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    Bettor x

    What do you think of this guy? Do you think he even exists, or he’s just a story casinos are making up?

    If he actually exists, is he a time traveler?

    If he exists and isn’t a time traveler, is he a great bettor, or just lucky?

    He went 11-0 betting on the UFC. He then spent hundreds of thousands on each World Series game, no matter what the odds were. Even if the market odds were -110, he was willing to bet -140. He generally let it ride at most shops, meaning that he spent all his winnings from the previous game on the next game. In game 6, he spent $3 million and wanted more. Of course, he won games 1-6.

    He didn’t bet game 7, perhaps because he was getting too much attention. He then reappeared to bet on the Eagles in the Super Bowl- and won $6 million.

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    Time traveler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post



    http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id...uper-bowl-bets

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    I hope he leaves some money for the rest of us if he is a time traveler.

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    X gonna give it to ya

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    Billy W. operative.

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    back in the day when there were 1000 limits on ufc, joe rogan would win more money betting than he got paid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ph q all View Post
    Billy W. operative.
    This guy has a much better win % than Walters, albeit on a much smaller sample size of games.

    TBH, I suspect this whole story is made up. It all sounds fishy. Starting with the fact that the casinos don't ban him. Plus they never give the guy's actual name.

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    all BS

    Drama

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettingman6 View Post
    This guy has a much better win % than Walters, albeit on a much smaller sample size of games.
    Quote Originally Posted by bettingman6 View Post

    TBH, I suspect this whole story is made up. It all sounds fishy. Starting with the fact that the casinos don't ban him. Plus they never give the guy's actual name.

    look deeper into it....
    At least 5 bookmakers talked about him. So, unless you are suggesting they all got together for a coffee and decided to make this shit up, it is all true.
    Everything is confirmed by official NV Gaming Association numbers that are public for everyone to see.
    They lost their shit on:

    Category "other" which includes UFC, in month before WS. I think it shows a loss of $500k+

    On baseball in November when the tickets were cashed in. Loss of over $10M

    On SB.....record handle 158M. Casinos hold was only 0.7%, which is 1.17M. So, ALL casinos in NV combined won only 1.17M. Additionally they had to pay 0.25% tax on whole 158M handle. Leaving them with only about 700k in profit on SB. This figure also includes future bets. If only SB game itself was calculated they would prob be in minus. Many books reported huge loses and some reported barely breaking even(only because they counted future bets). Caesars, the only book that did not report taking any of his action, reported a Million $ win on SB. That means that ALL other NV books lost on SB

    Also, people don't know how to read....so that 6M figure on SB is wrong. If you read main espn article you will see that he PUT DOWN 6M. Odds were anywhere from +155 to +180.
    If he PUT DOWN 6M at 155 he would have won 9.3M.
    Espn story also does not include additional 1M at WilliamHill (they only mention 1M. But he had TWO 1M bets at WillHill). It also does not include all reported SouthPoint bets.
    If you include additional 1M at WH and little extra at SouthPoint....that would be around 7.5 down.......to win at least 11.6M.
    Important to know is that he wanted to put down 10M. Reported before the SB, and confirmed few days ago by Jay Rood(MGM) in live interview on visn. (great stuff. I will try to find it and post audio link.....he says guy came in on Monday after playoffs and wanted to put down 10M.....after serious consideration MGM decided to only take 3M.)
    He got at least 7.5M down. This is confirmed. Did he get additional 2.5 down? Nothing directly reported but....
    Stations Casino, that reported taking his action on UFC and WS, did not specifically report any of his SB action....but David Purdum(espn) wrote article in which he says he was watching SB with Stations head Bookmaker and.....bookmaker told him....that well known customer put down a big bet on a bad number on Eagles. Very likely this is Bettor X.
    So.....guy won at least 11.6M on SB alone. Likely, a few million more.

    I followed this story closely......and all this is documented online from respectable journalists with different sources and confirmed by bookies and most importantly by actual betting numbers by state of Nevada.

    All the books know the guy. It is against the law to reveal his name. It would be like a bank revealing a customers name or a big stock trading company revealing that some random customer bought millions in stock.
    That is private info and they could get sued coz there is actual law in nevada forbidding this. Also it would be bad for business if casinos went around and revealed names of wealthy people or celebrities who gamble.
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    They mention his wins but not his losses; WillHill took a sizable bet from him so you can be assured that he's a long-term loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHorseplayer View Post
    They mention his wins but not his losses; WillHill took a sizable bet from him so you can be assured that he's a long-term loser.
    https://www.fox5vegas.com/news/betto...c5b3b0e5b.html

    ""Not every sportsbook won. William Hill lost millions, thanks in part to two $1 million bets from "Bettor X."
    Nick Bogdanovich, the director of trading, said this is now the eighth time Bettor X decided to gamble. He wins every time.
    "We'll be just fine. No pity party for William Hill. We'll pay out the money and move on," Bogdanovich said. "Hats off to Bettor X."
    Bettor X came out of nowhere during last year's World Series to win millions. Nobody knows much about him. At the very least, if someone does, they're not talking.
    "I know his name, but I don't know anything about him," Bogdanovich said. "So far he's only won ... He could be the greatest gambler in the history of the world, or he could be the worst. We don't know. It's only eight bets." ""

    My theory is.... he was betting so unconventionally and wildly....and he clearly is not a "sharp" (whatever that means) or someone who looks at the numbers or whatever....they prob thought some dumb guy with money throwing bombs around and will eventually give it all back....so they let him do it. Also Jimmy Vacaro said the same thing "he never lost". Nobody reported any losses from him ever.....other then one ufc 100k bet. And also the last ws bet on game 6 and SB bet was reported BEFORE the game so....how would they know he will win.
    Other bookies, Jony from wynn and CGT guys also said "he never lost".

    Story checks out.....but it is incredible story and is understandable people are skeptical.

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    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/philadelphia-eagles-patriots-bettor-x-super-bowl-2018-money-line-point-spread-20180129.html

    ""Bookmaker Jimmy Vaccaro told the Associated Press that Bettor X hit Vegas hard during the Astros-Dodgers Fall Classic, which the Astros won in seven games.



    "He's one of the guys who was floating around betting all that money on the World Series," Vaccaro told the AP. "I don't think he lost a bet then; we'll see how he does now." ""


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    jonny avelo from Wynn

    WS
    "I had myself in some really terrific spots, just great, great positions," Johnny Avello, executive director of the Wynn race and sports, told ESPN on Thursday afternoon. "Unfortunately, I didn't win any of them."

    "He just wanted to get down on certain games," Avello said. "He didn't care what the number was. He just wanted to get down. And he just didn't lose."

    SB
    "Yeah, I've got him, too," Avello said to ESPN, regarding the return of the World Series bettor.


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    crazy story....all info available online...I came here searching to see if he ever came back after SB.
    After reading all of it only a conspiracy person would not believe it.
    So many different people from different books saying the same thing...and it all checks out with official government numbers.

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    His real name is Nake Fews.

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    Great post Alex1111...

    The only thing I disagree on.... is that no one has slipped his name yet?

    For example... someone would release his name... whether it's an employee telling one of their friends... and then that friend blurting it to someone else. Word would get out. Sure... you could try and sue someone for revealing that said name.... but how are you going to narrow it down... when apparently this individual hits 4-5 different casinos (possibly more) etc.

    Which leads me to believe.... the story is made up by someone in Nevada... that wants the word to be spread around about BETTOR X. Just another story about someone who wagers HEAVY.... that supposedly WINS.... so it entices you to GO BIG.... and be like BETTOR X. But in the end... you lose... and Vegas wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Great post Alex1111...

    The only thing I disagree on.... is that no one has slipped his name yet?

    For example... someone would release his name... whether it's an employee telling one of their friends... and then that friend blurting it to someone else. Word would get out. Sure... you could try and sue someone for revealing that said name.... but how are you going to narrow it down... when apparently this individual hits 4-5 different casinos (possibly more) etc.

    Which leads me to believe.... the story is made up by someone in Nevada... that wants the word to be spread around about BETTOR X. Just another story about someone who wagers HEAVY.... that supposedly WINS.... so it entices you to GO BIG.... and be like BETTOR X. But in the end... you lose... and Vegas wins.
    Well one thing is they all are trained and instructed to not do that. I assume they are also informed of seriousness of that offense. Anyone who did that would lose their licence and would never be able to work at any casino ever again. Also, I don't think many people would know his info. Sure higher up people.....but they are also paid more and appreciate and take their jobs more seriously then some ticket writer. Think about it...if you had a 60-100k job and worked tn the industry for 5yrs....would you risk losing it and never being able to work simmiliar job ever again.....just so you can reveal some guys name?
    Also, what is the importance of his name. Maybe if he is a celebrity it would be interesting. Otherwise, it is just some guy. Name really does not matter at all. This story is interesting and having some name attached to it doesnt add anything to it. Even if something like you said did happen....who would believe that random person giving out a random name?? Like, if I call espn now and say I have a name....what you think they will publish it? Casino employees deal with these kind of customer all the time and there are never any names leaked UNLESS customer themself decides to do it.
    There was a story about a guy in DEC2017....think his name was Big Rob Gorodetsky or something.... he wanted to become famous and sell picks. He called all journalists to do a story about him and promote his twitter. Only one guy from USA Today accepted and did a story. Anyway, guy took him to WillHill and showed him statement of 26M worth of bets during 2017. Problem was he was only 200k up in that moment, which means he was wining but also losing....barely breaking even. They also went to MGM and similar thing....
    So this guy had bet placed 26M+ in bets in one year AND NOT ONE OF THOSE BETS WAS EVER REPORTED ANYWHERE until he decided to tell his story.

    "made up by someone in Nevada"
    How can you say that after all I posted? You are saying ALL Vegas bookies got together on a conference call and decided to make this story up? And then the official government numbers matched the story perfectly?
    Crazy stuff happens ALL the time and that is all that is....crazy incredible stuff and not some elaborate conspiracy.
    Do you think that maybe one casino that was contacted to participate in this lie would say.....hmmmm....no we are going to reveal this lie and you other morons will lose your licence. Coz that is what would happen...No way casino employee can go on and give lies like that ON THE RECORD.
    Unless you are also saying ALL gaming commission members were also on that same conference call and agreed to it?
    And to take all that risk by making up this story.....so they can give a little boost to their least important and smallest part of their business. Sports betting income is almost nothing to casinos. Not sure exactly but I would bet it is less then 1% of their income.

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    Seven-figure bets come in on Rams, Patriots in run-up to Super Bowl LIII

    David Purdum
    2/2/19


    A flurry of big Super Bowl bets, some greater than $1 million, showed up on the Los Angeles Rams late this week in Las Vegas, the largest ones coming from a bettor who shredded sportsbooks for millions on last year's Super Bowl.


    MGM Resorts reported taking a $2 million money-line bet late Thursday on the Rams, who face the New England Patriots in Super Bowl LIII on Sunday in Atlanta. Bookmaker William Hill on Friday said it took a $1.5 million money-line bet on the Rams, and hours later the sportsbook at South Point Casino in Las Vegas reported taking a $300,000 money-line bet on Los Angeles. The bets were made at +120 odds and first reported by the Vegas Stats & Information Network and RotoGrinders.


    Bookmakers and the media nicknamed him "Bettor X," and he did some damage. The bettor, who has asked to remain anonymous, won $10 million in the World Series between the Houston Astros and Los Angeles Dodgers. He followed it up by staking between $8 million and $10 million on the underdog Eagles to beat the Patriots in Super Bowl LII. Philadelphia won 41-33, and Bettor X ended up with a net $25 million from the run.


    Now, he's back, betting again against the Patriots in Super Bowl LIII.


    New England remains a consensus 2.5-point favorite over the Rams (the over/under sits at 56.5 at most sportsbooks), and the Patriots have seen some big bets, as well.
    MGM took a bet Saturday just over "seven figures" on the Patriots -2.5. MGM vice president of race and sports Jay Rood told Vegas Stats and Information Network's Gil Alexander that the bettor won a big bet on New England in the AFC Championship Game and elected to roll it over on the Patriots in the Super Bowl.


    It was the third reported seven-figure bet on the Super Bowl, but the first on New England.


    The bulk of the early money wagered on the Super Bowl was on the Patriots. The first nine five-figure bets MGM books accepted were on New England. The action has leveled out in recent days, and, after the rush of big bets on Los Angeles, some books entered the weekend with more money on the underdog Rams.
    Rood said Saturday morning that betting action over the previous 48 hours had been "fairly 50-50," but cautioned that the bulk of the money will be wagered later Saturday and Sunday.



    "I would say probably 25 to 30 percent [of the total anticipated Super Bowl handle] has been placed so far," Rood said. "The way it's shaping up the last 24 hours, this could turn out not to be a very big decision."


    Rood and MGM will have plenty to sweat, though, even if the money stays relatively balanced up until Sunday's kickoff. MGM opened Rams star defensive tackle Aaron Donald at 70-1 to win Super Bowl MVP. Money flowed in on Donald, driving the price down to 15-1.


    "[Donald] winning MVP is not good for us," Rood said. "One of our biggest losing propositions ever was [Denver Broncos outside linebacker] Von Millerwinning MVP [in Super Bowl 50]."


    Patriots quarterback Tom Brady is the favorite to win MVP at around +125 odds.


    Sources told ESPN that those bets were made by the same customer who last year went on a remarkable gambling run that stretched from the 2017 World Series through Super Bowl LII between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Patriots.

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    Prob a rich whale they wont let sharps bet like that

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    lol

    Anybody can bet whatever they want on the super bowl l even $10 million books don’t care

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