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Best books for winning players
For a couple months I've been a winning player and I'd like to continue playing and hopefully get something extra out of sportsbetting.
What books allow winning/pro players as long as they don't arb/crap you shouldn't be doing?
So far I've been using Bookmaker.eu, which I've read allows professional players but I wanted to hear from the community.
Bookmaker
Pinnacle
Heritage not bad
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none....you will get the boot from everyone or be limited if you continue...they are prob trying to figure you out right now.
Pinnacle if your allowed, and thats about it.
Heritage used to be, they are #1 paranoid now.
5dimes=ditto
bookmaker will take good action as long as you dont kill them/give back some in their casino, GL
sportsbetting.ag also an underrated action taker.
Thanks for the input. Noobie here, what amount is defined as "good action".Originally Posted by DISTROYA
Don't for get about exchanges.
Bookmaker is the best...stick with them. They won't boot you if you win. But they will cancel your bonuses if they think you're a pro.
Agree with Heritage being paranoid. They won't boot you but they'll cut your limits.
Pinnacle and Nitrogen are good for big wheelers. No bonuses though.
LowVig has much better odds than boomaker but no bonuses. They don't care how you play and they pay fast. A+ book. I think they're a sister site to BetOnline so they have the backing.
Bovada and 5Dimes. Meh. Overrated imho..
LOL Heritage will pretty aggressively cut you and throw in extra juice just for fun.
It sounds like bookmaker and pinnacle are the most uniformly agreed upon, though I don't currently have access to pinnacle.
You make it sound like lowvig is the probably the most optimal choice though.
Pinnacle is the best. They won't kick you or limit you no matter what. In fact, the book prides itself on taking punter action.
If you have no access to Pinnacle, Bookmaker, The Greek and even Betonline are decent choices. If you are amazing, you will eventually get the boot but that is far far away(You have to rack up a plus of high 5 or even 6 figures)
Do bookmakers care more about the amount you win or the percentage you win/EV of your bets when they think about limiting/banning you?
You are fine right where you are. You'll lose your betpoints and bonuses if youre good enough but they will never limit your action at your current book
I was with Heritage for around 6 months making small bets that averaged $20. Bet lots of teasers and never won nothing. Did good to break even and they collared me........won't let me bet open teasers or parlays no more, along with no promotions. Super paranoid. I think their risk management department gets bored and comes up with crap like this. Anyway, I've actually done better there since they collared me.
You might consider switching your action to brokers; since they earn on your TO, they would welcome your action with open hands. Be wary of some though, they impose some stupid "winning per day" limits, so should be avoided.
(edit: if they cover your sports/markets, that is)
Bookmaker is your best choice imo. LowVig is good if you want to compare or shop for lines. You won't get booted from either one for winning. You can bet 5-10k a day on either site and they won't even blink. Just cash out your bet points on bookmaker fairly regularly in case they decide to pull your bonuses.
Matchbook no such thing as banning you could win $10 million and they keep coming back for you
For USA books I would think bookmaker
Is matchbook available to American players?
Not many books can accommodate bigger bettors who win long term. But there are few. Here is a good list of the best ones.
Also not that that any book that can't handle arb players is not a good because it means they don't have enough volume. Good book that caters to long term winners will have no problem with arb players.
Heritage limits so quick if you beat the closing line consistently.
bookmaker group and pinnacle will pretty much never cut you. Betonline will probably take a long time to get limited too.
I didn't think about this, makes sense, thanks for the post.
Also occurred to me that if a book is sharp then they're still profiting from the arber, its the other book that takes the L.
Pinacle number 1.....Bookmakers eu ...now down..... Sbobet ok...
take it from me, like JJ baldy says, its Pinnacle, Bookmaker, Heritage, then i would say Bovada recently upgraded their business model, Bovada super solid all around now, with easy bitcoin play too. I currently have legend tier 3 account there, the next and last rewards level is Hall of Fame reward tier. 5dimes is best for recreational, along with BetUS
Last edited by MikeTizzy; 08-28-18 at 02:46 PM.
then if u need the best books for the pros in the physical world, Westgate Las Vegas has the biggest book that takes the highest limits, Belagio has a pretty big book from what ive heard. The smaller ones have william hill shops and we stayed at the golden nugget during SBR vegas bash and they have max limits of about 1,000 - 1,500. 500 on 1h or totals, thats what they capped me off at.
I didn't know Bovada allowed winning players. I swore it specifically stated on their site that they don't allow anyone deemed a pro.
I'll also keep that stuff in mind for vegas
The dollar amounts and level of volume Bookmaker takes on a daily basis would astound you. NEVER an issue getting paid I'm aware of. Some of my friends put thousands of dollars in play on a typical NFL weekend and they take it without blinking.
Like what, hundreds of millions? Do sites like that actually need pro-bettors to sharpen the line so as to guarantee profits?
Oh now I know why you got mad, that is your site or referrals or something, that site is tout garbage this might be the second funniest thing I read on there even funnier than the lack of understanding of bet value
"Even though the above links are affiliate partner links, we do not get anything from these books since all our clients are profitable bettors. The reason we have the affiliate partnership with these books is because these books welcome winning bettors to sharpen their lines. By being an affiliate, we will have a general idea of the volume from our clients and we can track the line moves to further improve our handicapping efficiency. Above all, the biggest advantage of using our links to join these books is that if there is ever a dispute with these books, we as affiliate partners can represent you and help you solve the issue. These are the only books that we can assure you of safety and continued winning without any interruption."
LMAO FAF
That’s is hilarious. Meanwhile, we know that the tour industry is the exact opposite of that - picks you’d be better off flipping a coin for and affiliate links bringing in all the profits.
Lots of "Pinnacle doesn't limit" in this thread. They do actually. If they identify you as a sharp they will drop your limits to 50 or 70% of their "normal" limits.
I'm assuming those limits are still quite large?
I don't mind being limited as long as I can make decently sized bets.
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