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    Supreme Court just ruined sports betting

    This is a terrible day... The federal ban being lifted will ruin sports..there will be no more integrity.. games are fixed now but not to the level of what's yet to come. Might as well start betting on wwf. Chris Christie is a jagoff. Terrible day for people like us that aren't scared to trust offshore accounts

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    I wanted to bring this up and ask euro guys how do they feel about their sports in relation to sports gambling, if they feel its more sketchy, what is the sentiment. With leagues wanting a share of the revenue, perhaps could open up all types of feelings.

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    100% correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael777 View Post
    100% correct
    Pour up some liquor brother this is not good news

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsy711 View Post
    This is a terrible day... The federal ban being lifted will ruin sports..there will be no more integrity.. games are fixed now but not to the level of what's yet to come. Might as well start betting on wwf. Chris Christie is a jagoff. Terrible day for people like us that aren't scared to trust offshore accounts
    Sports leagues are smart enough to know they can make money regardless of how many winners and losers there are.
    This is why NCAA is already looking at taking 1% flat fee for all bets. What you should be worried about is crooked players throwing games especially in NCAAB and telling their family/friends to bet big against them.
    Also, if you really think everything is fixed, then why don't you just bet against the public for every game? It's obvious more money would be made if the public opinion is wrong 51%+ of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingcarbs View Post
    Sports leagues are smart enough to know they can make money regardless of how many winners and losers there are.
    This is why NCAA is already looking at taking 1% flat fee for all bets. What you should be worried about is crooked players throwing games especially in NCAAB and telling their family/friends to bet big against them.
    Also, if you really think everything is fixed, then why don't you just bet against the public for every game? It's obvious more money would be made if the public opinion is wrong 51%+ of the time.
    First off I never said EVERYTHING is fixed but point shaving is something that still continues in sports today by referees if you think point shaving stopped after tim donaghy or that the NFL doesn't have a "Tim Donaghy" then you are oblivious. The amount of money that is going to start being wagered will be ridiculous. And now your talking about Uncle Sam stepping into the sport industry. Yeah because they always financially have the people's best interest right?? If you are making the argument that this could only improve the integrity of the sports rather than damage it. Than dude ur an idiot...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsy711 View Post
    First off I never said EVERYTHING is fixed but point shaving is something that still continues in sports today by referees if you think point shaving stopped after tim donaghy or that the NFL doesn't have a "Tim Donaghy" then you are oblivious. The amount of money that is going to start being wagered will be ridiculous. And now your talking about Uncle Sam stepping into the sport industry. Yeah because they always financially have the people's best interest right?? If you are making the argument that this could only improve the integrity of the sports rather than damage it. Than dude ur an idiot...
    You can call me an idiot, but I will NEVER agree with someone who views legalizing things in a negative light. You are the type that prefers security over liberty, and ironically in the end you have neither.

    Fact is that this will be a net benefit to people that currently get shafted by offshore and local books.
    People like you will always be losers and regardless of the legal status of sports betting you will lose your money, now you just have another thing to blame for your losses.

    The govt will of course penetrate us, that has always been in their best interest, and liberal states will have the shittiest implementation of sports betting with high taxes no doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingcarbs View Post
    You can call me an idiot, but I will NEVER agree with someone who views legalizing things in a negative light. You are the type that prefers security over liberty, and ironically in the end you have neither.

    Fact is that this will be a net benefit to people that currently get shafted by offshore and local books.
    People like you will always be losers and regardless of the legal status of sports betting you will lose your money, now you just have another thing to blame for your losses.

    The govt will of course penetrate us, that has always been in their best interest, and liberal states will have the shittiest implementation of sports betting with high taxes no doubt.
    My 2016 earnings would upset u if u knew how much I made off football and I did very well this past season as well. And as far as being ripped off I've never had a problem because I have a brain and put my trust in the top books you can find online..they've paid me every time and never came across any issues.. so as far as losing I'm not a degenerate​ that takes action on the Monday night game just to be entertained.but I'm starting to get the vibe u gamble like that. So before just assume understand there's people out there that actually bet heavy and win heavy. But hey guess u can always add me on Snapchat and see what a $5k dogs looks like or what 10k watches look like. All thanks to a part time job that comes around every September. I come from a family that knows the game unlike u so don't assume my success because I'll put u to shame with success I have with this shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsy711 View Post
    My 2016 earnings would upset u if u knew how much I made off football and I did very well this past season as well. And as far as being ripped off I've never had a problem because I have a brain and put my trust in the top books you can find online..they've paid me every time and never came across any issues.. so as far as losing I'm not a degenerate​ that takes action on the Monday night game just to be entertained.but I'm starting to get the vibe u gamble like that. So before just assume understand there's people out there that actually bet heavy and win heavy. But hey guess u can always add me on Snapchat and see what a $5k dogs looks like or what 10k watches look like. All thanks to a part time job that comes around every September. I come from a family that knows the game unlike u so don't assume my success because I'll put u to shame with success I have with this shit.
    Not going to bother arguing with a wannabe loser, have fun living in your fantasy land kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingcarbs View Post
    Not going to bother arguing with a wannabe loser, have fun living in your fantasy land kid.
    Tell u what just because I know u don't win shit here's a free week of picks for u

    Week 1
    Bears +10
    Trap game raiders will upset Rams.
    Best of luck go ahead and let Uncle Sam tax u on ur winnings instead of playing with a solid bookie or offshore account. 😂😂😂 Ur a joke dude

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    Nothing will change as the sports gaming industry always influenced outcomes.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    Nothing will change as the sports gaming industry always influenced outcomes.....
    Lol if u say so dude....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsy711 View Post
    Lol if u say so dude....
    If you can spot the "fix" you'll make millions.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    If you can spot the "fix" you'll make millions.........
    If u know what ur doing u can make a killing betting this sport

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    There will be tons of new money coming in from newcomers,
    so this will be an open window of opportunity for the experienced
    to ride the wave, at least for a little while .............

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    More competition is never a bad thing. Funding any account, offshore or local, will be much easier as pressure will be taken off the banks. This is actually a good day for sports bettors

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    There will be tons of new money coming in from newcomers,
    so this will be an open window of opportunity for the experienced
    to ride the wave, at least for a little while .............
    I get that point man but it will get out of hand a couple years down the road

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    Lots of naive stuff being spouted in this thread.
    You'd think that up until now there hasn't been any gambling on sports!
    Look around the world.
    In almost every civilised country you can bet on a massive range of sports, including all the prime US leagues on which bookies take several millions of dollars every day.
    Fixers have always had the opportunity to get their bets taken somewhere.

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    This will probably take 4-5 years for most States to get set up. Also, there's is the issue of State borders, both physically and cyberly. Is cyberly even a word?

    In other words, most US peeps might not see much of an effect anytime soon. Let's see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    Lots of naive stuff being spouted in this thread.
    You'd think that up until now there hasn't been any gambling on sports!
    Look around the world.
    In almost every civilised country you can bet on a massive range of sports, including all the prime US leagues on which bookies take several millions of dollars every day.
    Fixers have always had the opportunity to get their bets taken somewhere.
    Only this time Uncle Sam is a key beneficiary to the fix....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsy711 View Post
    Only this time Uncle Sam is a key beneficiary to the fix....
    So Uncle Sam, who is over $20 trillion in debt, will be fixing games to make what amounts to chump change. Makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    So Uncle Sam, who is over $20 trillion in debt, will be fixing games to make what amounts to chump change. Makes no sense.
    U must not pay to close attention to your state government and federal government it's cool man keep walking around with ur head in the clouds because in reality ur heads up ur ass. Just a clueless person living ur day to day life don't ever stop to ask why.. u just carry on and go with the flow of society. Ur a goofy mother f***** man 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsy711 View Post
    U must not pay to close attention to your state government and federal government it's cool man keep walking around with ur head in the clouds because in reality ur heads up ur ass. Just a clueless person living ur day to day life don't ever stop to ask why.. u just carry on and go with the flow of society. Ur a goofy mother f***** man 
    Don't know why I waste my time with a guy who's talking out of his ass. Legalized gambling will make it easier to fund my OFFSHORE accounts dumbass. It's a win. Don't expect you to get it since you're obviously accustomed to losing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Don't know why I waste my time with a guy who's talking out of his ass. Legalized gambling will make it easier to fund my accounts dumbass. It's a win. Don't expect you to get it since you're obviously accustomed to losing.
    I'm from Chicago to pu$$y state of Illinois is looking to take 12% of winnings have fun paying that d1k face and again ur just another idiot that assumes I lose because that's what u do... I don't assume anything about ur style of betting but seeing how u judge me let's me know ur a broke a$$ loser

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsy711 View Post
    My 2016 earnings would upset u if u knew how much I made off football and I did very well this past season as well. And as far as being ripped off I've never had a problem because I have a brain and put my trust in the top books you can find online..they've paid me every time and never came across any issues.. so as far as losing I'm not a degenerate​ that takes action on the Monday night game just to be entertained.but I'm starting to get the vibe u gamble like that. So before just assume understand there's people out there that actually bet heavy and win heavy. But hey guess u can always add me on Snapchat and see what a $5k dogs looks like or what 10k watches look like. All thanks to a part time job that comes around every September. I come from a family that knows the game unlike u so don't assume my success because I'll put u to shame with success I have with this shit.
    Either point us to your record on Pickmonitor, or shut it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsy711 View Post
    I'm from Chicago to pu$$y state of Illinois is looking to take 12% of winnings have fun paying that d1k face and again ur just another idiot that assumes I lose because that's what u do... I don't assume anything about ur style of betting but seeing how u judge me let's me know ur a broke a$$ loser
    I'm from Illinois too, but have no intention of setting up an account here. All I care about is funding and collecting from 5D, Bookmaker, Heritage, BOL, etc...And it will be a lot easier going forward. Take a look at the bigger picture 'tard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    I'm from Illinois too, but have no intention of setting up an account here. All I care about is funding 5D, Bookmaker, Heritage, BOL, etc...And it will be a lot easier going forward. Take a look at the bigger picture 'tard.
    U keep thinking that...in a few years if these offshore accounts don't report earnings to the feds and get with the program the feds are gonna shut this sh1t down.. I think it's u that needs to see the big picture.. they already got bookmaker once what makes u think they won't hit them all for good especially when their losing profits... And u must be 12 years old calling people a tard so no need to argue with a kid who doesn't know fundamentals of taxing or how greedy Illinois state government is 😂😂😂 man u dudes live in a perfect world inside a bubble just oblivious. Don't be mad I'm standing outside poping that bubble with a needle to bring u back to reality...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsy711 View Post
    U keep thinking that...in a few years if these offshore accounts don't report earnings to the feds and get with the program the feds are gonna shut this sh1t down.. I think it's u that needs to see the big picture.. they already got bookmaker once what makes u think they won't hit them all for good especially when their losing profits... And u must be 12 years old calling people a tard so no need to argue with a kid who doesn't know fundamentals of taxing or how greedy Illinois state government is  man u dudes live in a perfect world inside a bubble just oblivious. Don't be mad I'm standing outside poping that bubble with a needle to bring u back to reality...
    Not mad, just amazed how ignorant you are.

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    Michigan will be one of the first in line. Casinos already set up.... MGM downtown Detroit.... guaranteed will push for priority.

    Economy sucks here in Detroit... people already throwing tons of money away on table and slot machines. Michigan will gladly cater to these people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Michigan will be one of the first in line. Casinos already set up.... MGM downtown Detroit.... guaranteed will push for priority.

    Economy sucks here in Detroit... people already throwing tons of money away on table and slot machines. Michigan will gladly cater to these people.
    Hell yea I hear ya bro alot of these states will welcome this with open arms. Chicago's deficit with the pension plan is out of control where every man woman and child owes 11k 😂 they are gonna hit this hard in tax revenue, illinois is already hitting this before it even starts in 5 years their gonna be trying to take 20% of earnings. It's a joke dude lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsy711 View Post
    I'm from Chicago to pu$$y state of Illinois is looking to take 12% of winnings have fun paying that d1k face and again ur just another idiot that assumes I lose because that's what u do... I don't assume anything about ur style of betting but seeing how u judge me let's me know ur a broke a$$ loser
    I used to live out there. The city & da burbs. Crook County & Lake County heheh. I live near Detroit now. I think the casino's here will be pretty lit once they get everything configured. Just like TheMoneyShot mentioned. MGM is a Las Vegas headquartered brand & they have one out here in Detroit. Detroit downtown & Midtown is not nearly as bad as it used to be. It's pretty decent & at times lively now, especially in the warmer months.
    For all you Chicago broskis, once they get the sportsbetting in place, take the Amtrak or drive out here. Stay at the MGM or a nearby hotel. Play some sports & then hit the new restaurants & the strip clubs in town lol. You'll definitely save money over a trip to Vegas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reppin_the_847 View Post
    I used to live out there. The city & da burbs. Crook County & Lake County heheh. I live near Detroit now. I think the casino's here will be pretty lit once they get everything configured. Just like TheMoneyShot mentioned. MGM is a Las Vegas headquartered brand & they have one out here in Detroit. Detroit downtown & Midtown is not nearly as bad as it used to be. It's pretty decent now, especially in the warmer months.
    Hell yea man then u know how it is over here 😂 I heard the casinos in Detroit are where it's at bro. And yea mgm has one of the best sports book in Vegas I'd put it 3rd behind west gate and the mirage. Pretty much every main casino has a sports book out there brother but u have more options of plays off a website like heritage or 5dimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsy711 View Post
    This is a terrible day... The federal ban being lifted will ruin sports..there will be no more integrity.. games are fixed now but not to the level of what's yet to come. Might as well start betting on wwf. Chris Christie is a jagoff. Terrible day for people like us that aren't scared to trust offshore accounts
    Won't affect most professional leagues, athletes make too much money. College sports possibly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsy711 View Post
    Hell yea man then u know how it is over here �� I heard the casinos in Detroit are where it's at bro. And yea mgm has one of the best sports book in Vegas I'd put it 3rd behind west gate and the mirage. Pretty much every main casino has a sports book out there brother but u have more options of plays off a website like heritage or 5dimes
    Yeah I hear you man. I haven't been wagering much lately, but for the times I have, I've turned to Nitrogen Sports, Bookmaker & Heritage.

    Either way, it will be nice to have more options in the future & less of a stigma on the whole thing. At the end of the day, the biggest thing folks have to watch out for is money management whether this is legal, illegal, at a sportsbook / casino or online with an offshore account. Some things will never change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsy711 View Post
    Hell yea man then u know how it is over here �� I heard the casinos in Detroit are where it's at bro. And yea mgm has one of the best sports book in Vegas I'd put it 3rd behind west gate and the mirage. Pretty much every main casino has a sports book out there brother but u have more options of plays off a website like heritage or 5dimes
    You are a phony and I am calling you out. Only a complete and total dumb arse talks about all the money they have won in here. I had your IP address traced and then had you checked out. I suppose you have never heard of that. People like you do have some knowledge and talk a good game, but ALWAYS give themselves away. You are financially worthless. If you think that the MGM has one of the three best sports books in Vegas, you are crazy. Now go take your lies and opinions and tell them to someone who cares. You will not find that person in here. DO NOT try to Bull S**t people in here again.

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