[kin1949]

http://www.asa.org.uk/Complaints-and...ADJ_47988.aspx


Ad

A TV ad for Bet365 stated “Back any single winner at 4/1 or more on any race shown live on Channel 4 and we’ll give you a free bet to the same stake on the next live Channel 4 race. Your free bet also wins at odds of 4/1 or more, you qualify for a free bet on the next Channel 4 race. Keep backing those winners and we’ll keep giving you free bets!”
Issue

Three viewers challenged whether the ad was misleading, because after winning one free bet they were told they could no longer take part in the promotion.

BCAP TV Code

5.1.25.2.3
Response

Bet365 said they believed the three viewers had unusual betting patterns and were exploiting the free offer. They believed two viewers were using betting exchanges whereby they could offset the risk of a bet and gain a free bet without risking any of their own money. Bet365 contended that an examination of the customers accounts showed that they bet on races with the same odds and, because they did not bet on all races, said it appeared they were systematically selecting races that allowed them to exploit the free bet offer.
Bet365 stated that the third viewer also made selective bets and suspected they used a betting exchange. They believed the viewer backed horses each way, effectively giving them a bet on the horse both to win and lose, and they were unlikely to lose any money, which was "bad business". Bet365 said their terms and conditions made clear that promotional offers were only available for recreational players and explained they would only take the step of excluding a customer from the offer after a full investigation of their account and historic betting activity. Bet365 said only 2.5% of customers on their database were deemed to be non-recreational and were excluded from offers.
Clearcast said the ad was not directed toward professional gamblers and considered the specific issues raised by viewers about their accounts was a matter between them and the advertiser.

Assessment

Upheld
The ASA considered that the ad was likely to be interpreted as encouraging viewers to place successive bets on the condition that if they won they could place a further bet for free. We understood that Bet365 excluded a proportion of customers who they deemed to be non-recreational players; however, we considered that without defined criteria, it appeared that Bet365 had excluded customers from the offer when they were winning or were no longer profitable. We noted the ad did not state that customers who made each way bets, won frequently on similar bets, or used betting exchanges would be excluded from the offer. Although we understood that Bet365 believed the viewers were exploiting the offer, in the absence of qualification in the ad to make Bet365s limitations on the offer clear, we concluded the ad was likely to mislead.
The ad breached CAP (Broadcast) TV Code rules 5.1.2 and 5.2.3 (Misleading advertising.)

Action

The ad must not appear again in its current form. We told Bet365 to make the limitations of offers clear in future.

Adjudication of the ASA Council (Broadcast)

[Peep]

So it looks like they ruled in favor of the players? And the players got paid?

[Dunder]

So it looks like they ruled in favor of the players? And the players got paid?

They have no power to arbitrate in terms of a financial dispute (that would be a matter for IBAS). The ASA is the Advertising Standards Agency, all this ruling means is that the TV ad that was ran by Bet365 cannot be aired anymore.

[Chuck Sims]

Bet365 are crooks.

[UV82]

Bet365 are crooks.

that may be ... but they pay quickly

[Raven66]

Bet365 is crap, along with BWIN.

[UV82]

If you know how to handle them they can be very beneficial and they pay with 24-48 hrs

[Chuck Sims]

If you know how to handle them they can be very beneficial and they pay with 24-48 hrs

If you have a clue they cut your limits to nothing. If you are clueless, you might brag about a fast payout. Read the many different threads here about this dishonest book. Get clued in.

[UV82]

If you are clueless you would attempt the exact bets which will cut your limit to nothing, but if you have half a brain you would know how to avoid this kind of bets and keep your account alive for years AND get paid quickly.

[Art Vandeleigh]

If you are clueless you would attempt the exact bets which will cut your limit to nothing, but if you have half a brain you would know how to avoid this kind of bets and keep your account alive for years AND get paid quickly.

Interesting post, from what I've seen there UV82 you are spot on, this book can be extremely useful if you play properly, but "useful" does not mean get rich quick using one book. They simply put up too many lines and don't seem to be able to be on top of all of them all the time.

[pjesnik24]

If you are clueless you would attempt the exact bets which will cut your limit to nothing, but if you have half a brain you would know how to avoid this kind of bets and keep your account alive for years AND get paid quickly.

interesting... how did you know from beginning what bets to bet? or it was your 13th account?

[UV82]

interesting... how did you know from beginning what bets to bet? or it was your 13th account?

Experience

[pjesnik24]

Experience

exactly...