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    withdrawal keep getting declined by pinnacle

    on 5/12 i tried to make a withdrawal and was declined by pinnacle

    "Withdrawal Declined / Address Verification Required : Dear Pinnacle Client, As part of standard compliance regulations, Pinnacle are required to ensure that we have valid proof of identification and residency from all players. Regular checks are conducted on accounts where this information is outstanding. Your account has been identified as having incorrect, outstanding or expired information."

    i was very unhappy coz firstly i recently ran into a bit of financial crisis and really needed that money, secondly they locked my account totally without any notification and thirdly its not the first time it has happened. i only uploaded proof of residency at first but then they want me to verified id, credit card, everythin (which i already did twice in the past yr) and on 10/12 (5 freaking days later) my account was finially verified.

    "Dear Pinnacle Client,Thank you for submitting your valid ID and/or proof of address. No further documentation is required at this time. We have now fully reinstated your account access. We appreciate your cooperation.Regards,Compliance Department / Pinnaclewww.pinnacle.com"

    i tried to make withdrawal on the same day and was declined (10/12)

    "Dear Pinnacle Client,Your withdrawal request was declined. The reason we declined your withdrawal is you made a deposit and are now requesting a withdrawal without rolling (wagering) your deposit the minimum stated on our site, (three times).Please refer to our Terms and Conditions where we include information regarding fees that may apply to customer deposits and withdrawals, including that deposits made to an account without rolling the deposit three times will incur both withdrawal and processing fees.According to your current balance, a withdrawal request for the amount listed below may be processed without fees.The amount is: 460.01 NZD"

    then i tried to withdraw $459.78 NZD and was declined (you jst freakin told me i'm able to withdraw 460.01 NZD)

    "Dear Pinnacle Client,Your withdrawal request was declined. The reason we declined your withdrawal is you made a deposit and are now requesting a withdrawal without rolling (wagering) your deposit the minimum stated on our site, (three times)."

    i went to my account to check my last deposit was on 2/12 for 449.78 since then i've made wager of 2580.29, that's nearly 6 times of the deposit. i sent an email to their customer service, which they claim is open 24/7 a day 7days a week, and they finally replied on 12/12

    "Dear Client, Please be informed that you have met the rollover requirement. We apologize for the inconvenience caused. You may now resubmit your withdrawal request amounting to 459.78 NZD. We appreciate your cooperation. Best regards,"

    jst a minute later they sent me another email

    "
    Dear Client, Please be advised, that you can only roll-over your deposit after it has been made and after previous deposits have been rolled over. Any wagers placed before making deposit obviously don't count towards its rollover and deposits are being counted, for roll-over purposes, in order they come in.
    Your deposit from 12/2/2016 for 449.78 hasn't been rolled over yet."

    i tried to withdraw again after i received these 2 emails and was declined...

    "Dear Pinnacle Client,Your withdrawal request was declined. The reason we declined your withdrawal is you made a deposit and are now requesting a withdrawal without rolling (wagering) your deposit the minimum stated on our site, (three times).Please refer to our Terms and Conditions where we include information regarding fees that may apply to customer deposits and withdrawals, including that deposits made to an account without rolling the deposit three times will incur both withdrawal and processing fees.According to your current balance, a withdrawal request for the amount listed below may be processed without fees.The amount is: 10.01"

    wtf.. i double checked and in the past 4 weeks i made a total deposit of 1454.11 and total wager of 9236.00. if counting from my lastest deposit... 449.78 on 2/12 and total wager of 2580.29... so i have no idea how the f*** they came up with 10.01

    does anyone has the same problem with pinnacle? they may have the best odds but their customer service is really really bad.

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    They count the lower amount of risk/win when calculating rollover.

    Any chance the 2580.29 you have wagered since the last deposit was at average odds around $1.60? That would approximately account for the figures Pinny talk about.

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    i bet on mostly totals and point spreads so the odds r all around 1.90 or -110

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    They can make mistakes of course but we have a lot of Pinny users here and I can't recall the last time anyone had a problem with rollover calculation errors, so if I was you I'd probably tend to think they have it right, even if i can't understand exactly why.

    I guess it must have something to do with completing rollovers from previous deposits that were made when your account was not zeroed out first.

    Again if this was me. I'd ask how much more rollover you need to complete to be fee free for withdrawals and just do it. Or ask what the fee is to withdraw the balance now.

    Then in future I would make sure I had either completed the rollover for the previous deposit before depositing again. Or make sure my account is zeroed out before depositing.

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    666000898 22-Nov-16 Customer Deposit - Wirecard **** #...8578 415.27 534.03
    666000994 22-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 265.11 268.92 1
    666407240 23-Nov-16 Wager Won 512.60 781.52 Details
    666918238 25-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 247.52 534.00 1
    666999783 25-Nov-16 Wager Won 497.52 1,031.52 Details
    667624969 26-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 252.53 778.99 1
    668056062 27-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 262.61 516.38 1
    668153258 27-Nov-16 Wager Won 512.61 1,028.99 Details
    668605209 29-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 260.15 768.84 1
    668740599 29-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 270.27 498.57 1
    668789342 30-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 267.67 230.90 1
    669289322 1-Dec-16 Customer Deposit - Wirecard **** #...8578 589.06 819.96
    669289454 1-Dec-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 250.00 569.96 1
    669360282 1-Dec-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 252.52 317.44 1
    669550224 2-Dec-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 257.73 59.71 1
    669567180 2-Dec-16 Customer Deposit - Wirecard **** #...8578 449.78 509.49
    669567542 2-Dec-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 252.53 256.96 1
    669568327 2-Dec-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 250.00 6.96 1
    669650791 2-Dec-16 Wager Won 500.00 506.96 Details
    669659272 2-Dec-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 287.69 219.27 1
    669659303 2-Dec-16 Wager Refunded 287.69 506.96 Details
    669664475 2-Dec-16 Wager Won 502.53 1,009.49 Details
    669906582 3-Dec-16 Wager Won 507.73 1,517.22 Details
    670110399 3-Dec-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 262.60 1,254.62 1
    670625729 4-Dec-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 250.00 1,004.62 1
    670641426 4-Dec-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 262.60 742.02 1
    670946489 5-Dec-16 Wager Won 512.60 1,254.62 Details
    672135132 9-Dec-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 344.83 909.79 1
    672291127 9-Dec-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 450.00 459.79 1


    i dun bet on odds under $1.80. as u can see i bet alot. there's no way i haven't roll over the required wager

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    and i didn't make any deposit prior to 22/11
    658048587 1-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 250.00 1
    658149126 1-Nov-16 Wager Won 500.00 Details
    658387050 2-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 257.73 1
    658401375 2-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 245.10 1
    658465078 2-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 265.11 1
    658476840 2-Nov-16 Wager Won 515.11 Details
    658479349 2-Nov-16 Wager Won 507.73 Details
    658849091 3-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 257.73 1
    658884487 3-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 262.60 1
    659232678 4-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 183.82 1
    659250311 4-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 285.06 1
    659250499 4-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 267.67 1
    659277349 4-Nov-16 Wager Won 535.06 Details
    659290998 4-Nov-16 Wager Won 433.82 Details
    659293927 4-Nov-16 Wager Won 517.67 Details
    659299374 4-Nov-16 Wager Won 507.73 Details
    659804911 5-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 300.12 1
    659957130 6-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 260.15 1
    659959515 6-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 270.27 1
    660402624 6-Nov-16 Wager Won 520.27 Details
    660755164 8-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 262.60 1
    660755729 8-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 272.63 1
    660835061 8-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 100.00 1
    661020984 9-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 245.10 1
    661023848 9-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 257.73 1
    661108390 9-Nov-16 Wager Won 507.73 Details
    661253308 10-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 272.63 1
    661632969 11-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 285.06 1
    661657949 11-Nov-16 Wager Won 535.06 Details
    662037465 12-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 257.73 1
    662110382 12-Nov-16 Wager Won 507.73 Details
    662111794 12-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 270.27 1
    662658176 14-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 275.03 1
    662662593 14-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 262.60 1
    662708133 14-Nov-16 Wager Won 525.03 Details
    662946864 15-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 270.27 1
    662951331 15-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 262.60 1
    663233804 16-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 250.00 1
    663325248 16-Nov-16 Wager Won 520.27 Details
    663529703 17-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 252.53 1
    663893663 18-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 262.60 1
    663897763 18-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 275.03 1
    663972772 18-Nov-16 Wager Won 512.60 Details
    663980210 18-Nov-16 Wager Won 525.03 Details
    663988795 18-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 287.69 1
    664003755 18-Nov-16 Wager Won 537.69 Details
    664546613 19-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 272.63 1
    664558091 19-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 280.27 1
    664568669 19-Nov-16 Wager Won 522.63 Details
    664585796 19-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 272.63 1
    664586686 19-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 277.78 1
    665077673 20-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 252.53 1
    665079690 20-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 280.27 1
    665289374 21-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 280.27 1
    665998787 22-Nov-16 1 Wager(s) Placed 262.60 1
    666000898 22-Nov-16 Customer Deposit - Wirecard **** #...8578 415.27

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    "Dear Client, After careful review, we confirmed that you have met the rollover requirement. You may resubmit your wire withdrawal request at any moment.

    We apologize for any inconvenience caused. Best regards,"


    it took them 8 days to "careful review" and admit their mistake. nice pinnacle

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    "Dear Pinnacle Client,
    Your withdrawal request was declined. The reason we declined your withdrawal is you made a deposit and are now requesting a withdrawal without rolling (wagering) your deposit the minimum stated on our site, (three times)."

    they admit their mistake and still declined my withdrawal....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TBsp75 View Post
    "Dear Client, After careful review, we confirmed that you have met the rollover requirement. You may resubmit your wire withdrawal request at any moment.

    We apologize for any inconvenience caused. Best regards,"


    it took them 8 days to "careful review" and admit their mistake. nice pinnacle
    Quote Originally Posted by TBsp75 View Post
    "Dear Pinnacle Client,
    Your withdrawal request was declined. The reason we declined your withdrawal is you made a deposit and are now requesting a withdrawal without rolling (wagering) your deposit the minimum stated on our site, (three times)."

    they admit their mistake and still declined my withdrawal....

    Well it sure sounds like they made a mistake somewhere this time! (he says eating his own words)

    No idea whats up but if you shoot in a Sportsbook Complaint form SBR can probably find a manager in threre who will find out and fix it.

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    ok i'll try that. thank u very much

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    after i went to Sportsbook Complaint and they sent me another email

    "Dear Client,




    We apologize for any inconvenience caused. Kindly resubmit your withdrawal again.



    Best regards,
    Customer Service Department / Pinnacle,
    customerservice@pinnacle.com
    www.pinnacle.com"



    i've tried to withdraw and was declined again.

    "
    Dear Pinnacle Client,
    Your withdrawal request was declined. The reason we declined your withdrawal is you made a deposit and are now requesting a withdrawal without rolling (wagering) your deposit the minimum stated on our site, (three times).
    Please refer to our Terms and Conditions where we include information regarding fees that may apply to customer deposits and withdrawals, including that deposits made to an account without rolling the deposit three times will incur both withdrawal and processing fees.
    According to your current balance, a withdrawal request for the amount listed below may be processed without fees.
    The amount is: 10"

    they must be doin a prank on me lol


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    LOL... it is starting to sound like a prank.

    Sounds like they at least WANT to get you paid.

    Hopefully fixed soon. Might have to wait until morning now for SBR admin to do any more though.

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