[betg]

I have sent them all they wanted, I play bitcoin for anonymity which they already destroyed and didn't process my withdrawals anyway sayin' it's money laundering, no replies to emails, anything which can helps me to just take away muy deposit to the same address if they think its laundering...or play for it or anything which can sort this...... their thinking: ok we are almost sure that your money is illegal so we take them to the pocket then everything is sorted... RLY? I'd like to fight in court but they are GHOST,NO LICENSE ETC.
DO NOT PLAY HERE!!! THEY CAN DO ANYTHING, PROBABLY 1 DAY THEY JUST RUN WITH ALL THE MONEY.

[Ap732]

Thanx monehshot n littlekona im in lets see if i can do some damage there. Thanx guys

[Ap732]

@littlekona i just sent.my.btc to the segwit adress i hope.i get my.btc
..... will.update.wen.i get it.

[TheMoneyShot]

@littlekona i just sent.my.btc to the segwit adress i hope.i get my.btc
..... will.update.wen.i get it.

Let us know if it works or not? I always send mine to Legacy. But free is better.

[littlekona]

Let us know if it works or not? I always send mine to Legacy. But free is better.

I use the Segwit address of late and it works just like legacy and no .2mBTC fee...But they did say if you send bigger deposits to use legacy..

[littlekona]

@littlekona i just sent.my.btc to the segwit adress i hope.i get my.btc
..... will.update.wen.i get it.

They credit after one confirmation or few mins right after

[TheMoneyShot]

I have sent them all they wanted, I play bitcoin for anonymity which they already destroyed and didn't process my withdrawals anyway sayin' it's money laundering, no replies to emails, anything which can helps me to just take away muy deposit to the same address if they think its laundering...or play for it or anything which can sort this...... their thinking: ok we are almost sure that your money is illegal so we take them to the pocket then everything is sorted... RLY? I'd like to fight in court but they are GHOST,NO LICENSE ETC.
DO NOT PLAY HERE!!! THEY CAN DO ANYTHING, PROBABLY 1 DAY THEY JUST RUN WITH ALL THE MONEY.

It's a mystery. Why did they randomly select you?

[littlekona]

ive been on all morning and afternoon playing horses...looking around at some soccer and US football my God there is a lot of mBTC matched and unmatched...Just look around at the matches that should tell you of players trust level as its an exchange..There has 2 be a good trust as these match makers have ALOT BTC on here...And only one ever to get KYC is Betg out of 3+ years and thousands of players....thats a thing that makes u go Hmmmmmm....like the song

[raiders72001]

ive been on all morning and afternoon playing horses...looking around at some soccer and US football my God there is a lot of mBTC matched and unmatched...Just look around at the matches that should tell you of players trust level as its an exchange..There has 2 be a good trust as these match makers have ALOT BTC on here...And only one ever to get KYC is Betg out of 3+ years and thousands of players....thats a thing that makes u go Hmmmmmm....like the song

Their markets are seeded so it's not player vs. player for the most part.

[TheMoneyShot]

Their markets are seeded so it's not player vs. player for the most part.

This is what was posted from a different Forum. I thought you'd be interested in reading it.





I thought the better odds than Pinnacle with about the same liquidity was interesting.

[littlekona]

Their markets are seeded so it's not player vs. player for the most part.

whoever does the horses they are tied in directly with matchbook...they must have scripts that adjust odds when matches occur as both sites adjust after I match on fairlay

[Ap732]

Money good n i got.real.good.odds on nfl PIT-5.5 niceeeeee

[TheMoneyShot]

Money good n i got.real.good.odds on nfl PIT-5.5 niceeeeee

Glad it worked out for you.

[littlekona]

Money good n i got.real.good.odds on nfl PIT-5.5 niceeeeee

that was easiest money...never a doubt they would cover...Nice Pic!

[moojoo]

Littlekona owner of that site?

[betg]

prooly... everytime someone ask.... he's silent... otherwise so noisy that they are best

[franklissa]

Gonna give this site a shot

[franklissa]

Pretty impressed. Deposited 500 dollars yesterday for the Kings Lakers game. Took me a few minutes to figure out the site. The site isn't as user friendly as others however it does the job. Bet the whole amount on the Kings and they won. During the game I put my cash out address in, verified the address thru email and as soon as game was over it was graded. There was really no wait time. I then cash out and the funds were immediately sent. Been gambling online since 2003 and this was honestly the quickest payout I have ever received. Even the great Nitro takes 15 min to an hour for payout. Really impressed with fairlay

[betg]

DO NOT PLAY HERE!!! I Have also hundreds payouts without problem... then after I played higher and higher they have stolen 1.2BTC FROM ME!!! RED FLAG, SCAM BOOKIE, DO NOT PLAY HERE!!!

[littlekona]

Pretty impressed. Deposited 500 dollars yesterday for the Kings Lakers game. Took me a few minutes to figure out the site. The site isn't as user friendly as others however it does the job. Bet the whole amount on the Kings and they won. During the game I put my cash out address in, verified the address thru email and as soon as game was over it was graded. There was really no wait time. I then cash out and the funds were immediately sent. Been gambling online since 2003 and this was honestly the quickest payout I have ever received. Even the great Nitro takes 15 min to an hour for payout. Really impressed with fairlay

I was on kings too nice easy no worry win! I still use the old.fairlay site I'm used to it and it is easier for me to maneuver around esp w horse wagers and to find live events...you can use either site..Nice to get your funds Instant huh

[mrpapageorgio]

DO NOT PLAY HERE!!! I Have also hundreds payouts without problem... then after I played higher and higher they have stolen 1.2BTC FROM ME!!! RED FLAG, SCAM BOOKIE, DO NOT PLAY HERE!!!

Maybe had you actually placed a few bets with them instead of constantly depositing and withdrawing dozens of times without placing a bet, they wouldn't have red flagged you. You may as well have wore a big sign saying, "I'm using your site to wash my bitcoin and costing you plenty in withdrawal fees without placing a bet to offset it."

[franklissa]

Is it normal after two confirmations with fairlay that funds are not credited?

[littlekona]

deposit? mine normally credit after 1 sometimes a little delay but not much..refresh ure page and if that does not work hit support chat.. I have been sending to segwit address of late btw

[betg]

Maybe had you actually placed a few bets with them instead of constantly depositing and withdrawing dozens of times without placing a bet, they wouldn't have red flagged you. You may as well have wore a big sign saying, "I'm using your site to wash my bitcoin and costing you plenty in withdrawal fees without placing a bet to offset it."

Nothing in their terms a about that... anyway I have told them that I will play or they can put fees on my withdrawall but they have denied both... these greedy b..stards just decided to STOLE THEM! RED FLAG DO NOT PLAY THERE!!!

[TheMoneyShot]

Is it normal after two confirmations with fairlay that funds are not credited?

After 1 confirmation on the network... count 2-5 minutes.... then the funds are in your acct.

[TheMoneyShot]

DO NOT PLAY HERE!!! I Have also hundreds payouts without problem... then after I played higher and higher they have stolen 1.2BTC FROM ME!!! RED FLAG, SCAM BOOKIE, DO NOT PLAY HERE!!!

If one other person has an issue here.... I might consider stopping. Out of all the forums... you're the only one that had an issue with them.

[mrpapageorgio]

Nothing in their terms a about that... anyway I have told them that I will play or they can put fees on my withdrawall but they have denied both... these greedy b..stards just decided to STOLE THEM! RED FLAG DO NOT PLAY THERE!!!

Their ToC says you can’t abuse the site for money laundering and
Fairlay LLC reserves the right in its sole discretion, to refuse or cancel services, and/or refuse to distribute profits to any person for legitimate reasons, including, without limitation

[*]if Fairlay LLC has reason to believe that a person’s activities on the Site may be illegal;[*]if Fairlay LLC may be harmed by any fiscal or pecuniary damage due to anyone’s activities;[*]if Fairlay LLC consider that one or more operations on the Site were made in violation of this Agreement.

They’re going to refer to that anyway.

[Optional]

Their ToC says you can’t abuse the site for money laundering and
Fairlay LLC reserves the right in its sole discretion, to refuse or cancel services, and/or refuse to distribute profits to any person for legitimate reasons, including, without limitation

[*]if Fairlay LLC has reason to believe that a person’s activities on the Site may be illegal;[*]if Fairlay LLC may be harmed by any fiscal or pecuniary damage due to anyone’s activities;[*]if Fairlay LLC consider that one or more operations on the Site were made in violation of this Agreement.

They’re going to refer to that anyway.

You'll notice it specifies profits there.

Confiscating the deposit is not covered and AFAIK illegal in every Western country.


Players should treat this as a red flag for the book. A serious one.

[mrpapageorgio]

You'll notice it specifies profits there.

Confiscating the deposit is not covered and AFAIK illegal in every Western country.


Players should treat this as a red flag for the book. A serious one.

Considering he’s the only one with an issue, I believe there’s more to the story.

[Optional]

Considering he’s the only one with an issue, I believe there’s more to the story.

Yes he sounds suspicious.

1) The only time they should be confiscating deposits is if local laws require them to do that and remit the money to an official body. Not keep it themselves.

2) It doesn't matter how suspicous he seems to us. two wrongs don't make a right and from the details he has shared, if true, the book is the one far more in the wrong here.



I get that everyone wants to brush it off. But mark my words, management that makes unfair decisions once WILL do it again in the future.

We WILL talk about this incident again in the future I bet...

[raiders72001]

Yes he sounds suspicious.

1) The only time they should be confiscating deposits is if local laws require them to do that and remit the money to an official body. Not keep it themselves.

2) It doesn't matter how suspicous he seems to us. two wrongs don't make a right and from the details he has shared, if true, the book is the one far more in the wrong here.



I get that everyone wants to brush it off. But mark my words, management that makes unfair decisions once WILL do it again in the future.

We WILL talk about this incident again in the future I bet...

Agree.

[Optional]

Betballer is another one like Fairlay that started off with a bitcoin site that seemed genuine and had a likeable owner who obviously wanted to create a bettor friendly business.

But once the heat came on he soon made one unfair decision, which like here seemed kind of justifiable becasue the people penalized also 'looked' suspicious. But then came another and another. Until in the end even his partners were attacking him for being unfair and now it's all gone.

It's one thing to have good intentions starting out. It's another to make the tough but fair decisions you planned once financial reality sets in and the user base grows.

Fairness when the tough decisions come up is pretty much vital in my mind.

I wish we knew more facts about this one to be sure either way.

[littlekona]

Betballer is another one like Fairlay that started off with a bitcoin site that seemed genuine and had a likeable owner who obviously wanted to create a bettor friendly business.

But once the heat came on he soon made one unfair decision, which like here seemed kind of justifiable becasue the people penalized also 'looked' suspicious. But then came another and another. Until in the end even his partners were attacking him for being unfair and now it's all gone.

It's one thing to have good intentions starting out. It's another to make the tough but fair decisions you planned once financial reality sets in and the user base grows.

Fairness when the tough decisions come up is pretty much vital in my mind.

I wish we knew more facts about this one to be sure either way.

If i remember right that whole betballer thing was completely different w history of non pays and then some agent reopening and calling people for deposits offfering big bonus kinda shady and high risk imo..I think fairlay being an exchange is way less risky plus them being around for a while and only one case of withdrawal issue that comes from a guy who admits he’s not on up and up...we can only go by posters here and other forums who all have good reviews and report great odds and instant payouts...sbr really needs to give them a grade to start off and go from there

[raiders72001]

If i remember right that whole betballer thing was completely different w history of non pays and then some agent reopening and calling people for deposits offfering big bonus kinda shady and high risk imo..I think fairlay being an exchange is way less risky plus them being around for a while and only one case of withdrawal issue that comes from a guy who admits he’s not on up and up...we can only go by posters here and other forums who all have good reviews and report great odds and instant payouts...sbr really needs to give them a grade to start off and go from there

Exchanges that seed markets work as a sportsbook rather than a true exchange.

[littlekona]

Exchanges that seed markets work as a sportsbook rather than a true exchange.

But is fairlay seeding or are there professional market makers that do it? I see direct correlation between horse race markets on matchbook and fairlay and believe it is same market maker...they use scripts to instant change lines that tie into multi sites I believe