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    what A+ Rating for bookies really mean

    Bookmaker is supposed to be an A+ bookie but on the 21 posts thread (as of now) about the bookie that process the fastest cashout, BM is not present! it makes me wonder what is the critiria used to determine A+ bookies, i thought the most relevant one is the speed and the "troublelessness" of cashouts.
    r the A+ bookies really that good or r they just the ones that paid the most on advertising in SBR?

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    A couple weeks ago I got a low 5-figure payout from Bookmaker via Moneybookers in about an hour. That is very good.

    Traditionally, financial stability has been a key factor in high SBR ratings and Bookmaker have been a rock in the industry the whole time I have been around the off-shore industry (~8 years).

    The amount they pay SBR also factors in, no doubt.

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    they are one of the largest books , it probably takes alot more time to process all of the transactions, but i don't think you will find a thread where they didn't payout

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    Putting out lines among the earliest makes BookMaker very high rated alone.

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    I'm my opinion Bookmaker is not A+. I think it is all an opinion, bookmaker gets a lot of credit because of longevity, not exceptionally fast payouts though

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    Quote Originally Posted by thespeculator View Post
    it probably takes alot more time to process all of the transactions
    what i understand from ur post is that they process withdrawals manually and when there r many players asking for cash outs it slows a litlle bit. that means they either don't have the IT knowledge to use the mass-pay features of Moneybookers/Neteller or their boss refuse this type of features.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loyd View Post
    Bookmaker is supposed to be an A+ bookie but on the 21 posts thread (as of now) about the bookie that process the fastest cashout, BM is not present! it makes me wonder what is the critiria used to determine A+ bookies, i thought the most relevant one is the speed and the "troublelessness" of cashouts.
    r the A+ bookies really that good or r they just the ones that paid the most on advertising in SBR?
    the A+ only means that if the book pays SBR alot of money they will give them that A+, what a joke of a site and they put others down if they say the truth about the Bad books they give that A+ to. this site is, well you get it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbigballs View Post
    the A+ only means that if the book pays SBR alot of money they will give them that A+, what a joke of a site and they put others down if they say the truth about the Bad books they give that A+ to. this site is, well you get it .
    That is the usual response from folks like you who are with scam sportsbooks.

    Please tell Robbie to return the email about paying the Apex player he stiffed 5 years ago. He wastes everyone's time asking for old case info when he has no plans of paying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loyd View Post
    what i understand from ur post is that they process withdrawals manually and when there r many players asking for cash outs it slows a litlle bit. that means they either don't have the IT knowledge to use the mass-pay features of Moneybookers/Neteller or their boss refuse this type of features.
    well the moneybookers payouts are not slow they tend to be within 24 hours, it is the checks that take time, u.s. players can't use moneybookers

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    like mudcat said, he got his in an hour,

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbigballs View Post
    the A+ only means that if the book pays SBR alot of money they will give them that A+, what a joke of a site and they put others down if they say the truth about the Bad books they give that A+ to. this site is, well you get it .
    SBR is a highly respected site. The most highly respected when it comes to settling disputes and rating online sportsbooks. This being said they are not perfect, but they'll do until Jesus comes back down for the sequel (don't hold your breath, he's already 1000 wars and 20 plagues late).

    Bookmaker gives good bonuses, and you'll get paid every time. Payouts will usually arrive in 3 working days, and they say it takes 7 to 10 working days. You are given all this info up front. 1 free payout every 30 days. No reduced juice but you get loyalty points, so it's the same thing anyway, and it works across the board.

    If that's not a A+ book in reality world, then what is?

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    $ only helps the good books in the A/B range get a boost and a pretty banner on the top of the site. And for some of the books like Greek and Pinnacle they are already simply the best out there with the early lines, high limits, and good payments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climate View Post
    Bookmaker gives good bonuses, and you'll get paid every time. Payouts will usually arrive in 3 working days, and they say it takes 7 to 10 working days. You are given all this info up front. 1 free payout every 30 days. No reduced juice but you get loyalty points, so it's the same thing anyway, and it works across the board.

    If that's not a A+ book in reality world, then what is?
    Thanks Climate. Hopefully the newbies can see through frauds like MrBigBalls who works out of Bet33's office shilling sister turnkey site, AlohaSportsbook. He's been pretnending he's a satisfied player while saying negative things about BetPhoenix. Ownership there fired his boss Robbie about 7 years ago.

    $ only helps the good books in the A/B range get a boost and a pretty banner on the top of the site. And for some of the books like Greek and Pinnacle they are already simply the best out there with the early lines, high limits, and good payments.
    There are and always have been highly rated sportsbooks that SBR sends a lot of traffic to that have never advertised or paid for their traffic. The players decide who they are and that is part of SBR. Two B- books advertise here. They have been B- well before they started advertising and after.

    The ratings are a guides for players. There is plenty to read for us to each draw our own conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climate View Post
    Payouts will usually arrive in 3 working days
    thats not impressive at all, Pinnacle payouts arrive in hours and Betfair payouts even arrive in minutes (assuming u use an ewallet).

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    I think Bookmaker is an A+.

    I get paid within 24 hours, usually faster (moneybookers).

    They put lines up early. They are not afraid to take a bet.

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    i can live with bm/cris/dsi headaches cause i know that my money is safe;; but still i have to say to any bm/cris management reading this forum ;; speed up the processing dudes;; u take our money in a second , then make us wait up to 10 days for payouts;; come on!!!

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