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    pablo222
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    5Dimes Poker bad beat jackpot 54k

    Edit by SBR: 5Dimes is paying the player the full amount. The rule about having to have deposited to claim a BBJ was supposed to have been published and appeared later than intended, but the player in good faith participated and will be paid.



    After playing and paying rake and fees 5dimes stole 53k from me for no reason.
    I signed up on 5Dimes 3 years ago, after a poker friend said he plays there and it was an "ok" site. I did a little research and saw they had high ratings as a sportsbook. Also I was not too concerned as I was playing recreationally.

    I was told by customer service that I could play the weekly poker freeroll and was good to go. I took 3rd? in the first one I played. I used those winnings to play real money tables sporadically over the next three years building up my bankroll to about 800 dollar. I probably paid a couple thousand in rake over that period. Last Friday I was playing a NL25 badbeat jackpot table, and the unthinkable happened. My quad eights were rivered by a straight flush. I was in shock as I am a working stiff and this is more money than I make in a year. After the win all I thought about was paying off ************ and paying down a good chunk of our mortgage.



    For 5 days there was no issue. And then I got home from working overtime on New Years Day to find the funds confiscated. They tried to say that it was because I did not deposit. I specifically asked about this when signing up and carefully read the terms of service. They did not argue that I could not play free rolls, but switched to line in the TOS that I could not take advantage of the site. I did not even play many freerolls after that because it is after my bedtime, and I had built a bankroll on cash tables.

    Do not play this site because I have now dug deeper and am finding out that they like to confiscate funds when someone wins a lot of money. I have paid at least a few thousand in rake and played only a handful of freerolls.

    Let me state that I have never done anything against the terms of service, nor have they said I have. (besides taking advantage of them by playing a free roll they told me I could play!) They let me continue to play for three years.
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    Wow!!! That sucks does not seem fair at all.

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    Read some of your stuff from CS on the other forum. Sound like 5Dimes took advantage af you. Probably rigged it so they don’t have to pay out the Bad Beat and can keep it for themselves.

    Sure there will be some small text in the rules about your account that will screw you.

    So did they put the $53K back into the Bad Beat Jackpot?
    Last edited by mpaschal34; 01-06-19 at 09:51 PM.

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    Is it $53k or $54K?

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    so what happened pablo222 ?

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    Sorry to hear, straight theft of $50k cut and dry no ambiguity to it... people have already posted way back machine photos of 5d's rules page, and the TOS which they claim you are breaking were added 2 years after you won your free roll $. I would file a complaint with SBR but don't hold your breathe the likelihood they will do anything is slightly above 0%. Sadly SBR has no ethical standards and will not upset any book who pay them $.

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    I thought only bet365 change TOS retroactively

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    100% rogue site. Should be rated F If the software lets you sit at a BB table and play, then you should be paid any winnings including BB jackpot etc.

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    I wonder with Tony “dead” if 5dimes makes this right with help of SBR. People bad mouth SBR which is dumb. Without SBR the poster has 0% chance of getting any money. Wit SBR I think his chances are north of 85% if everything he says is true

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    I play poker on many sites. If it allowed you to register then it's on them not your fault. No site I play at will let you register for MTT you are not eligible for. On top of that the bad beat jackpots are really not theirs to keep as it is part of rake that is designated to be paid out. PAY THE MAN HIS MONEY!

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    Have you submitted an SBR complaint form yet Pablo? https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/
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    Quote Originally Posted by dealer wins View Post
    100% rogue site. Should be rated F If the software lets you sit at a BB table and play, then you should be paid any winnings including BB jackpot etc.
    This.....

    If you are allowed to sit at the table and you are contributing towards the BB jackpot, you should be eligible to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpaschal34 View Post
    This.....

    If you are allowed to sit at the table and you are contributing towards the BB jackpot, you should be eligible to win.
    technically he was not contributing since he never deposited real cash

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    Quote Originally Posted by tradeout View Post
    technically he was not contributing since he never deposited real cash
    The BB jackpot is made by a separate rake that feeds that pool. He’s paying part of that rake each hand, so I would say that’s contributing.

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    i have asked for that post to be deleted

    My apologies to Optional and all of Sportsbookreview.com for my incorrect post on 2p2. I would never intentionally post anything that is not true. I made a big mistake and have issued correction with a request to delete my comment. Thank you to everyone who has showed concern with the injustice 5dimes has done.

    to answer a few questions. The badbeat was for over 53k. The total amount confiscated was over 54k.
    Although I don't have the numbers, I must of paid thousands in rake to the poker room.
    They actually added the new rule after they confiscated my funds. which was 6 days after winning the BBJ.
    The have NOT put the money back into the BBJ. Which does not surprise me because from the start this was a money grab and not an attempt to do the right thing for all players on the site.
    Again I am sorry to all of sportsbookreview for my incorrect assertion the post was deleted. I didn't see it, and when I googled it and clicked on link, it said the page did not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo222 View Post
    After playing and paying rake and fees 5dimes stole 53k from me for no reason.
    I signed up on 5Dimes 3 years ago, after a poker friend said he plays there and it was an "ok" site. I did a little research and saw they had high ratings as a sportsbook. Also I was not too concerned as I was playing recreationally.

    I was told by customer service that I could play the weekly poker freeroll and was good to go. I took 3rd? in the first one I played. I used those winnings to play real money tables sporadically over the next three years building up my bankroll to about 800 dollar. I probably paid a couple thousand in rake over that period. Last Friday I was playing a NL25 badbeat jackpot table, and the unthinkable happened. My quad eights were rivered by a straight flush. I was in shock as I am a working stiff and this is more money than I make in a year. After the win all I thought about was paying off ************ and paying down a good chunk of our mortgage.



    For 5 days there was no issue. And then I got home from working overtime on New Years Day to find the funds confiscated. They tried to say that it was because I did not deposit. I specifically asked about this when signing up and carefully read the terms of service. They did not argue that I could not play free rolls, but switched to line in the TOS that I could not take advantage of the site. I did not even play many freerolls after that because it is after my bedtime, and I had built a bankroll on cash tables.

    Do not play this site because I have now dug deeper and am finding out that they like to confiscate funds when someone wins a lot of money. I have paid at least a few thousand in rake and played only a handful of freerolls.

    Let me state that I have never done anything against the terms of service, nor have they said I have. (besides taking advantage of them by playing a free roll they told me I could play!) They let me continue to play for three years.
    I’m not as high on 5Dimes as many on here are, but this sounds a bit suspicious to me. And the fact that you are petty enough to go to another forum to bad mouth another doesn’t speak real highly of your character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetJesus View Post
    I’m not as high on 5Dimes as many on here are, but this sounds a bit suspicious to me. And the fact that you are petty enough to go to another forum to bad mouth another doesn’t speak real highly of your character.

    character', really? Because someone aired their grievances on a gambling forum?! Seems like you're the one who's character needs a check

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpaschal34 View Post
    The BB jackpot is made by a separate rake that feeds that pool. He’s paying part of that rake each hand, so I would say that’s contributing.
    so if he plays cash games and pays real money rake it means he can withdraw his funds? why not pay him? does anyone allowed to withdraw funds from freeroll?

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    I apologized personally to Optional and apologized to all of sportsbookreview.com for the mistake I made. I have issued a correction and asked the mods to delete the post. As I said before, I did not see the post in here and when I used google it said page did not exist. Thank you to Optional for accepting my apology immediately and resuming thread. It definitely shows he is a man of good character.

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    Read this thread and the one on 2+2. Usually these things turnout to be bs that the OP leaves out pertinent info..but my gut here tells me 5dimes is really fuxking him over...they think everybody's dumb enough to believe that the 3 years of playing and paying rake "abused the site" (by 'wasting clerks time/resources' lmao) and not actually benefited the site??

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    Not to mention as of December 2nd the 'rule' wasn't even listed on the tos...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tradeout View Post
    technically he was not contributing since he never deposited real cash

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    This needs to be cross posted in players talk. 53k...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaWoj View Post
    Not to mention as of December 2nd the 'rule' wasn't even listed on the tos...
    It is so egregious that they added the rule after they confiscated my funds, which was 6 days after my win. We were able to confirm this by using javascript. I was just made aware that there is an article on

    https://www.highstakesdb.com/9265-un...ker-scams.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseballstud View Post
    I wonder with Tony “dead” if 5dimes makes this right with help of SBR. People bad mouth SBR which is dumb. Without SBR the poster has 0% chance of getting any money. Wit SBR I think his chances are north of 85% if everything he says is true
    More likely the thread will be deleted. Can't have negative stuff like this about the darling sponsor. Expunge has almost always been solution regarding any troubles at 5dimes.

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    needs to be paid.

    if what stated is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    needs to be paid.

    if what stated is true.
    Agree

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    I don't think Tony is dead but that's another thread. Maybe ******* Becky can come in here and try to make this right.
    Last edited by Optional; 01-07-19 at 11:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxx View Post
    More likely the thread will be deleted. Can't have negative stuff like this about the darling sponsor. Expunge has almost always been solution regarding any troubles at 5dimes.
    Optional has explained to me that this is not how things work. He reinstated the thread after I made the mistake of posting erroneously about this site. I don't blame him for that. But respect that he accepted my apology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    needs to be paid.

    if what stated is true.

    also agree - sounds real bad for 5dimes. kind of hoping there is more to this. 5dimes is my go to here from the US. always said they were the best US book. now they are stealing money, changing rules to support the stealing, if true.

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    Did they pay out the other players at the table ther shares? If they do not pay OP I’d say then pay the bad beat share to the others at the table....OP should be paid though imo

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    I'll be interested how this ends. Normally SBR is amazing at getting 5Dimes to see their clear errors and rectify them. A 54k error might be harder to persuade them about. I'd bet on 5Dimes inventing some ridiculous compromise where they offer 5k and say they are going above and beyond in doing so. Sadly, OP will take it, too, probably.

    Even without this issue 5Dimes is not even close to an A book, let alone A+. Taking multiple days for Bitcoin withdrawals should on its own stop any book getting A+ rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ichiro4thehall View Post
    I'll be interested how this ends. Normally SBR is amazing at getting 5Dimes to see their clear errors and rectify them. A 54k error might be harder to persuade them about. I'd bet on 5Dimes inventing some ridiculous compromise where they offer 5k and say they are going above and beyond in doing so. Sadly, OP will take it, too, probably.

    Even without this issue 5Dimes is not even close to an A book, let alone A+. Taking multiple days for Bitcoin withdrawals should on its own stop any book getting A+ rating.
    Agree with everything you just said

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    BB jackpot is now 93k. What was it when you hit it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetJesus View Post
    I’m not as high on 5Dimes as many on here are, but this sounds a bit suspicious to me. And the fact that you are petty enough to go to another forum to bad mouth another doesn’t speak real highly of your character.
    Another story about another stand up book robbing a player.. And you blame the player typical..

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