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    Jazz Sports

    Got a call from them out of the blue offering a $25 free play. I used to use them ages ago. Decent book if I recall.

    Any info on them these days? Safe site? Any trouble with payouts?

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    Been using some information coming from them.

    They are becoming one of the first to move books around.

    They are currently sharp as if not sharper than the market in general.

    Still a decent book as far as I can tell.

    They are in Costa Rica I think so SBR should do a site visit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay View Post
    Got a call from them out of the blue offering a $25 free play. I used to use them ages ago. Decent book if I recall.

    Any info on them these days? Safe site? Any trouble with payouts?
    BigJay, if I may, what is the site url that is making the offer to you?

    Is it these guys?

    https://www.jazzsports.ag/home

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Been using some information coming from them.

    They are becoming one of the first to move books around.

    They are currently sharp as if not sharper than the market in general.

    Still a decent book as far as I can tell.

    They are in Costa Rica I think so SBR should do a site visit.

    ...They literally copy pinnacle almost to a tee in line movement...reactive not proactive...


    @OP They have the best teaser payouts (last I looked). Decent option but again hardly ever find them having the best odds with Pinnacle access. Also low maximum for bitcoin withdrawals ($1000). Not high enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglesfan371 View Post
    ...They literally copy pinnacle almost to a tee in line movement...reactive not proactive...
    I disagree. In fact this is not true.

    We have been able to see issues moving first at Jazz, before the rest of the market is reporting, including Pinny.

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    They might eventually try to align with Pinny, but as far as reporting some trades off of movement, they are indicating first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    I disagree. In fact this is not true.

    We have been able to see issues moving first at Jazz, before the rest of the market is reporting, including Pinny.
    I will watch the lines between them closely tomorrow in MLB. Besides MLB though, they really aren't competitive imo. Full juice everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglesfan371 View Post
    I will watch the lines between them closely tomorrow in MLB. Besides MLB though, they really aren't competitive imo. Full juice everything else.
    One example, first game Monday, MIL/PHI...

    Here's Pinny according to SBR odds...

    05/13 09:16 AM +133 -144
    05/13 09:10 AM +140 -152
    05/13 08:51 AM +147 -160


    Here's Jazz...
    05/13 09:11 AM +129 -144
    05/13 09:10 AM +132 -147
    05/13 09:10 AM +140 -155
    05/13 09:09 AM +144 -159
    05/13 08:55 AM +147 -162





    Pinny opened first but those moves to -159 and -155 came before the pinny report of -152.

    This issue first started reporting as moving at Jazz.

    Here's a service that has the seconds it reported...

    Pinny...

    5/13/19 6:16:18 AM +133 -144
    5/13/19 6:10:58 AM +140 -152
    5/13/19 5:51:48 AM +147 -160
    And Jazz...

    5/13/19 6:10:23 AM +140 -155
    5/13/19 6:09:50 AM +144 -159
    5/13/19 5:55:05 AM +147 -162
    Watch for those types of indicators of movement.
    It's what I'm talking about.



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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    They might eventually try to align with Pinny, but as far as reporting some trades off of movement, they are indicating first.
    Interesting

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    Been around forever

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    I use looselines mostly for horses at times as they have a good daily rebate and good track selection. The sports side I am not a huge fan of as markets are limited esp in parlays but one they do offer prices are competitive. They are a solid and trusted book and payout out BTC fast BUT limit to 1K per day

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    They are a decent book as I used them as my 3rd option. One of a few that still takes ** deposit. However, a few months ago they got hacked and didn't even infomed us as we found out by emails from the hacker(s). Recently, they improved security and have a decent payout verification process. Btw Mark @ CS is one of the best and been in the biz for awhile. He's very helpful and knows a lot.

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    Another interesting thing is they don't count live wagering for r/o. Heritage and Bovada, and even the lowly sports book.ag, have it count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    i use looselines mostly for horses at times as they have a good daily rebate and good track selection. The sports side i am not a huge fan of as markets are limited esp in parlays but one they do offer prices are competitive. They are a solid and trusted book and payout out btc fast but limit to 1k per day
    this

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    BigJay, if I may, what is the site url that is making the offer to you?

    Is it these guys?

    https://www.jazzsports.ag/home
    Yes. It was them KVB. They called and offered $25 free play and wanted to update my contact info/address. It’s been about a decade since I played with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Interesting
    Have you heard of Buckeye?

    Betbuckeyesports?...https://www.betbuckeyesports.com/

    The front page is like a shell.

    What do we know of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Have you heard of Buckeye?

    Betbuckeyesports?...https://www.betbuckeyesports.com/

    The front page is like a shell.

    What do we know of them?
    Credit book only

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post

    Have you heard of Buckeye?

    Betbuckeyesports?...https://www.betbuckeyesports.com/

    The front page is like a shell.

    What do we know of them?
    What Frank said.

    HonestAbe said he was playing there at one point but have heard nothing about it apart from from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    Credit book only
    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post

    What Frank said.

    HonestAbe said he was playing there at one point but have heard nothing about it apart from from him.


    I think buckeye has some sharp shit going on over there as well. Seems like them and Jazz have been hitting early.

    How would one get into Buckeye, or get an account? The site seems useless I linked above seems useless.

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    Don't know KVB.

    There is a phone number from 10 years ago listed here https://www.sportsbookreview.com/bet...buckeyesports/

    There is a Hushmail email address and a different phone number listed on the whois info https://who.is/whois/betbuckeyesports.com

    Maybe try PMing Abe.

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    Got in touch with buckeye. I will update tomorrow when I can get more info.


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    I used Jazz a little last year and got a nice bonus from them this year. The betting limits are pretty low though. Also, it appears that Bitcoin is the ONLY way to withdraw, although I deposited with cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    Credit book only
    What does "credit book only" mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Got in touch with buckeye. I will update tomorrow when I can get more info.

    Could you PM me contact info please?

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