +14 1.82 -14 1.847 164.5 1.833 1.833 14:15:11
    +15.5 1.84 -15.5 1.826 164.5 1.833 1.833 14:18:15
    +15 1.806 -15 1.862 164.5 1.84 1.826 14:21:10
    +15 1.8 -15 1.87 164.5 1.84 1.826 14:27:12
    +15 1.833 -15 1.901 164.5 1.877 1.862 15:08:21
    +15 1.833 -15 1.901 162.5 1.794 1.952 15:33:19
    +15 1.833 -15 1.901 162.5 1.813 1.935 15:35:11
    +15 1.833 -15 1.901 162.5 1.813 1.935 16:10:17
    +15 1.833 -15 1.901 164 1.847 1.893 16:14:17
    +15 1.833 -15 1.901 164 1.909 1.833 16:16:16
    +15 1.833 -15 1.901 164 1.862 1.877 16:34:11
    +15 1.833 -15 1.901 162 1.794 1.952 16:38:13
    +15 1.833 -15 1.901 160 1.758 2 16:39:12
    +15 1.833 -15 1.901 154 1.909 1.826 16:40:09
    +15 1.833 -15 1.901 153 1.862 1.877 16:41:08
    +15 1.847 -15 1.758 151 2.4 1.441 16:43:13
    +15 1.847 -15 1.758 151 1.694 1.917 16:44:09
    +15 1.847 -15 1.758 151 1.625 2.02 16:45:14
    +15 1.847 -15 1.758 151 1.575 2.1 16:46:08
    +15 1.847 -15 1.758 151 1.455 2.36 16:47:07
    +15 1.847 -15 1.758 151 1.498 2.26 16:48:20
    +15 1.847 -15 1.758 151 1.575 2.1 16:53:04
    +15 1.662 -15 1.962 151 1.575 2.1 16:59:14
    +15 1.662 -15 1.962 151 1.413 2.48 17:08:18
    +15 1.662 -15 1.962 151 1.769 1.833 17:13:09
    +15 1.662 -15 1.962 151 1.654 1.971 17:14:07
    +15 1.662 -15 1.962 151 1.532 2.18 17:15:08
    +15 1.662 -15 1.962 151 1.331 2.78 17:17:19
    +15 1.662 -15 1.962 151 1.347 2.71 17:19:08
    +15 1.847 -15 1.758 151 1.347 2.71 17:20:13
    +15 1.714 -15 1.893 151 1.347 2.71 17:22:19
    +15 1.565 -15 2.12 151 1.347 2.71 17:23:05
    +15 1.565 -15 2.12 151 1.366 2.64 17:30:14
    +15 1.565 -15 2.12 151 1.452 2.37 17:51:15
    +15 1.565 -15 2.12 151 1.324 2.81 17:58:11

    who care if in during day come info about players roster and line became wrong?
    If you accept bets until start whistle, so pay winners.
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  13. 06-06-19 02:14 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom R. View Post
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    Yes, of course.
    But I think Pin voided all bets (win and lose) in case, when players won too much, but Pin lose too much...
    Oh, I get what you mean now.

    Difficult to know for sure either way.
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    And for example another 2 matches from Greek: home spread 1) -14.5 -> -30; 2) -16.5->-25.5->-19.5
    looks similar like in previous post... but here players lose and of course Pin don't voided bets.

    15:45 PAOK - Panionios 83:73
    16:45 PAOK - Kolossos Rhodes 79:83

    2019-04-10 15:45 / PAOK Thessaloniki - Panionios BC / / : ()
    Greece - A1
    P1 P2 F1 F1_K F2 F2_K T TM TB Time
    -14.5 1.87 +14.5 1.87 156.5 1.862 1.877 18:51:20
    -16 1.877 +16 1.862 156.5 1.862 1.877 19:11:14
    -16 1.877 +16 1.862 156.5 1.862 1.877 19:55:07
    -16 1.794 +16 1.952 156.5 1.862 1.877 20:12:13
    -16 1.794 +16 1.952 156.5 1.862 1.877 03:46:18
    -16 1.794 +16 1.952 156.5 1.862 1.877 06:48:13
    -16 1.833 +16 1.99 156.5 1.901 1.917 07:52:14
    -16 1.877 +16 1.935 156.5 1.901 1.917 07:56:17
    -16 1.877 +16 1.935 156.5 1.901 1.917 09:50:16
    -16 1.952 +16 1.87 156.5 1.901 1.917 09:54:13
    -16 1.952 +16 1.87 156.5 1.917 1.901 10:08:09
    -16 1.952 +16 1.87 156.5 1.962 1.862 10:36:11
    -15.5 1.917 +15.5 1.901 156.5 1.962 1.862 10:46:21
    -15.5 1.926 +15.5 1.893 156.5 1.962 1.862 11:22:19
    -14 1.98 +14 1.84 156.5 1.962 1.862 11:44:15
    -14 1.971 +14 1.847 156.5 1.962 1.862 11:48:11
    -14 1.962 +14 1.862 156.5 1.962 1.862 11:50:09
    -14 1.952 +14 1.87 156.5 1.962 1.862 11:58:11
    -14 1.952 +14 1.87 155.5 1.971 1.847 12:12:10
    -14 1.935 +14 1.885 155.5 1.971 1.847 12:22:08
    -14 1.935 +14 1.885 156.5 1.943 1.877 13:02:11
    -14 1.935 +14 1.885 156.5 1.99 1.84 13:06:09
    -14 1.935 +14 1.885 158 1.952 1.87 13:07:15
    -14 1.935 +14 1.885 157.5 1.909 1.909 13:11:13
    -14 1.935 +14 1.885 157.5 1.909 1.909 13:48:05
    -14 1.926 +14 1.893 157.5 1.909 1.909 13:59:14
    -15 1.926 +15 1.893 157.5 1.909 1.909 14:22:21
    -15 1.971 +15 1.847 157.5 1.909 1.909 14:24:16
    -15 1.935 +15 1.885 157.5 1.909 1.909 15:02:06
    -15 1.962 +15 1.862 157.5 1.909 1.909 15:04:10
    -20 1.8 +20 1.8 157.5 1.909 1.909 15:06:14
    -25 1.826 +25 1.775 157.5 1.909 1.909 15:08:16
    -26 1.926 +26 1.69 157.5 1.909 1.909 15:10:17
    -27.5 1.862 +27.5 1.741 157.5 1.909 1.909 15:12:13
    -27.5 1.769 +27.5 1.833 157.5 1.909 1.909 15:14:20
    -27.5 1.813 +27.5 1.787 157.5 1.909 1.909 15:16:06
    -28.5 1.8 +28.5 1.8 157.5 1.909 1.909 15:24:18
    -28.5 1.746 +28.5 1.855 157.5 1.909 1.909 15:29:11
    -28.5 1.769 +28.5 1.833 157.5 1.909 1.909 15:33:15
    -30 1.862 +30 1.741 157.5 1.909 1.909 15:35:15
    -30 1.952 +30 1.671 157.5 1.909 1.909 15:37:19
    -30 1.952 +30 1.671 157.5 1.926 1.893 15:39:17
    -30 1.855 +30 1.746 157.5 1.926 1.893 15:41:16
    -30 1.935 +30 1.685 157.5 1.926 1.893 15:43:15
    -30 1.962 +30 1.662 157.5 1.926 1.893 15:45:19

    2019-04-20 16:45 / PAOK Thessaloniki - Kolossos Rhodes / / : ()
    Greece - A1
    P1 P2 F1 F1_K F2 F2_K T TM TB Time
    -16.5 1.87 +16.5 1.87 157.5 1.87 1.87 19:15:16
    -16.5 1.82 +16.5 1.926 157.5 1.87 1.87 19:33:15
    -16.5 1.82 +16.5 1.926 157.5 1.926 1.82 19:39:17
    -17.5 1.84 +17.5 1.901 157.5 1.926 1.82 20:44:18
    -17.5 1.84 +17.5 1.901 157.5 1.952 1.794 20:48:15
    -19.5 1.885 +19.5 1.855 157.5 1.952 1.794 20:56:13
    -19.5 1.901 +19.5 1.84 157.5 1.952 1.794 20:58:16
    -18.5 1.862 +18.5 1.877 157.5 1.952 1.794 21:00:11
    -17.5 1.855 +17.5 1.885 157.5 1.952 1.794 21:10:10
    -18.5 1.813 +18.5 1.926 157.5 1.952 1.794 22:34:13
    -18.5 1.962 +18.5 1.787 157.5 1.952 1.794 22:36:16
    -18.5 1.877 +18.5 1.862 157.5 1.952 1.794 04:30:20
    -20.5 1.877 +20.5 1.862 157.5 1.952 1.794 10:56:16
    -20.5 1.901 +20.5 1.84 157.5 1.952 1.794 10:58:06
    -19.5 1.833 +19.5 1.901 157.5 1.952 1.794 11:00:14
    -20.5 1.794 +20.5 1.952 157.5 1.952 1.794 11:04:05
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  15. 06-06-19 06:13 PM #15
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    This Greek game:

    https://www.oddsportal.com/basketbal...#ah;1;-11.50;0

    Was also voided.

    Spread went from -12.5 to -27. Game ended 104-67, all bets voided including my losing bets.
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  16. 06-06-19 07:02 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfa1234 View Post
    It's not always winning bets voided, they void the full market. I've had losing bets voided as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn Dick View Post
    So you think that they void a full market that Pinncacle won on? Never happen...........
    When Pinnacle voids a market they post an announcement that continuously displays for days at the top of the betting screen.
    Its impossible to miss. I've seen it many times. So yes they void both winning and losing wagers of the market.

    If you think they are shady don't complain, just withdraw and never play with them again.

    I have confidence in Pinnacle and will stay a customer.
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  17. 06-07-19 02:32 AM #17
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    "Suspicious betting activity" ...yes , this happened to me at Pinnacle about two years (or 3, I do not remember exactly) ago. It was a tennis match, Dolgopolov vs some player (probably) from South America.
    Dolgopolov was favourite first (odds probably 1.3 or so), but thru the day the odds were changing so much that in the end the opposite player was favourite. Though the odds were chaging continously (increasing on Dolgo all the time)- Pinnacle did not stop accepting bets at once, but only (maybe) 1-2 hours before the match had to start.

    I placed a bet at Pinnacle on the South Am. player and the opposite bet at Betfair (as an arbitrage bet). It was played on Sunday (if I remember correctly), Betfair graded my bet as lost same day, but Pinnacle was waiting till Wednesday or Thursday and then "deemed the bet as no bet" (cancelled and the stake returned back). I lost some 1 500 EUR.

    Pinnacle had to see "the suspicious activity" before the match started. If they cancelled it before its start - OK, I would understand that and do something with my pending bet at Betfair, to lower my loss there. But they were waiting till the match ends - if Dolgopolov would win - I believe the bets would be graded normally (as the crowd was betting on the opposite player) and Pinnacle would earn nice money...
    But to wait till the end of the match and then further 3-4 days to cancel it - I considered that as very unfair from Pinnacle (though still the best bookie around).

    The tennis match was then under some review as suspicion for a fixing...
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