Originally Posted by
luctens
You say "I plainly said that I KNOW I would go to the casino at some point IF I didn't get an immediate payout on my wins!" That's an addiction right there. You clearly saying that if you don't make a withdrawal straight away, you know you would go to the casino. The fact is, if you didn't have an addiction, you wouldn't have to get an immediate payout, you could simply let the money be in the account for as long as you want, but it clearly shows that you're an addict that you can't leave the money in your account for any length of time as you know you wouldn't be able to stop yourself going to the casino. If you can't see that's an addiction right there, then you're in denial and deluded.
You say "And if this idiot says that he could just leave a 1000 dollars in his account and NEVER go to the casino & gamble it", "Would he just leave his money in there until his "addiction" made him bet a football game one saturday?" If I wanted to make further bets with that money and I didn't need to withdraw that money, then I would simply leave the money in the account until I came to place my next bet. No casino, no nothing. Just leave the money in the account waiting for the next bet. If you've not got an addiction that wouldn't be a problem, but that's obviously where your addiction comes in and necessitates your immediate payout otherwise you wouldn't be able to stop yourself chucking your money away.
You say "If the guy says he could have 1000 in an account and lose 100 of it down to $900 on casino and then just say "that's it, I quit, I'm not losing any more than 100" Then I'd call him a flat out liar!" and "let's see if the guy says that he CAN leave money in an account and not gamble it all away if he starts losing. Like I said, I'd think he was flat out lying if he said that!" Firstly, I've never bet on casino games in my life, as I can clearly see they are the ultimate mug and addict games of the lot. But let's just say that $100 bet was on a sports bet because that's the only possibility in your example, as I have never and will never go near casino games ever. If I had $1000 in my account, placed a $100 sports bet and it lost and I would then have $900 in my account, then if there was no further bets I needed to place in that account and if I needed to withdraw that money, then yes, I would simply withdraw that money. I'm not "a flat out liar" for saying that whatsoever, it's simply the truth. You obviously can't relate to that sort of betting, as people that aren't addicts bet very rationally and in a common sense fashion, whereas addicts like you will chase your losses into oblivion.
You say "HOW MANY TIMES WOULD HE STOP HIMSELF FROM LOSING IT ALL BEFORE HE GOT A PAYOUT! LOL 5, 10 times? Our WHOLE point is to NOT ever have to try & stop ourselves from losing if we start losing! Our point is to get the money out BEFORE we ever have that urge to go into the casino!" It's not a question of me "stopping myself" going onto the casino and losing it all, as I simply don't have a gambling addiction. I could leave money in a betting account for weeks, months or years and I wouldn't chuck it away at any point, as I'm not a gambling addict and I have no issues whatsoever with controlling any type of addiction, as I don't have one, which obviously the same can't be said with you, as you sound like you get into an utterly desperate state with these casino games. So it's not a question of "how many times I could myself losing before I got a payout", I simply would never chuck my money away on the casino or whatever, as I'm not a gambling addict.
You say "Our point is to get the money out BEFORE we ever have that urge to go into the casino!" You are in your own little world here. Nobody that isn't a gambling addict needs to get the money out before they get "that urge to go to the casino". It's only addicts that need to do that, as everybody else can control themselves not to chuck it all away on the casino, whilst addicts can't control themselves.
You say "And leaving money in an online gambling account instead of getting a payout is almost gambling suicide to EVERY one of us!!" No it isn't. Again you're in your own little world here. It's only "almost gambling suicide" to gambling addicts, as everybody else who isn't a gambling addict can control themselves and knows that they can leave money in a betting account for as long as they want, whereas addicts know that if they leave the money in the account for any length of time, they won't be able to control themselves not to gamble it all away. That's the difference, normal punters can control themselves, gambling addicts, like yourself, can't.
You ask "wHEN the hell does he suggest getting a payout? LOL" It's very simple. I make a withdrawal whenever I want to. Whether that's because I don't need to place any further bets in that account for the foreseeable future or for whatever reason it may be that I need to make a withdrawal, I simply make a withdrawal whenever I want. None of my withdrawals are necessitated by urges or compulsions to gamble all the money away or anything like that, I simply make a withdrawal whenever I want. And that's the difference, I have no addiction or anything like that and therefore I can keep my money in a betting account for as long as I want and I can make a withdrawal whenever I want without any risk of gambling the money away, whereas you are racing to the withdrawal button as quickly as possible otherwise you won't be able to stop yourself gambling all your money away on casino games. And the difference is, I'm a normal, rational thinking, common sense punter with no addiction, and you are a gambling addict. If you can't see the difference in that accepting that you are a gambling addict, then you're simply in denial and deluding yourself.
You say "I konw it is 4:41 in the morning and if I had any money in an account I'd prob. go gamble it right now." They are not the words of a normal punter, they are the words of a desperate gambling addict that has the compulsion to gamble at any time of the day or night.
You say "BUT even if he could do that, then if he didn't get a payout immediately then he's an idiot, and it would be a day or two & the $900 would be down to $800 and then he could say "that's it, I quit again" LOL When the hell does he get his money out? THAT IS THE POINT!", "He is missing the point that leaving money in a gambling account is a literal ticking time bomb!" and "You may win up to $10000 like you did, or even more, but if you don't get it out, then you COULD or MIGHT end up losing it all."
If when I requested a withdrawal and the payout didn't get processed immediately and it was in the account available to be reversed or whatever, then I would just wait for the withdrawal to be processed, it really is very simple. The $900 wouldn't go down to $800 or anything as I've requested the withdrawal and I'd simply wait for the withdrawal to get processed. You ask "When the hell does he get his money out? THAT IS THE POINT!". It really is very simple. It works like this: I request a withdrawal and I wait for the withdrawal to get processed. Done. That's it. No reversing of the withdrawal, no playing with the funds on anything before the withdrawal gets processed, nothing at all, just wait for the withdrawal to get processed.
Leaving money in a gambling account is only a "literal ticking time bomb!" for an addict that can't control themselves not to chuck their money away. For a normal sports bettor that has no addiction or anything, it's not an issue whatsoever.
You say "You may win up to $10000 like you did, or even more, but if you don't get it out, then you COULD or MIGHT end up losing it all." Not for me, or for anybody else that hasn't got a gambling problem. Anybody without a gambling problem can leave money in a betting account for weeks, months, years, whatever, it really doesn't matter how long, as because they haven't got a gambling problem, they won't be chucking the money down the drain, as they can easily control themselves.
So let's compare me and you. I'm a disciplined, rational and common sense bettor that can leave any amount of money in a betting account for any length of time without any risk gambling it away or anything at any point, whether a bookmaker processes a withdrawal immediately or in 2 or 3 days or whatever doesn't make a difference to me as I won't dip back into those funds and gamble it away, I've never bet on casino games in my life, I don't chase losses and I can bet whenever I feel like it and I can take breaks from betting whenever I like.
Compare that to you, a compulsive, addicted gambler that needs immediate payouts otherwise they won't be able to stop themselves going on casino games, can't stop themselves dipping back into their money if a bookmaker accepts a withdrawal but doesn't process it immediately, you compulsively bet on casino games, you aggressively chase your losses until there's nothing left, and you have urges to gamble at any time of the day or night.
I'm just one example of a normal bettor that doesn't have a gambling addiction and that is in complete control of their gambling. And if you can't see how you are so far removed from that and on completely the other end of the scale in that you are a gambling addict that needs to give up all forms of gambling to recover, if you can't see that, then you are completely deluded.
The trouble with you is that you think your urges and compulsions to not be able to control yourself not to go on the casino if you don't get an immediate payout, you not being able to leave money in your betting account for any length of time without chucking it all away in the casino, you having the urges to gamble at any time of the day or night, you not being able to walk away after losing a bet without having to chase your losses, and you feeling that money in your betting account is a literal ticking time bomb, the trouble with you is, you think all of this stuff is normal and you think all of these feelings and emotions are felt by the majority of normal gamblers.
I've got news for you, it isn't normal, and normal gamblers don't get the feeling and emotions that you do. Only gambling addicts have these sorts of feelings and are not able to control themselves in such a way. So you need to accept that the feelings and emotions that you have with gambling are not that of a normal gambler, they are the feelings and emotions of a gambling addict, and the quicker you accept in your own mind that you are a gambling addict and the quicker you accept in your own mind that the only way to get rid of these feelings and emotions that you're having and to recover from your addiction is to stop all forms of gambling and remove yourself from gambling altogether, the quicker you can accept all of that, the better chance you have of recovering from your gambling addiction.
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