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    Rethink your forum posts - it could cost you a lot of money...

    So I had this dispute with a book I don't want to name. They voided 5 different bet slips worth of 33k.

    6 months ago I contacted IBAS to review the case. Today I received their answer. One statement by the book really takes the cake. They say that a comment in a betting forum caused the betting company damage that exceeds the sum of one of the betslips (worth of 4,290 EUR). Therefore they had to void it and won't change their decision

    IBAS didn't want to comment on this, of course, because the argument as such is just obviously abstruse.

    If you assume that every negative public review causes a provable and quantifiable damage to a company don't you think all the companies in this world would sue the composers of the negative reviews? No court on this planet would accept that a simple negative review which is based on facts and which intends to inform the public about an issue can be considered as a justiciable defamation. Otherwise the court rooms would be full of legal cases about negative reviews. The internet is full of negative reviews. But the court rooms are not. Why not?

    Ridiculous.



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    excuse level 1000000000000000000 reached.
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    Surely it is so far away from their remit that they should not even consider the argument!
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    BTW this was the relevant betslip if someone wonders

    Last edited by lonnie55; 03-12-19 at 11:35 AM.

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    IBAS? never heard of them so they are like 3rd party dispute site for legal real sportsbooks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    IBAS? never heard of them so they are like 3rd party dispute site for legal real sportsbooks?
    only for those who are registered: https://www.ibas-uk.com/operators/re...tor-directory/

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    im wondering what if your bet lost, would the "bookie" in question ask you to pay the so called "damage done" ...hahah
    most bookies love it when players bet parlays/accumulator but they pi$$ their pants when you get a big win from a 100eur bet.

    @lonnie: can you post the other 4 betslips?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    IBAS? never heard of them so they are like 3rd party dispute site for legal real sportsbooks?
    Kind of. But a bit more like a legalized excuse maker for the UK bookmakers.

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    So it's safe to say IBAS is useless and the book is a scam. I'm curious as to what type of leverage IBAS has, must not be much. I think I see the problem, Operators pay a registration fee and the fee is based off of how many complaints IBAS receives. Good news is you can file an appeal with IBAS, bad news is the appeal goes to IBAS. WTF?
    Tough luck Lonnie. It would take everything I had not to name the book.





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    unreal gl lonnie hope its not a book I use

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    I didnt want to point out the obvious but by looking at the bet slip some of us already know which book it is....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyasports View Post
    @lonnie: can you post the other 4 betslips?
    https://imgur.com/a/aOjh9tf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyasports View Post
    I didnt want to point out the obvious but by looking at the bet slip some of us already know which book it is....
    It's actually pretty unknown. It's an EU based book with brick and mortar shops in Austria and Switzerland AFAIK. Licensed in Alderney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonnie55 View Post

    It's actually pretty unknown. It's an EU based book with brick and mortar shops in Austria and Switzerland AFAIK. Licensed in Alderney.
    What's the situation with IBAS now? Non UKGC books and players outside UK is normal for them now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    What's the situation with IBAS now? Non UKGC books and players outside UK is normal for them now?
    Do I need a GB Gambling Commission
    Licence to become registered?
    Initially, IBAS was designed to be restricted to
    British operators only, but we have considered
    and accepted many applications from operators
    licensed in territories included on the
    Commissionís White List and we will consider
    other applications based on their own merits.

    Source: https://www.ibas-uk.com/media/1076/ibas-2017.pdf (page 6)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PD77 View Post
    So it's safe to say IBAS is useless and the book is a scam. I'm curious as to what type of leverage IBAS has, must not be much. I think I see the problem, Operators pay a registration fee and the fee is based off of how many complaints IBAS receives. Good news is you can file an appeal with IBAS, bad news is the appeal goes to IBAS. WTF?
    Tough luck Lonnie. It would take everything I had not to name the book.
    Conflict of interest. IBAS punishing a sportsbook = NBA punishing referees who magically help an underdog team to win 1-2 games to prolong the playoff series.

    Everyone does what is good for business.

    To give another example, if you complain at an Air BnB host and they complain against you and it's your word against theirs. You have a very good chance to be banned from their website. Account suspended and no appeal. Because you are only small fish, a customer. Website makes money from hosts commissions. So your chance of winning such dispute = not very good.
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    This is ridiculous...can anyone tell me which bookie that is?

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    Unreal fuk thrm
    Why are you still playing at the Micky mouse shop
    No fuking balls

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    wow, just wow, never seen anything similar, not even with offshore US rogue shops

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    Ibass

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    Is that wirwetten?

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    so if you made good comments, you can share profits with a book?

    i really like william hill.

    i want at least 3k for this post
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    Have you given up or are you still trying other ways to solve this?

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