[gamblehappier]

Hi,i will be interested to discuss which is the exchange or asian with best odds especially for football and which exchange/asian you suggest.Of course betfair is one the best, but has high commission and premium charges.Smarkets i think is good alternative.

Matchbook has high liquidity but i think is not competitive and does not offer high odds especially to smaller leagues(or even these matches do not exist).
What about betdaq,it is like matchbook?Has only big matches and not so good odds,big gap between back and lay?

Anyone to suggest another serious exchange except from these?Also there are some some asians exchanges does it worth to bet there(i have read that most of asians exchanges are for horseracing)?

As for the big asians many will say that you will found better odds from betfair at signbet,maxbet,betisn,especially for football and smaller leagues.What is your opinion?Is it true.

Finnaly Pinnacle at smaller leagues has huge juice,the above asians have lower juice?

[gamblehappier]

Hi,i will be interested to discuss which is the exchange or asian with best odds especially for football and which exchange/asian you suggest.Of course betfair is one the best, but has high commission and premium charges.Smarkets i think is good alternative.

Matchbook has high liquidity but i think is not competitive and does not offer high odds especially to smaller leagues(or even these matches do not exist).
What about betdaq,it is like matchbook?Has only big matches and not so good odds,big gap between back and lay?

Anyone to suggest another serious exchange except from these?Also there are some some asians exchanges does it worth to bet there(i have read that most of asians exchanges are for horseracing)?

As for the big asians many will say that you will found better odds from betfair at signbet,maxbet,betisn,especially for football and smaller leagues.What is your opinion?Is it true.

Finnaly Pinnacle at smaller leagues has huge juice,the above asians have lower juice?

[Alfa1234]

There is a tool called Mollybet which combines the best odds for a number of sports like football/soccer, basketball, tennis, hocky etc...but you need to go through an agent to access it. Premiumtradings and Asianconnect both offer this tool but they charge a small commission per bet. Vipsportsbook.eu also offers the tool, without commission. Another tool is called Vodds which you can access through the agent easysportsbook. No commission there either but only football.

Stay away from Singbet, they are known to void bets from sharp players.

Betdaq has terrible liquidity and not so many games. This results in much lower odds if you compare them to Smarkets and Betfair.

There are no asian exchanges for football anymore to my knowledge since Footbet went out of business.

The juice at other asians is roughly the same for smaller leagues, very low limits as well.

[gamblehappier]

I know the signbet void a lot better stay away.So my preference is first betfair than smarkets and then matchbook.Betdaq is actually dead.

Dont you think also that matchbook has a lot of gap at back and lay?When the back is 2.2 The lay odd at matchbook could be 2.5 while smarkets,betfair have 2.3 lay odd.At matchbook in small leagues the gap is bigger,lay bet does not have value.Am i right?

"The juice at other asians is roughly the same for smaller leagues, very low limits as well"
When i mean smaller leagues i mean brazil b,c division.
Are you sure about this?Pinni has 10/100 juice dont you think that maxbet and other asians have lower juice?

Even betfair has low juice in these divisions ( back 2.2- lay2.3)

[Craig22]

I know the signbet void a lot better stay away.So my preference is first betfair than smarkets and then matchbook.Betdaq is actually dead.

Dont you think also that matchbook has a lot of gap at back and lay?When the back is 2.2 The lay odd at matchbook could be 2.5 while smarkets,betfair have 2.3 lay odd.At matchbook in small leagues the gap is bigger,lay bet does not have value.Am i right?

"The juice at other asians is roughly the same for smaller leagues, very low limits as well"
When i mean smaller leagues i mean brazil b,c division.
Are you sure about this?Pinni has 10/100 juice dont you think that maxbet and other asians have lower juice?

Even betfair has low juice in these divisions ( back 2.2- lay2.3)

I'd recommend Asian Connect as a broker vs. Premium Tradings. Premium Tradings took advantage of a high volume player and would definitely not recommend playing there.

[jjgold]

Matchbook good for usa sports and tennis some soccer

Betfair wins by a mile with everything

ALL OTHERS GARBAGE and hardly any liquidity

[Hareeba!]

Matchbook good for usa sports and tennis some soccer

Betfair wins by a mile with everything

ALL OTHERS GARBAGE and hardly any liquidity

More ignorance.
Smarkets is excellent low commission option though less markets on offer than Betfair.

[gamblehappier]

I'd recommend Asian Connect as a broker vs. Premium Tradings. Premium Tradings took advantage of a high volume player and would definitely not recommend playing there.

Thanks craig22 ,i know it but thanks for informing me,i have read all the thread about it. Yeah asian connect is the top broker.

[gamblehappier]

More ignorance.
Smarkets is excellent low commission option though less markets on offer than Betfair.

I completely agree here smarkets and betfair are the king exchanges and for soccer are both the best.Matchbook has big gaps between back and lay and i think only bots bet there,not human(alexa ranking confirm it)Anyway which do you think is the best broker to access smarkets,betfair?You will use a broker?

With brokers it is true that you avoid premium charges?

Dont you think its better to bet instant via someone in an allowed country?

[Hareeba!]

I completely agree here smarkets and betfair are the king exchanges and for soccer are both the best.Matchbook has big gaps between back and lay and i think only bots bet there,not human(alexa ranking confirm it)Anyway which do you think is the best broker to access smarkets,betfair?You will use a broker?

With brokers it is true that you avoid premium charges?

Dont you think its better to bet instant via someone in an allowed country?

No need for brokers yet betting from Australia.
PC at Betfair not an issue given my high volume/low margin horseracing strategy.
Unfortunately can't use Smarkets any more though.
Matchbook can be ok for soccer too closer to game time.

[jjgold]

smarkets has terrible liquidity and terrible software

Real cheaply done and you can tell they are underfunded just by website

[Alfa1234]

smarkets has terrible liquidity and terrible software

Real cheaply done and you can tell they are underfunded just by website

JJ, you really should stop posting things like that if you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about...you have never even used the website so how would you know the software is terrible?

The Smarkets liquidity rivals Betfair in big markets and the software works just fine. They have become a serious BF competitor.

[gamblehappier]

JJ, you really should stop posting things like that if you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about...you have never even used the website so how would you know the software is terrible?

The Smarkets liquidity rivals Betfair in big markets and the software works just fine. They have become a serious BF competitor.

Alfa is right,smarkets global ranking is 29.000 ,so its a real threat for betfair if it keeps low commission.. Also in big matches and at cheltenham festival the liquidity,odds are good .Matchbook has liquidity but not so good odds.

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[piterp]

Smarkets for prematching bets is perfect because low commission and good liquidity
for inplay beting only betfair because smakets in play is tragedy not always but very often

[jjgold]

JJ, you really should stop posting things like that if you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about...you have never even used the website so how would you know the software is terrible?

The Smarkets liquidity rivals Betfair in big markets and the software works just fine. They have become a serious BF competitor.

not even close

tennis and soccer

[dealer wins]

Smarkets is unreliable and unusable for pro gamblers. Too many cases of downtime, bets confirmed as placed which turn out to not have been matched etc etc

Cannot use them with anything other than small stakes

[Hareeba!]

Smarkets is unreliable and unusable for pro gamblers. Too many cases of downtime, bets confirmed as placed which turn out to not have been matched etc etc

Cannot use them with anything other than small stakes

That's somewhat contrary to my experience with them.
But of course your idea of "small" may well be a decent sized bet for me!
I used them mostly for UK horseracing and football and had no genuine issues.
Sure, their software is awkward but that's a relatively minor issue.
Disappointed that they barred Australians a few months ago. I miss being able to use them.

[gamblehappier]

hareeba what do you think about fairlay?

[Hareeba!]

hareeba what do you think about fairlay?

not tried them
not into bitcoin

[stefan084]

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[jjgold]

smarkets is laughable

Not even on radar of any exchange

[gamblehappier]

JJ gold why are you saying that about smarkets?

[Hareeba!]

JJ gold why are you saying that about smarkets?

he's never used them
clueless!

[gamblehappier]

Maybe,but i think its good for medium amounts of money..Someone has said for big amounts may some bets not matched.Smarkets is not Betfair but i think its good alternative.

[Alfa1234]

Those Smarkets tech issues are from years ago, the new site works flawlessly...in big markets they have the same, if not higher, volume than Betfair, with only 2% commission.

[jjgold]

Tennis live this early AM..Betfairs has 3 million on the Mugsy match SMARKETS 14k

Almost all markets not even on radar..chump change compared to betfair

GAME OVER

[Alfa1234]

Mugsy tennis game is hardly a major market, right?

All Champions league games tonight have 75 to 90% of Betfair amounts matched. Premier league this is often even higher.

Betfair is traded by bots much more, which makes their volume on smaller markets like that tennis game hundreds of times higher.

NOT game over.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Mugsy tennis game is hardly a major market, right?

Well, it's a premier level event, you'd hope for more.

[gamblehappier]

Mugsy tennis game is hardly a major market, right?

All Champions league games tonight have 75 to 90% of Betfair amounts matched. Premier league this is often even higher.

Betfair is traded by bots much more, which makes their volume on smaller markets like that tennis game hundreds of times higher.

NOT game over.

Alfaa you have said 7 months before that you are not able to bet there due to geolocation..how you bet there now?

[gamblehappier]

Smarkets is excellent for soccer and it has too low commission,compare with betfair.Its not betfair but again its good.I believe is the second best right now.Matchbook is not so good as it has small number of markets.And i really do not know why they do not increase markets in order to be more competitive.

[Alfa1234]

I didn't say I was still using the site, now did I?