[michlafon15]

I deposited $500 via ** 2 weeks ago and ran it into over $17,000. I cashed out a 3,000 check that I've already received, I cashed out book to book (5dimes to Heritege) took about 3 hours. I cashed out ** 4 different times that took about 20 hours each. I received close to $8,000 in less then 2 weeks. I feel that is very good.

[unusialsusp5]

if this is true it would unprecedented in this dodge and stall payout era that has existed in the last few years. however, not seeing tony in that generous of a mood to fulfill these requests with dubious glee and this level of promptness. especially the book to book transfer which he abhors doing. he despises chronic cashout players without trepidation and has been known to use every trick in the book to discourage this type of activity. you win fine, just leave it in is his trademark and standard business policy.

[jtoler]

Sup Tony. Hey would y'all ever consider doing 2nd half lines for high school football?

[HedgeHog]

if this is true it would unprecedented in this dodge and stall payout era that has existed in the last few years. however, not seeing tony in that generous of a mood to fulfill these requests with dubious glee and this level of promptness. especially the book to book transfer which he abhors doing. he despises chronic cashout players without trepidation and has been known to use every trick in the book to discourage this type of activity. you win fine, just leave it in is his trademark and standard business policy.

Been doing transfers from 5D to Heritage for years. Always same day and never any problems.

[RonPaul2008]

They pay quickly and have lots of options, but they can and will heavily limit and apply delays to sharps. A decent book but by no means the best.

[Optional]

I deposited $500 via ** 2 weeks ago and ran it into over $17,000. I cashed out a 3,000 check that I've already received, I cashed out book to book (5dimes to Heritege) took about 3 hours. I cashed out ** 4 different times that took about 20 hours each. I received close to $8,000 in less then 2 weeks. I feel that is very good.

The last Posters' Poll agrees with you.

[luctens]

I deposited $500 via ** 2 weeks ago and ran it into over $17,000. I cashed out a 3,000 check that I've already received, I cashed out book to book (5dimes to Heritege) took about 3 hours. I cashed out ** 4 different times that took about 20 hours each. I received close to $8,000 in less then 2 weeks. I feel that is very good.

"5Dimes best online sportsbook". Now that really is a good one. Got any more jokes?

You must be a complete mug to claim that 5Dimes are the best online bookmaker, as 5Dimes close down any smart bettors, so if you're still able to bet there after any length of time, you must be a complete mug.

For any smart bettors that know what they're doing, Pinnacle is by far and away the number 1 bookmaker in the world.

[Optional]

I'm not sure if you have ever used them Luctens? But they are pretty damn good in a lot of respects.

They promote themselves as a rec book but even when they do limit people, it's usually no lower than $50 and you still have the ability to rebet as many times as you want. Unreasonable books just slam a $1 or $5 limit on people. 5Dimes are slow and very reasonable with limiting by comparison. You're much more likely to be limited for betting a bad line than being sharp too. I know people who are 6 figures ahead at 5Dimes and still able to make reasonable bets.

Just because someone has a full time job and only bets recreationaly does not mean they are stupid to be happy with a shop like 5Dimes. They also offer wider sport coverage and more exotic options than Pinny, which is what draws in a lot of rec players more than the best odds.

[triplecrown333]

i would try pinnacle if they accept americans, but so far 5dimes is the only option for me...very happy with 5dimes btw...

[michlafon15]

I use 3 books
5dimes
Heritage
Betonline

I like all 3 very well but in that order I was shocked how quick this all took place as well I also did a small cashout with heritage that was within 24 hours via **

[michlafon15]

I've been using these books for years and never had limits put on me and have had many sizable cashouts

[luctens]

I'm not sure if you have ever used them Luctens? But they are pretty damn good in a lot of respects.

They promote themselves as a rec book but even when they do limit people, it's usually no lower than $50 and you still have the ability to rebet as many times as you want. Unreasonable books just slam a $1 or $5 limit on people. 5Dimes are slow and very reasonable with limiting by comparison. You're much more likely to be limited for betting a bad line than being sharp too. I know people who are 6 figures ahead at 5Dimes and still able to make reasonable bets.

Just because someone has a full time job and only bets recreationaly does not mean they are stupid to be happy with a shop like 5Dimes. They also offer wider sport coverage and more exotic options than Pinny, which is what draws in a lot of rec players more than the best odds.

Yes I have used them. Closed me down after a few weeks. 5Dimes limiting you down to $50 whereas other bookmakers limit you down to nothing doesn't really make 5Dimes that much more reasonable than those other bookmakers that limit you down to nothing, as even if they do limit people down to $50 instead of nothing, it's still 5Dimes telling you to go and do one and that they don't want your business, as $50 is basically a nothing bet and is tantamount to them closing your account, as the kind of people they are shutting down are smart bettors that want to bet a lot more than $50. And re-betting is no good, as with each bet most of the time the price will go down each time, very quickly down to a price that a smart bettor doesn't want to bet that selection at any more, so even a $50 limit with re-betting available is useless and in reality no different to the other bookmakers that limit you down to nothing, as in reality it is just the same as them closing your account.

They aren't the worst at limiting, but that's not saying much with the other complete filth that's out there, but the fact of the matter is, if they make a decision that you are likely to be a long term winner, they will close you down, it's as simple as that, so when it's all said and done, if they think you are a smart bettor that is likely to be a consistent long term winner, they will shut you down, so in the end they really aren't much different at all than all of the other crappy bookmakers that close down smart bettors.

You saying you know people that are six figures up at 5Dimes really doesn't mean much, the context of what they've been betting on, how many bets they've had and a myriad of other stuff is more important. The fact of the matter is, if your mates that are six figures up at 5Dimes are still able to bet there, that means that 5Dimes don't deem them to be smart bettors, as if they came to the conclusion that they are smart bettors, 5Dimes would have shut them down by now.

I never said anybody was stupid to like 5Dimes, they are a good book, just like other bookmakers that shut down smart bettors are good books, but as with the other books that shut down smart bettors, they are only good for as long as you can use them, which isn't long at all if you are a smart bettor. So given that if you actually get any good at being a smart bettor, 5Dimes will shut you down whereas Pinnacle will take bets from anybody, for anybody to say that 5Dimes is the best online bookmaker ahead of a bookmaker like Pinnacle is simply laughable.

[luctens]

I've been using these books for years and never had limits put on me and have had many sizable cashouts

There's a very clear reason for that, which is that they don't see you as a smart bettor. If you get to any sort of a high standard at sports betting, you'll soon see these bookmakers shutting you down.

[Optional]

Yes I have used them. Closed me down after a few weeks. 5Dimes limiting you down to $50 whereas other bookmakers limit you down to nothing doesn't really make 5Dimes that much more reasonable than those other bookmakers that limit you down to nothing, as even if they do limit people down to $50 instead of nothing, it's still 5Dimes telling you to go and do one and that they don't want your business, as $50 is basically a nothing bet and is tantamount to them closing your account, as the kind of people they are shutting down are smart bettors that want to bet a lot more than $50. And re-betting is no good, as with each bet most of the time the price will go down each time, very quickly down to a price that a smart bettor doesn't want to bet that selection at any more, so even a $50 limit with re-betting available is useless and in reality no different to the other bookmakers that limit you down to nothing, as in reality it is just the same as them closing your account.

They aren't the worst at limiting, but that's not saying much with the other complete filth that's out there, but the fact of the matter is, if they make a decision that you are likely to be a long term winner, they will close you down, it's as simple as that, so when it's all said and done, if they think you are a smart bettor that is likely to be a consistent long term winner, they will shut you down, so in the end they really aren't much different at all than all of the other crappy bookmakers that close down smart bettors.

You saying you know people that are six figures up at 5Dimes really doesn't mean much, the context of what they've been betting on, how many bets they've had and a myriad of other stuff is more important. The fact of the matter is, if your mates that are six figures up at 5Dimes are still able to bet there, that means that 5Dimes don't deem them to be smart bettors, as if they came to the conclusion that they are smart bettors, 5Dimes would have shut them down by now.

I never said anybody was stupid to like 5Dimes, they are a good book, just like other bookmakers that shut down smart bettors are good books, but as with the other books that shut down smart bettors, they are only good for as long as you can use them, which isn't long at all if you are a smart bettor. So given that if you actually get any good at being a smart bettor, 5Dimes will shut you down whereas Pinnacle will take bets from anybody, for anybody to say that 5Dimes is the best online bookmaker ahead of a bookmaker like Pinnacle is simply laughable.

Re $50 bets useless. There was story on here a year or two ago where someone rebet something 400 times to make a $20,000 bet

They really are slow to limit usually. AFAIK the only reason they will shut someone down totally that fast is if you chase steam or bad lines. Even the sharpest bettors I know (that take early lines) are not generally booted. Just limited and/or put on trader review. There really is players there who win year after year and are well ahead and not booted.

The main guy I am thinking of that is way up is definitely a square by definition. He barely understands the math of betting. He just happens to be very good with his main sport and treats that sort of capping like a full time job. IE: it shows that 5dimes don't just care about winners, they care about how you do it.

There's a very clear reason for that, which is that they don't see you as a smart bettor. If you get to any sort of a high standard at sports betting, you'll soon see these bookmakers shutting you down.

There really is not a clear reason for that. This person is just another example that regular winning bettors are not penalized by default at 5Dimes.

If you're idea of "smart" betting is chasing steam, then you won't last long at any rec book. But you are simply wrong to say they only limit smart people. It's actually the less smart people who just follow what others tell them is an exploitable angle and than complain bitterly as they are actually not smart enough to have recognized it's not a sustainable plan.

[luctens]

Re $50 bets useless. There was story on here a year or two ago where someone rebet something 400 times to make a $20,000 bet

They really are slow to limit usually. AFAIK the only reason they will shut someone down totally that fast is if you chase steam or bad lines. Even the sharpest bettors I know (that take early lines) are not generally booted. Just limited and/or put on trader review. There really is players there who win year after year and are well ahead and not booted.

The main guy I am thinking of that is way up is definitely a square by definition. He barely understands the math of betting. He just happens to be very good with his main sport and treats that sort of capping like a full time job. IE: it shows that 5dimes don't just care about winners, they care about how you do it.





There really is not a clear reason for that. This person is just another example that regular winning bettors are not penalized by default at 5Dimes.

If you're idea of "smart" betting is chasing steam, then you won't last long at any rec book. But you are simply wrong to say they only limit smart people. It's actually the less smart people who just follow what others tell them is an exploitable angle and than complain bitterly as they are actually not smart enough to have recognized it's not a sustainable plan.

Whatever that story of somebody re-betting something 400 times, if he managed to re-bet it that many times and got the same or even close to the same original price on each bet, I expect that was an anomaly not the norm with the traders being asleep at the wheel. The reason a bookmaker would limit somebody to $50, is because they think he is a long term winning smart bettor, and that firstly, they want that $50 limit to get the message to that person to bugger off, or if that person does bet the $50 on a line, they respect that person that much to limit him to $50 in the first place that most of the time they will reduce the price very quickly after the first bet and onwards the more he keeps betting the $50 limit on that selection. 5Dimes certainly wouldn't limit anybody to $50, just to then let him bet that $50 40 times at the same price, so that story is most likely very much an anomaly.

I don't chase steam or bad lines at all, and I wasn't booted or shut down totally as your definition would be, at the end I could probably bet $50 or maybe $100 max on the absolute biggest games, so maybe not a booting or a total shutting down under your definition, but definitely a booting, a total shutting down and completely useless to me.

Your comment of 5Dimes not caring that you win, but how you do it, is rubbish. If they think you are a long term winning smart bettor, whatever your betting strategy is to become that long term winner, their aim is to identify you and give you the boot, it's as simple as that. It may take longer for you to get identified and closed down than with other bookmakers and some smart bettors will obviously slip through their net, but they are still the same as other crap bookmakers in that they are constantly on the lookout trying to root out any of these long term winning smart bettors, and a boot out will still be the result in the end for these players with 5Dimes once they've identified you as a long term winning smart bettor.

And about the guy that posted about 5Dimes, nowhere is he saying he is a regular winning bettor, all he's said is that he turned $500 into $17k and has made a few big cashouts in his time. That doesn't mean he is a long term winner or smart bettor, and given he hasn't been given the boot in the years he's been playing with any of the bookmakers he's playing with, it's pretty safe to say he isn't a smart bettor.

My idea of smart bettors isn't chasing steam, when I say smart bettors, I mean somebody that can accurately predict the correct price, and bet when the price is better than the price they think it is. I'm not wrong at all to say that they only limit smart people. The clear aim of any of these bookmakers is to close down any long term winning smart bettors. Whether you classify people chasing steam or whatever as different is neither here nor there, I'm just trying to make it simple by when I am saying smart bettor in terms of bettors that bookmakers close down, I mean anybody who is long term unprofitable for a bookmaker, and when any player comes in that is long term unprofitable for any bookmaker, whatever their betting strategy is that makes them unprofitable for the bookmaker, all bookmakers except from the handful of no restriction bookmakers have the aim to identify those long term unprofitable for a bookmaker customers, and boot them out, it's as simple as that.

[Optional]

My idea of smart bettors isn't chasing steam, when I say smart bettors, I mean somebody that can accurately predict the correct price, and bet when the price is better than the price they think it is. I'm not wrong at all to say that they only limit smart people.

1) That's the correct definition of a smart bettor.

2) If there was some way to prove it I would lay you at big odds that 5D do not boot people for being that good. They are far more like Pinny in valuing the information that the 5% of genuine smart bettors out there give them. They put them on trader review and collar them with limits but are even careful about that as they want to keep them.

[ParlayKing1986]

If 5d was consistent on faster btc payouts like their competitors then they would take the crown.

[portman]

Do they still limit accounts? Great book indeed!

[luctens]

If 5d was consistent on faster btc payouts like their competitors then they would take the crown.

5Dimes will never take the crown and will never have a chance of taking the crown as they don't take bets from everybody at the same standard betting limits, so faster Bitcoin payouts or not, for that reason 5Dimes will never even have a chance of being number 1.

[luctens]

Do they still limit accounts? Great book indeed!

Of course they limit accounts for goodness sake, there's only a handful of bookmakers in the entire world that don't limit accounts, and 5Dimes most definitely is not one of them.

[unluckysob]

To make 400 bets would probably take400 minutes. Which is about 6.5 hours. Maybe my computer is just slow.

[michlafon15]

Lets clear this up

I deposit 500 at a time about once a month i cash out about half the deposits for the max Mllllllgram cashout at that book which these days isnt much and leave the rest in and try to get up and cash again .....im not a long term guy that is gonna kill any of these books i gamble with my money but i cashout enough that im not a long term mush either.... all three books have been good but 5dimes done a great job with what i requested on this particular cash out

[michlafon15]

I usually wont bet more then 20% of my bankroll on any one bet so i dont know what to say id say i manage my money ok i might not be smart in your eyes but i also work for a living a make it pretty well so if your the kinda player that i am i would say 5dimes is a good place for you

[survive]

Is it just me or can you not use the classic site layout on mobile anymore? I used to have the option but lately it hasn't been working, hate the new layout

[luctens]

I usually wont bet more then 20% of my bankroll on any one bet so i dont know what to say id say i manage my money ok i might not be smart in your eyes but i also work for a living a make it pretty well so if your the kinda player that i am i would say 5dimes is a good place for you

So you "usually won't bet more than 20% of your bankroll on any one bet", and "you'd say you manage your money ok".

Give me a break. Smart bettors only bet around 1% of their bankroll on any one bet, if you're betting anymore than that and especially anywhere near 20% of your bankroll on any one bet, then that's simply a recipe for you inevitably going broke.

The fact of the matter is, if you ever learnt any betting skills such as bankroll management and a myriad of other things and actually ever became good enough to be a long term winning smart bettor, 5Dimes wouldn't be anywhere near your best online sportsbook as it wouldn't be long before they close you down.

People that actually know what they are doing would never say 5Dimes is anywhere near the best online sportsbook in the world, they would without hesitation always say that Pinnacle is the number 1 bookmaker in the world all day long, as unlike 5Dimes, if you get good enough to be a long term winner with Pinnacle, you will never be closed down and you can always keep on betting as normal.

[Alfa1234]

So you "usually won't bet more than 20% of your bankroll on any one bet", and "you'd say you manage your money ok".

Give me a break. Smart bettors only bet around 1% of their bankroll on any one bet, if you're betting anymore than that and especially anywhere near 20% of your bankroll on any one bet, then that's simply a recipe for you inevitably going broke.

The fact of the matter is, if you ever learnt any betting skills such as bankroll management and a myriad of other things and actually ever became good enough to be a long term winning smart bettor, 5Dimes wouldn't be anywhere near your best online sportsbook as it wouldn't be long before they close you down.

People that actually know what they are doing would never say 5Dimes is anywhere near the best online sportsbook in the world, they would without hesitation always say that Pinnacle is the number 1 bookmaker in the world all day long, as unlike 5Dimes, if you get good enough to be a long term winner with Pinnacle, you will never be closed down and you can always keep on betting as normal.

Pinnacle is a great book, but not so good for recreational players. Cashouts require a 5x rollover of the deposit. They offer fewer "exotic" options like teasers and props... The fact of the matter is, you should accept 99% of players are not pro, but bet for fun and for them 5dimes is great.