[rangerz2478]

Just another new book out there who refuses to take action from anyone who wins any money. When the account was created, was able to place 3 bitcoin bets without issues. Now I cannot even place a 0.5 btc wager.

STAY AWAY!

[Optional]

Honestly, a ~$300 limit is not unreasonable if they think you are sharp.

No reason to avoid them for that. In fact a bit of fair player management is actually a good sign they know what they are doing. Kind of concerns me a little how some bitcoin books seem a bit laissez faire about it.

[Hareeba!]

Wish I could get $300 bets on at many of the books which have limited me!

[rangerz2478]

Where did I say I can get $300 bets? I am saying I CANNOT even get 0.5 btc wagers. Two weeks into having an account and they do this? This can't be defended.

[Krashman]

Where did I say I can get $300 bets? I am saying I CANNOT even get 0.5 btc wagers. Two weeks into having an account and they do this? This can't be defended.

Another chicken shit sportsbook

[PharaohUB]

Where did I say I can get $300 bets? I am saying I CANNOT even get 0.5 btc wagers. Two weeks into having an account and they do this? This can't be defended.

So what is your limit?

[Optional]

Where did I say I can get $300 bets? I am saying I CANNOT even get 0.5 btc wagers. Two weeks into having an account and they do this? This can't be defended.

0.5btc = over $325

[rangerz2478]

0.5btc = over $325

Opti you are clearly not reading my first post correctly. I did not say I can get 0.5 I can't. I'm well aware of the conversions.

[rangerz2478]

So what is your limit?

No way of knowing. I tried multiple 0.1 btc wagers that were declined tonight as well. I have screenshots I took of this but can't get them to post.

[Optional]

Opti you are clearly not reading my first post correctly. I did not say I can get 0.5 I can't. I'm well aware of the conversions.

Are you drinking??

So you're first post is actually trying to say you can't bet $325 and that is a huge problem... is that more correct?

Spell out the actual issue if you want to bash the book any further please.

[Optional]

Or fill in a sportsbook complaint and the admin guys will look at it for you.

[rangerz2478]

Are you drinking??

So you're first post is actually trying to say you can't bet $325 and that is a huge problem... is that more correct?

Spell out the actual issue if you want to bash the book any further please.

Seriously man? What is your problem right now? I don't understand why you are having an issue with this one.

In my first post I said I was able to place 3 btc wagers when I first created the account. I was able to bet anywhere from 1 btc to 3 btc without any issues whatsoever.

Then simply as a point of reference, I said I cannot even get my 0.5 btc wagers accepted. (just as an example) I have no idea what the actual max wager on the account is as there is no "max bet" button. But I clearly have been significantly limited after having my account for just two weeks.

Your response that a $300 limit is not unreasonable didn't make sense because that is NOT my limit. I can't even get that amount accepted.

The actual issue has been spelled out quite clearly, and it's embarrassing you just used the "are you drinking" line on something that I have been quite clear on.

[Optional]

Well my issue was you telling me I cant read. It was you that mentioned .5 btc. And like I said 300 bucks isn't unreasonable. Not sure what other response you were looking for. Have you never been limited before? Or read the forum about what unreasonable limits actually are? I am not the one that had a go at you. You got into me!


#1... if you are not a steam chaser and have not been hitting bad lines, then take being limited as a bit of a badge of honor for being too good for them.

#2... work out what your damn limits are (it aint that hard to keep trying to bet less until you find out) and then ask them whats going on in case its just an error.

#3... they can limit you to $1 if they want. And if it is just you then it's zero problem for anyone else or any reason to avoid the book. It only becomes a problem if they start doing it unfairly. If you think that is the case with you then please do go ahead and fill out the complaint form.

[rangerz2478]

Well my issue was you telling me I cant read. It was you that mentioned .5 btc. And like I said 300 bucks isn't unreasonable. Not sure what other response you were looking for. Have you never been limited before? Or read the forum about what unreasonable limits actually are? I am not the one that had a go at you. You got into me!


#1... if you are not a steam chaser and have not been hitting bad lines, then take being limited as a bit of a badge of honor for being too good for them.

#2... work out what your damn limits are (it aint that hard to keep trying to bet less until you find out) and then ask them whats going on in case its just an error.

#3... they can limit you to $1 if they want. And if it is just you then it's zero problem for anyone else or any reason to avoid the book. It only becomes a problem if they start doing it unfairly. If you think that is the case with you then please do go ahead and fill out the complaint form.

I had a go at you first? I don't know how to even respond to that. I'll just focus on your 3 questions.

1.) I have not bet ANY steam, ANY bad lines. Every single bet I have placed has been on live NHL.

2.) The limits are NOT consistent so it's not that easy to figure out "what my damn limits are." (again, something I am astonished to hear from you) As I said before, I had 0.1 btc wagers rejected tonight. I have contacted them multiple times regarding the issue and have not gotten a single answer outside of "the manager will check it."

3.) You are telling me I (or you) should not warn people about a book that will limit you after weeks because you win? People have the right to choose to play where ever they want, but if I heard someone else post an experience like this with a book, I would NOT play there and would appreciate hearing that experience so I don't waste my time depositing into a book that will limit me within weeks if I win. I haven't bet anything resembling a bad line.

It is NOT standard procedure for any book to limit someone who wins within 2 weeks. I have been limited by 15+ books, I am not new to this. But it IS the first time a book has limited me after 2 weeks, and thought it was something worth sharing with the forum. I would not avoid a book that has a history of limiting people after a decent period of time. (books like 5dimes, and other great books do this and it's business as usual)

I have seen the "why books limit" article 100 times, I get all the reasons why books decide to do it. But this is different, and I think most players on this site understand this.

[Optional]

I think SBR would like to ask them about this for you and find out a bit more about their policies. Being a newly rated book.

Please do fill in the form.

[rangerz2478]

I think SBR would like to ask them about this for you and find out a bit more about their policies. Being a newly rated book.

Please do fill in the form.

To be completely honest Opti, I was not planning on filing a complaint on this one.

I did not think much could be done as I have never heard of a book changing their decision to limit someone after they did so. I simply wanted to alert others of my experience, as that is one of the greatest things I personally get out of this forum, hearing the experiences of others.

But if you guys want to look into them as a new book, then I think that would do a lot of good for the rest of the forum and I'd surely love to finally get an answer from them. As of now, they still have refused to confirm that any adjustments on limits have been made to my account until it is reviewed. I will write in, and can provide proof of the 0.1 btc wagers that have been rejected, if need be. Thank you.

[evo34]

I appreciate the info., but the fact that it's all live NHL betting is a critical fact not mentioned in the original post. For some random C-rated bitcoin book to be taking $2k on live NHL is much more unlikely (and more of a red flag) than the fact that they eventually cut you to something btw $0-$300. This is very different than winning a few full-game bets and seeing your limits slashed to nothing.

[rangerz2478]

I appreciate the info., but the fact that it's all live NHL betting is a critical fact not mentioned in the original post. For some random C-rated bitcoin book to be taking $2k on live NHL is much more unlikely (and more of a red flag) than the fact that they eventually cut you to something btw $0-$300. This is very different than winning a few full-game bets and seeing your limits slashed to nothing.

Why? It's not like I'm betting on some random low level league that no one ever heard of. Betting live NHL should be no different than betting live NFL.

[RonPaul2008]

I had a go at you first? I don't know how to even respond to that. I'll just focus on your 3 questions.

1.) I have not bet ANY steam, ANY bad lines. Every single bet I have placed has been on live NHL.

2.) The limits are NOT consistent so it's not that easy to figure out "what my damn limits are." (again, something I am astonished to hear from you) As I said before, I had 0.1 btc wagers rejected tonight. I have contacted them multiple times regarding the issue and have not gotten a single answer outside of "the manager will check it."

3.) You are telling me I (or you) should not warn people about a book that will limit you after weeks because you win? People have the right to choose to play where ever they want, but if I heard someone else post an experience like this with a book, I would NOT play there and would appreciate hearing that experience so I don't waste my time depositing into a book that will limit me within weeks if I win. I haven't bet anything resembling a bad line.

It is NOT standard procedure for any book to limit someone who wins within 2 weeks. I have been limited by 15+ books, I am not new to this. But it IS the first time a book has limited me after 2 weeks, and thought it was something worth sharing with the forum. I would not avoid a book that has a history of limiting people after a decent period of time. (books like 5dimes, and other great books do this and it's business as usual)

I have seen the "why books limit" article 100 times, I get all the reasons why books decide to do it. But this is different, and I think most players on this site understand this.

I was once booted from Las Palmas sportsbook after one day...they didn't even bother to limit me.

[rangerz2478]

UPDATE:

Had a 1 btc wager accepted on live nfl this morning after about a 30 second delay. (on my third attempt) Was only accepted because it was during a commercial because as one could imagine, this delay would make it impossible to wager during live play. Went on live chat and still have zero response to the account limitation issue, besides the same general "markets very in limits" nonsense. Having 0.1 btc wagers rejected is not within their limits when I was able to get 3 btc on the exact same market.

When the account was first created, they operated like any other sportsbook getting live wagers accepted and now it's like pulling teeth in hoping somehow goes through. It's clear as day they have put a severe restriction on the account and refuse to even comment on it. That is my biggest frustration with them. Limiting these days is standard procedure but if you are going to limit someone after TWO WEEKS, at least be honest about it and contact the player instead of ignoring their requests. Hopefully sbr can help.

[raiders72001]

UPDATE:

Had a 1 btc wager accepted on live nfl this morning after about a 30 second delay. (on my third attempt) Was only accepted because it was during a commercial because as one could imagine, this delay would make it impossible to wager during live play. Went on live chat and still have zero response to the account limitation issue, besides the same general "markets very in limits" nonsense. Having 0.1 btc wagers rejected is not within their limits when I was able to get 3 btc on the exact same market.

When the account was first created, they operated like any other sportsbook getting live wagers accepted and now it's like pulling teeth in hoping somehow goes through. It's clear as day they have put a severe restriction on the account and refuse to even comment on it. That is my biggest frustration with them. Limiting these days is standard procedure but if you are going to limit someone after TWO WEEKS, at least be honest about it and contact the player instead of ignoring their requests. Hopefully sbr can help.

What is the average lag time before a bet is confirmed/rejected? I haven't played there live yet.

[rangerz2478]

What is the average lag time before a bet is confirmed/rejected? I haven't played there live yet.

Normally I'd say it's about 7-10 seconds, so I am not sure if this morning was a site issue or another addition to the limitation of the account.

[raiders72001]

Normally I'd say it's about 7-10 seconds, so I am not sure if this morning was a site issue or another addition to the limitation of the account.

Thanks. I did hear about another 30 second delay. Not sure if he's in the same boat as you or it just occurs on occasion.

[dynamite140]

I had a go at you first? I don't know how to even respond to that. I'll just focus on your 3 questions.

1.) I have not bet ANY steam, ANY bad lines. Every single bet I have placed has been on live NHL.

2.) The limits are NOT consistent so it's not that easy to figure out "what my damn limits are." (again, something I am astonished to hear from you) As I said before, I had 0.1 btc wagers rejected tonight. I have contacted them multiple times regarding the issue and have not gotten a single answer outside of "the manager will check it."

3.) You are telling me I (or you) should not warn people about a book that will limit you after weeks because you win? People have the right to choose to play where ever they want, but if I heard someone else post an experience like this with a book, I would NOT play there and would appreciate hearing that experience so I don't waste my time depositing into a book that will limit me within weeks if I win. I haven't bet anything resembling a bad line.

It is NOT standard procedure for any book to limit someone who wins within 2 weeks. I have been limited by 15+ books, I am not new to this. But it IS the first time a book has limited me after 2 weeks, and thought it was something worth sharing with the forum. I would not avoid a book that has a history of limiting people after a decent period of time. (books like 5dimes, and other great books do this and it's business as usual)

I have seen the "why books limit" article 100 times, I get all the reasons why books decide to do it. But this is different, and I think most players on this site understand this.

Okay its time to call out the big know it all here who creates threads and complains all the time. Rangerz you are the most arrogant know it all on the forum. Yes you do know more than the average sbr user but thats all.



First off, you telling me you never gotten limited this quickly? If not, then obviously you haven't played at most books. Look at what you are betting on...first off its a bitcoin sportsbook. Also look at the market you are betting. You are not even betting NHL main game... you are betting nhl live betting. Do you think a bitcoin sportsbook should be taking 2k live wagers on nhl? Do you know many books there are that even take that kind of wagering?



If they limit you, move on. Did you even think you could bet 1-3btc on live betting forever on this bitcoin site? If so, you are delusional one here.

[dynamite140]

To be completely honest Opti, I was not planning on filing a complaint on this one.

I did not think much could be done as I have never heard of a book changing their decision to limit someone after they did so. I simply wanted to alert others of my experience, as that is one of the greatest things I personally get out of this forum, hearing the experiences of others.

But if you guys want to look into them as a new book, then I think that would do a lot of good for the rest of the forum and I'd surely love to finally get an answer from them. As of now, they still have refused to confirm that any adjustments on limits have been made to my account until it is reviewed. I will write in, and can provide proof of the 0.1 btc wagers that have been rejected, if need be. Thank you.

You're not filing a complaint here because you don't have a case. You would get laughed quickly on your complaint. The only result you would get is move on to another book.


To prevent yourself from embarrassing yourself, thats why you say you aren't filing a complaint. No one here would back you up. When you get limited, well you are limited. You have no complaint.

[rangerz2478]

You're not filing a complaint here because you don't have a case. You would get laughed quickly on your complaint. The only result you would get is move on to another book.


To prevent yourself from embarrassing yourself, thats why you say you aren't filing a complaint. No one here would back you up. When you get limited, well you are limited. You have no complaint.

I said very clearly I didn't INTEND to file a complaint because I know books don't reverse decisions when it comes to limiting. I wanted to warn people about this kind of book, is that a problem for you? Opti told me to file a complaint so I did. (read post 15)

Do you have a reading comprehension issue? Or do you just say things to knock people with no fundamental understanding of the facts?

[dynamite140]

Why? It's not like I'm betting on some random low level league that no one ever heard of. Betting live NHL should be no different than betting live NFL.

For someone who knows a lot, you seriously trying to make stuff like this up? Yes this isn't a random low level league. But you telling everyone here that live nhl is the same as live nfl betting? So you mean whatever limits a book takes on nfl live betting should apply to nhl live betting? If you say yes, then you are basically a liar as someone who knows more than the average sbr user like you would know the answer is no here.


If thats not what your statement means, then explain what exactly do you mean betting live nhl should be no different than live betting nfl?


Also if you weren't such an arrogant know it all, i actually tell you what books you could bet with nhl live for decent limits. But since you been nothing but an arrogant know it all and arrogant to mods, you going to have to figure things out on your own.

[rangerz2478]

For someone who knows a lot, you seriously trying to make stuff like this up? Yes this isn't a random low level league. But you telling everyone here that live nhl is the same as live nfl betting? So you mean whatever limits a book takes on nfl live betting should apply to nhl live betting? If you say yes, then you are basically a liar as someone who knows more than the average sbr user like you would know the answer is no here.


If thats not what your statement means, then explain what exactly do you mean betting live nhl should be no different than live betting nfl?


Also if you weren't such an arrogant know it all, i actually tell you what books you could bet with nhl live for decent limits. But since you been nothing but an arrogant know it all and arrogant to mods, you going to have to figure things out on your own.

The point was that live NHL is a major sports league. It is not betting on single A baseball, nor is it betting on live handball.

There are many books that take big limits on live NHL during intermissions (pinnacle being one of them) but not many that take decent limits throughout the entire game, especially within the last 5 minutes of a game. Keep your secrets to yourself.

Dude, you are the biggest hypocrite who has ever roamed this site. If I'm an arrogant know it all, then you must be a god damn dictator ruling with an iron fist because the level that you attack people at is about 100 times worse than anything I do.

[dynamite140]

You're not filing a complaint because you don't have a case. Also look at what you posted. This is the first time you been limited by a sportsbook so quickly within 2 weeks? That is not new to other people. Go ask a bunch of people here and ask them how many people have been limited that quickly. It sure is a lot higher than you expect it.


Also when you mention how they say markets very in limits nonsense.


You know exactly what this means and just trying to play stupid or make it a case against the sportsbook. Look at nfl limits and nhl limits. Are they even close to the same? Obviously not.

[rangerz2478]

You're not filing a complaint because you don't have a case. Also look at what you posted. This is the first time you been limited by a sportsbook so quickly within 2 weeks? That is not new to other people. Go ask a bunch of people here and ask them how many people have been limited that quickly. It sure is a lot higher than you expect it.


Also when you mention how they say markets very in limits nonsense.


You know exactly what this means and just trying to play stupid or make it a case against the sportsbook. Look at nfl limits and nhl limits. Are they even close to the same? Obviously not.

What part of Opti TELLING ME to file a complaint don't you understand? He said he WANTED me to file a complaint so that sbr can look into the site as a new sportsbook. He told me to do so, and I did it.

There is no situation of "having a case" it is simply sharing an experience with the forum so others can hear what this sportsbook does. All I wanted to do was warn others of what this book did to me after a very short time, but I guess that makes me an arrogant know it all.

[dynamite140]

The point was that live NHL is a major sports league. It is not betting on single A baseball, nor is it betting on live handball.

There are many books that take big limits on live NHL during intermissions (pinnacle being one of them) but not many that take decent limits throughout the entire game, especially within the last 5 minutes of a game. Keep your secrets to yourself.

Dude, you are the biggest hypocrite who has ever roamed this site. If I'm an arrogant know it all, then you must be a god damn dictator ruling with an iron fist because the level that you attack people at is about 100 times worse than anything I do.

NHL is a major sports league. Of course it isn't the same as single A baseball. That doesn't help your case. The thing is your statement basically means nhl live betting should have same limits as nfl live betting. True or false? If false, then your statement sounds exactly like what it is.


Pinnacle is one of them. But I obviously did not mean pinnacle as everyone knows pinnacle.


You complain more about sportsbooks than anyone here. Seriously you really think its not uncommon to get limited that quickly in a sportsbook? There are 2 major A books that limit you faster than the one you played on which is a bitcoin sportsbook. When you get limited, move on.

[dynamite140]

What part of Opti TELLING ME to file a complaint don't you understand? He said he WANTED me to file a complaint so that sbr can look into the site as a new sportsbook. He told me to do so, and I did it.

There is no situation of "having a case" it is simply sharing an experience with the forum so others can hear what this sportsbook does. All I wanted to do was warn others of what this book did to me after a very short time, but I guess that makes me an arrogant know it all.

Here's the issue. If people get limited by a sportsbook, are they upset? Yes of course. But what do they do. They move on. You think going to file a complaint to sbr and say... hey sportsbook A limited me. I want to find out why and file a complaint? Lets say you do. Then they say you are not the player type they want.


Thats it right? So even if you filed a complaint what answer are you looking for? No matter what you are still limited. Do you want them to tell you we don't want your action? Or is that still not good enough? The fact that this is your first time getting limited that quickly is just hilarious. Look at the poster above you. He mentioned he got his account limited faster than you.

[rangerz2478]

NHL is a major sports league. Of course it isn't the same as single A baseball. That doesn't help your case. The thing is your statement basically means nhl live betting should have same limits as nfl live betting. True or false? If false, then your statement sounds exactly like what it is.


Pinnacle is one of them. But I obviously did not mean pinnacle as everyone knows pinnacle.


You complain more about sportsbooks than anyone here. Seriously you really think its not uncommon to get limited that quickly in a sportsbook? There are 2 major A books that limit you faster than the one you played on which is a bitcoin sportsbook. When you get limited, move on.

I never once said the limits are or should be the same. I simply said that betting live NHL is not betting on some obscure markets that would get someone limited right away. I understand this concept may be a difficult one to grasp for you, so I apologize in advance for your confusion.

Yea you "obviously" didn't mean pinnacle. I'm sure you have a huge list of books that take decent NHL limits late in the game, and not just between periods. I'm sure these are all books that haven't limited me yet, and books that take decent limits without limiting right away. Again, I'm the know it all.

[dynamite140]

Rangerz, explain


1. Why? It's not like I'm betting on some random low level league that no one ever heard of. Betting live NHL should be no different than betting live NFL.


Explain this statement. Do you mean nhl live betting limits should be the same as nfl live betting limits? Or do you mean something else? Since this statement sounds exactly what it sounds like.




2. Also when you mention how they say markets very in limits nonsense.



You really don't know what this means?

[rangerz2478]

Here's the issue. If people get limited by a sportsbook, are they upset? Yes of course. But what do they do. They move on. You think going to file a complaint to sbr and say... hey sportsbook A limited me. I want to find out why and file a complaint? Lets say you do. Then they say you are not the player type they want.


Thats it right? So even if you filed a complaint what answer are you looking for? No matter what you are still limited. Do you want them to tell you we don't want your action? Or is that still not good enough? The fact that this is your first time getting limited that quickly is just hilarious. Look at the poster above you. He mentioned he got his account limited faster than you.

This is my last comment on the topic because I literally feel like I am on an episode of "are you smarter than a 5th grader?"

I did not and do not think filing a complaint will do a damn thing for me in this case. That was not the intent of starting this thread, and I never planned to file a complaint. I did so at the request of a mod. Period.

I understand this concept must be like solving a rubik's cube for you, and I wish you the best of luck trying to solve it.