[DroopyDog]

I requested BTC wd at Bookmaker at 8:30am
-deducted immediately
-paid by 11am

5dimes doesnt deduct immediately and Id still be waiting 2 more days to receive the initial email verification...and then 2 more days after that to get paid


BookMaker

[Crusherrr]

Agreed. Bookmaker as good as it gets. Imagine if they had reduced juice?

[mrpapageorgio]

Agree I like BM's payouts better. I just wish they had 5D's lines/ reduced juice.

[Waterstpub87]

Agreed. Bookmaker as good as it gets. Imagine if they had reduced juice?

Oh man, this would be a dream. I have started to like bookmaker more and more, even though they cut bonuses and loyalty program for me.

[jjgold]

Who has more customers??

Could that make it slower?

[jtoler]

Agreed. Bookmaker as good as it gets. Imagine if they had reduced juice?

yea imagine, instead they have inflated juice

[RocketMan$$$]

as long as 5 dimes still pays

[Microphone]

Great discussion. That's the trade off.

There is no disputing 5 Dimes has the best and most options for wagering and some of the best competitive juice prices.

There is no dispute that compared to other 3 US facing major books---Heritage, Bookmaker and BetOnline---that 5 Dimes has the most archaic web site (assuming BetOnline's is working) and, being discussed here, BTC withdrawal method and time frame.


I know it's not that simple saying which would you rather have. Some bettors are less likely to be limited at Bookmaker than 5 Dimes...one example of many.


And some think because of the 2 day wait time vs. 2 hour wait time, there is some risk with their money or lack of ability of 5 Dimes to pay. I haven't seen any no pay threads here with that subject.


So I'll ask anyway, which would you rather have, a 2 day wait with a hassle to many with security or whatever it is at 5 Dimes or same day pay? There's probably no right answer.

I'm interested to see the next SBR posters poll to see if 5 Dimes gets dethroned or holds it's spot.

[ABEHONEST]

Great discussion. That's the trade off.

There is no disputing 5 Dimes has the best and most options for wagering and some of the best competitive juice prices.

There is no dispute that compared to other 3 US facing major books---Heritage, Bookmaker and BetOnline---that 5 Dimes has the most archaic web site (assuming BetOnline's is working) and, being discussed here, BTC withdrawal method and time frame.


I know it's not that simple saying which would you rather have. Some bettors are less likely to be limited at Bookmaker than 5 Dimes...one example of many.


And some think because of the 2 day wait time vs. 2 hour wait time, there is some risk with their money or lack of ability of 5 Dimes to pay. I haven't seen any no pay threads here with that subject.


So I'll ask anyway, which would you rather have, a 2 day wait with a hassle to many with security or whatever it is at 5 Dimes or same day pay? There's probably no right answer.

I'm interested to see the next SBR posters poll to see if 5 Dimes gets dethroned or holds it's spot.

So Bookmaker wins one category out of 10? Easy math here members.

[DroopyDog]

Well the pros will choose reduced juice, but recreational guys like me would rather have smooth fast payouts. 5dimes is maddening in this area... and when you realize its intentional it really pisses you off.

There is 0 plausible excuse for a bitcoin payout to take 4 days. If they wanna blame it on their processor, do it in house, or find a better processor because big books like bookmaker and heritage dont have that issue

[relaaxx]

if you need/want your money as fast as possible and that is the priority then bookmaker is for you. if that is not the most important thing to you then 5dimes is way better. never liked bookmaker had a problem with management many years ago. book to book is free except at bookmaker. they will charge hundreds to do a book to book. it cost them nothing. bookmaker sucks. the best book I love to say they suck. just saying it still makes me happy. bookmaker sucks.

[ABEHONEST]

if you need/want your money as fast as possible and that is the priority then bookmaker is for you. if that is not the most important thing to you then 5dimes is way better. never liked bookmaker had a problem with management many years ago. book to book is free except at bookmaker. they will charge hundreds to do a book to book. it cost them nothing. bookmaker sucks. the best book I love to say they suck. just saying it still makes me happy. bookmaker sucks.

I just might agree with you, especially with management? Etiquette warnings from SBR are needed.
I had one C-rated Book state, they would have given me a break had I not posted a complaint about them on SBR.

[Optional]

I just might agree with you, especially with management? Etiquette warnings from SBR are needed.
I had one C-rated Book state, they would have given me a break had I not posted a complaint about them on SBR.

Name and shame them Abe.

[jbayko]

Who has more customers??

Could that make it slower?

If you have more customers, then in theory you have higher profits and correspondingly higher operational costs to support those customers. If you have longer delays in customer support functions, then you haven't scaled up appropriately.

So if the excuse is that 5Dimes takes longer because they have higher volume, that's still on them - they have made a choice to decrease costs at the expense of customer satisfaction.

However, I don't believe this is the reason why. If their staff couldn't keep up with the volume, then what we'd see is wait times growing longer and longer as the backlog builds up over time until eventually none of us would be receiving payouts That's not happening, so the delay we all experience is inherent in their process. My guess is it's what others here have suspected - they are purposely adding a delay in hopes that X% of payouts never take place because the customer has wagered some of the balance in the meantime. It's even happened to me before, and I consider myself to have great self discipline when it comes to betting.

[jbayko]

...There is no dispute that compared to other 3 US facing major books---Heritage, Bookmaker and BetOnline---that 5 Dimes has the most archaic web site (assuming BetOnline's is working)...

5Dimes gets a lot of crap for it's old website, but I actually like it. What is it that people really need here? Sports betting is not complicated. Pick a category, pick your bets, and submit. Sometimes simple and stable is the best solution. Heritage and Bovada have flashy websites, but they're also full of annoying bugs.

There are a couple of things I wish 5Dimes had, such as the ability to set the Risk OR Win amount, but I've learned to live without it just fine. Their selection and odds are worth those minor extremely inconveniences.

[KVB]

Oh man, this would be a dream. I have started to like bookmaker more and more, even though they cut bonuses and loyalty program for me.

They cut everything, but still a solid book.

The cost to play is way to high, I can call in bets to Nevada for that price.

[ABEHONEST]

Name and shame them Abe.

That, I had to give that up. It's hard enough to win without personal changes on lines, meant directly for you.
It's true about the C-Book. But, would they have really helped me with mountainous rollover?
I have serious doubts.

[Optional]

I wish 5Dimes had, such as the ability to set the Risk OR Win amount

If you use the "Straight & RIF" menu you can select risk or win.

[5918mike]

If you use the "Straight & RIF" menu you can select risk or win.

Circle selection vs square selection, LOL!

[jbayko]

If you use the "Straight & RIF" menu you can select risk or win.

True, but I'm usually doing multiple wagers at a time so that's more of a hassle. But thanks for the reminder

[sourtwist]

Bookmaker second to none

[TheMoneyShot]

Only knock with Bookmaker... when getting a PO with BTC... you always lose around $5.00 extra in BTC conversion somewhere in the equation. I don't get it???

5Dimes... you never lose $5.00
Heritage you never lose $5.00

That's one thing that pisses me off about Bookmaker... and they act like they don't know what's going on???? Secret service charge somewhere.

[Waterstpub87]

They cut everything, but still a solid book.

The cost to play is way to high, I can call in bets to Nevada for that price.

Yes and No. Started betting international baseball, Bookmaker -110, Heritage Betonline -115.

[Optional]

Only knock with Bookmaker... when getting a PO with BTC... you always lose around $5.00 extra in BTC conversion somewhere in the equation. I don't get it???

5Dimes... you never lose $5.00
Heritage you never lose $5.00

That's one thing that pisses me off about Bookmaker... and they act like they don't know what's going on???? Secret service charge somewhere.

They have small processor fee, something under 1% they said last time they commented about it.

[Microphone]

if you need/want your money as fast as possible and that is the priority then bookmaker is for you. if that is not the most important thing to you then 5dimes is way better. never liked bookmaker had a problem with management many years ago. book to book is free except at bookmaker. they will charge hundreds to do a book to book. it cost them nothing. bookmaker sucks. the best book I love to say they suck. just saying it still makes me happy. bookmaker sucks.

This still baffles me. If you need your money "as fast as possible" why do you have it offshore???? If 48 hours vs 4-6 hours makes a difference in your financial life you have problems.

[TheMoneyShot]

They have small processor fee, something under 1% they said last time they commented about it.

I must of missed that post/thread. Glad they came forward and explained it.

[GradyFuson]

I would expect that the bigger books would have experts helping them with handling crypto. 5dimes and BM likely have a strong understanding of the direction of the price of crypto and when 5 dimes takes 4+ days to send you Bitcoin payout it gives them a chance to sell/payout at a more opportune time.
I think Bookmaker also does this, but within much smaller timeframe so you are less likely to lose your shirt on volatility.
The industry should demand that A+ books payout well within 24 hours.

[DroopyDog]

Only knock with Bookmaker... when getting a PO with BTC... you always lose around $5.00 extra in BTC conversion somewhere in the equation. I don't get it???

5Dimes... you never lose $5.00
Heritage you never lose $5.00

That's one thing that pisses me off about Bookmaker... and they act like they don't know what's going on???? Secret service charge somewhere.

Depends on your wallet and what exchange price your wallet is using. I use blockchain wallet and Bookmaker has never shorted me based on the price blockchain uses

[A4K]

Bookmaker is great for transfers in and out but their variety of lines and options nullify that edge. Teasers are weak and no reduced juice.

[KVB]

Yes and No. Started betting international baseball, Bookmaker -110, Heritage Betonline -115.

Good point.

[Jared Brooks]

Bookmaker is superior to 5Dimes in terms of:

payouts with cryptocurrency
interface
customer service
limits

Because of the higher limits, Bookmaker is superior for the big boys.

[ibetyouadollar]

I requested BTC wd at Bookmaker at 8:30am you are 1000% right.
-deducted immediately
-paid by 11am

5dimes doesnt deduct immediately and Id still be waiting 2 more days to receive the initial email verification...and then 2 more days after that to get paid


BookMaker

you are 1000% right

[mrpapageorgio]

Mentioned this on the May payout page, but even BetOnline's generic sites have a better withdrawal process than 5D. Did a hit and run bet tonight on Cavs' spread on LowVig and submitted the withdrawal shortly after the game. To authenticate that it was me actually withdrawing, they gave me the option of receiving an automated phone call or an email to the number/address on record with a code I had to enter (along the lines of BookMaker). Did the email and in less than 6 hours, I was paid.

[sourtwist]

5d doesn't seem to care enough to step up theur game

[RonPaul2008]

I hope Bookmaker brings back wires and debit card soon.