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    rara51
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    ML 718 sportsbook

    guys , just curious if anyone uses this book and if so what are your thoughts on them (honest vs scammers ).... they always have these crazy cash promos that seem to good to be true ... lookn forward to all your replies...

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    I do not use bonuses (bitcoin only account) cause I want money in and out quickly. Just got 7050 the other day. Bitcoin withdrawals are instant. Look at Monthly Payout reports have a few people saying instant bitcoin payouts. Most props / options you will see and they have not touched limits. Cleaned house on debate between clinton / trump but got my ass kicked on VP debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by rara51 View Post
    guys , just curious if anyone uses this book and if so what are your thoughts on them (honest vs scammers ).... they always have these crazy cash promos that seem to good to be true ... lookn forward to all your replies...
    They appear to be related to other scam books and do not respond to SBR. Only posts on here about it appear to be from the same three posters whom I suspect are shills or just work there.

    AVOID

    would be my strong recommendation.

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    What other scam books are they associated with? And it sure seems like too big an operation to be scamming players on a constant basis

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    Quote Originally Posted by rara51 View Post
    What other scam books are they associated with? And it sure seems like too big an operation to be scamming players on a constant basis
    Really?

    You sound like you know more than most. How big is it and how do you know that?

    It appears to be a one or two man operation that is very likely going to be deposit only for most people silly enough to get sucked in.

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    Call me a shill, don't care. All i know is I've been paid every time I put in a request by the required time (all by BTC). Do i keep a large amount there? No, but that's just me being paranoid.

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    Scam book end of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    They appear to be related to other scam books and do not respond to SBR. Only posts on here about it appear to be from the same three posters whom I suspect are shills or just work there.

    AVOID

    would be my strong recommendation.
    Is that why they dont even have an SBR rating?
    Last edited by rara51; 10-09-16 at 06:27 AM.

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    I'm currently involved in a no-pay situation with this book. Wish I could say it was just a slow pay but the lies and excuses I've been told by my "account manager" have pushed it into no-pay/theft territory.

    Bill and the SBR crew are on the case and trying to help, but if optional is saying that they won't even respond to SBR then that's a very telling sign. I'll let SBR continue to follow up with ownership to see if they can get anywhere with them before posting all the details, but for now I would strongly caution anyone thinking of playing here to stay away.
    Last edited by TopNotch; 10-09-16 at 08:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopNotch View Post
    I'm currently involved in a no-pay situation with this book. Wish I could say it was just a slow pay but the lies and excuses I've been told by my "account manager" have pushed it into no-pay/theft territory.

    Bill and the SBR crew are on the case and trying to help, but if optional is saying that they won't even respond to SBR then that's a very telling sign. I'll let SBR continue to follow up with ownership to see if they can get anywhere with them before posting all the details, but for now I would strongly caution anyone thinking of playing here to stay away.
    It was only a matter of time before they went down the pan. Another person learning an extremely expensive lesson that especially in the offshore market, there is simply no need and no point whatsoever in risking your money with unknown and unproven bookmakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopNotch View Post
    I'm currently involved in a no-pay situation with this book. Wish I could say it was just a slow pay but the lies and excuses I've been told by my "account manager" have pushed it into no-pay/theft territory.

    Bill and the SBR crew are on the case and trying to help, but if optional is saying that they won't even respond to SBR then that's a very telling sign. I'll let SBR continue to follow up with ownership to see if they can get anywhere with them before posting all the details, but for now I would strongly caution anyone thinking of playing here to stay away.
    Did you get squared up with them?

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    did any of this get resolved? I feel like I am currently in the same position that TopNotch is!

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    do you have your money ? is anyone playing there ?

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    This entire group is a scam. THis is the same group that ran/stiffed people with 18th hole sportsbook(Bobbywaves used to shill for them back in the day).

    They will run this one as long as possible and as soon as the well dries here they will start up another one. They got some bullshit review site they run as well (cant remember exact site)

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    Quote Originally Posted by downsouth View Post
    This entire group is a scam. THis is the same group that ran/stiffed people with 18th hole sportsbook(Bobbywaves used to shill for them back in the day).
    They will run this one as long as possible and as soon as the well dries here they will start up another one. They got some bullshit review site they run as well (cant remember exact site)
    Yep, that's where I remember hearing about them too. That same shill site was promoting 18th hole as "A rated!!!1111", now ml718 is in the same spot instead.

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    Have a complaint on foot at the moment.

    Two friends who sit on the lounge watching games and betting on their own laptops live on ML718 have been told their balances will be confiscated or they must complete a 30x rollover.

    SBR asked ML718 if there was any evidence that these two players worked together to circumvent limits or share risk or bonuses.

    The owner replied that it was obviously just one person with two accounts as every time one account would bet he would log out of that before logging into the other account. He also claimed the accounts were being used to break the book betting limits.

    ML718 refused to supply details and said the SBR agent should go and log into the player accounts themself if they wanted any proof.

    Checking with the player he was able to provide multiple examples of bets being placed on both accounts at the same time and says there would be at least 25 times when he can recall them sitting beside each other betting the same game live.

    As far as breaking the limits, a quick check of the accounts show ML718 are just making things up about that as well. The complaining player usually bets in the $25 range and almost always under $100. He says his friend is exactly the same. Limit for the markets they play is normally $250.



    Technically these players have breached a standard rule about not sharing an IP.... but without any sign of malicious intent the book has no genuine right to confiscate their funds or impose 30x rollover. Just cash them out and boot them if they really dont want them.

    But that's not whats going on. Guy simply won a couple of grand and Robbie from there started making up things to avoid paying.

    I doubt he even has a problem paying. Just doesnt want to.


    I'd also be concerned that this is a sign they are about to turn full on rougue ala 18thholesportsbook and will soon stop paying everyone.
    Last edited by Optional; 12-12-16 at 07:38 PM.

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    Yeah with all the emails promoting absurd bonuses and telling members that they need to deposit 25k on Thanksgiving to keep their status alive and will have to also deposit on Thanksgiving to keep their Christmas bonus alive is a pretty telling sign that they are in 1 last ditch effort to get as much as they can now and bailing sometime shortly before the Super Bowl.

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    @BettorsAnom & Topnotch....did you guys see the X Mas Bonus offer that came out? Willing to 'give away' almost a quarter of a million dollars in free plays if you deposit $25,000....unreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayemaitch View Post
    @BettorsAnom & Topnotch....did you guys see the X Mas Bonus offer that came out? Willing to 'give away' almost a quarter of a million dollars in free plays if you deposit $25,000....unreal.
    That would be funny if it wasn't likely they will suck some people in.

    These guys must laugh themselves silly about how they can keep doing the same stuff without even bothering to really cover tracks from last time.

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    Yep, its literally the same recycled routine(first it was 18th hole, then it was snakeyes or something of the sort, now ML whatever). Next will be whatever and some sucker will always give it a shot.

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