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    At the end of the day Heritage overall services is equivalent to rharpt of 5 dimes, just time for myself in particular to except the fact that online casinos are put in place for one simple reason. And inguess I can except that fact. Just wish I was able to except the fact that I do not have the self control to stay away. Maybe OPTIONAL can give me a few pointers??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Courtesywipe View Post
    At the end of the day Heritage overall services is equivalent to rharpt of 5 dimes, just time for myself in particular to except the fact that online casinos are put in place for one simple reason. And inguess I can except that fact. Just wish I was able to except the fact that I do not have the self control to stay away. Maybe OPTIONAL can give me a few pointers??
    I've gone to make a post a couple of times and changed my mind as did not want to sound condescending. Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but I probably can offer a suggestion.

    I'm about 50 now and had a gambling self control problem in my 20s. I totally understand how you can do this over and again and keep focusing on the casino not letting you win as being the problem. Those that just respond you are an idiot and why not just stop simply cannot get it. They can't understand the strange mindset that drags us back all the time.

    I know it can feel like you will never change and it might even feel like it isnt possible to change. But one thing I can promise you is that you actually can and it really isn't as tough as it might feel right now. If you have enough self discipline to go to a job every day, or go and play sport weekly, then you have enough to solve this problem. It's only people who can't even maintain that level of discipline who end up lifetime 'addicts'. Gambling isn't like alcohol, there is no real physical addiction at all. You really can choose to modify this behavior. Everyone can.

    The toughest part is REALLY deciding you want/have to change. For a lot of people this takes hitting a personal "rock bottom" that forces them into a dead serious mindset about it. For me, after maybe 7 years and losses in the 300-500k range, mostly in draw poker and pokie machines we hit a financial crisis here that saw interest rates skyrocket. Where as I had plenty of disposable income to juggle to hide a lot of the effects of losing every week now all my income was needed to service mortgages. Anyway with money tight things got so bad that it came down to stopping or losing my family.

    At first I tried the traditional route of going to a GA meeting and asking my doctor for medication... but that was wrong. That was just a cop out and a continuation of convincing myself this really was a physical addiction and my broken brain would not let me ever stop and treat betting like a 'normal person'. Same as asking a book to lock a casino if you actually want to stop. Bad idea. It feeds the mindset that anyone but you is responsible or can help in changing this habit.

    A GA meeting is a very very good idea but definitely not to undertake the course. Go along and see what sort of people are there and ask yourself if you really do fit in to this group. If you have never stolen to support your gambling then it's pretty certain you won't feel like you do. It helped me seeing how bad it could be and cemented my resolve that I was going to stop and that I actually COULD do it. As I wasn't like these people. I wasn't one of them. Whatever happens don't get sucked into their way of thinking though. They will tell you you don't have control and will never be able to gamble again without risking a re-lapse and you will need to pray for help and strength to beat this for the rest of your days.

    I had 7 people I used to gamble with all the time who were all 'addicted' and ruining their lives with it. All but one managed to get over it totally and can choose to gamble or not as they please today.

    And all of us had the same experience. It only took a matter of weeks before the urges had 90% subsided and within a matter of months we started wondering whatever it was that felt so enticing about doing it all. There is no addiction, just a bad habit. And habits are pretty easy to break in comparison.

    As trite as it might sound, all it takes is to decide today is the day you are going to change the problem and that I will not gamble on casino machines for the rest of TODAY. Rinse and repeat tomorrow.

    It actually takes no more self control/discipline than it does to go to church regularly or get out of bed and go to work on days when you don't feel like it. If you can do that you do this. And it will take a surprisingly short amount of time for you to start feeling it is working if you have REALLY made the decision.

    No one but you knows what will be enough to bring you to that point of making the decision. Hopefully throwing away that 10,000 might be. Although if you lost the entire 15,000 it probably would have helped more with doing it today. You don't have to be a hopeless homeless destitute to call it rock bottom. You just have to decide this is the point you are going no lower than.

    Personally if I was you I might tell myself the only thing I can bet on between now and the end of March is March madness and I wont withdraw before then either. Get used to placing bets without thinking about the casino at all, or any other betting options. Or pick whatever sport you like best and set a strict restriction in your mind that that is the only type of gambling you will do for March. And don't withdraw so you have no excuse to think about rounding anything up or down in the mean time. (Just forget that goddamn concept whatever you decide to do otherwise please!!)

    I guess that's a lot of words to simply be saying you have to choose to change yourself. But I hope it does help in some way. If not today then someday in the future.

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    Optional you hit it ride on ,good work brother well said 100 percent accurate

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    I find it funny how they have this new feature for 72 hours ? So that means you can access your casino account for 72 hours in a row and go on huge tilt without even putting a stop on. Than when 72 hours is up you can block for 72 hours ! (might have been better the old way for addicts) :} They will have addicts counting down the minutes just to get back on. This helps their casino business and does not hurt it. There needs to be a permanent solution to block this casino. Something doesn't seem right here.

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    The casinos are rigged this is a known fact and there is no amount of whining, hand wringing or posting that will change it because you suckers keep playing the crooked game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTrumpCard View Post
    The casinos are rigged this is a known fact and there is no amount of whining, hand wringing or posting that will change it because you suckers keep playing the crooked game.
    A known fact. Really? How can you prove it? I do just fine on the casinos. I actually hope they are rigged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I've gone to make a post a couple of times and changed my mind as did not want to sound condescending. Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but I probably can offer a suggestion.

    I'm about 50 now and had a gambling self control problem in my 20s. I totally understand how you can do this over and again and keep focusing on the casino not letting you win as being the problem. Those that just respond you are an idiot and why not just stop simply cannot get it. They can't understand the strange mindset that drags us back all the time.

    I know it can feel like you will never change and it might even feel like it isnt possible to change. But one thing I can promise you is that you actually can and it really isn't as tough as it might feel right now. If you have enough self discipline to go to a job every day, or go and play sport weekly, then you have enough to solve this problem. It's only people who can't even maintain that level of discipline who end up lifetime 'addicts'. Gambling isn't like alcohol, there is no real physical addiction at all. You really can choose to modify this behavior. Everyone can.

    The toughest part is REALLY deciding you want/have to change. For a lot of people this takes hitting a personal "rock bottom" that forces them into a dead serious mindset about it. For me, after maybe 7 years and losses in the 300-500k range, mostly in draw poker and pokie machines we hit a financial crisis here that saw interest rates skyrocket. Where as I had plenty of disposable income to juggle to hide a lot of the effects of losing every week now all my income was needed to service mortgages. Anyway with money tight things got so bad that it came down to stopping or losing my family.

    At first I tried the traditional route of going to a GA meeting and asking my doctor for medication... but that was wrong. That was just a cop out and a continuation of convincing myself this really was a physical addiction and my broken brain would not let me ever stop and treat betting like a 'normal person'. Same as asking a book to lock a casino if you actually want to stop. Bad idea. It feeds the mindset that anyone but you is responsible or can help in changing this habit.

    A GA meeting is a very very good idea but definitely not to undertake the course. Go along and see what sort of people are there and ask yourself if you really do fit in to this group. If you have never stolen to support your gambling then it's pretty certain you won't feel like you do. It helped me seeing how bad it could be and cemented my resolve that I was going to stop and that I actually COULD do it. As I wasn't like these people. I wasn't one of them. Whatever happens don't get sucked into their way of thinking though. They will tell you you don't have control and will never be able to gamble again without risking a re-lapse and you will need to pray for help and strength to beat this for the rest of your days.

    I had 7 people I used to gamble with all the time who were all 'addicted' and ruining their lives with it. All but one managed to get over it totally and can choose to gamble or not as they please today.

    And all of us had the same experience. It only took a matter of weeks before the urges had 90% subsided and within a matter of months we started wondering whatever it was that felt so enticing about doing it all. There is no addiction, just a bad habit. And habits are pretty easy to break in comparison.

    As trite as it might sound, all it takes is to decide today is the day you are going to change the problem and that I will not gamble on casino machines for the rest of TODAY. Rinse and repeat tomorrow.

    It actually takes no more self control/discipline than it does to go to church regularly or get out of bed and go to work on days when you don't feel like it. If you can do that you do this. And it will take a surprisingly short amount of time for you to start feeling it is working if you have REALLY made the decision.

    No one but you knows what will be enough to bring you to that point of making the decision. Hopefully throwing away that 10,000 might be. Although if you lost the entire 15,000 it probably would have helped more with doing it today. You don't have to be a hopeless homeless destitute to call it rock bottom. You just have to decide this is the point you are going no lower than.

    Personally if I was you I might tell myself the only thing I can bet on between now and the end of March is March madness and I wont withdraw before then either. Get used to placing bets without thinking about the casino at all, or any other betting options. Or pick whatever sport you like best and set a strict restriction in your mind that that is the only type of gambling you will do for March. And don't withdraw so you have no excuse to think about rounding anything up or down in the mean time. (Just forget that goddamn concept whatever you decide to do otherwise please!!)

    I guess that's a lot of words to simply be saying you have to choose to change yourself. But I hope it does help in some way. If not today then someday in the future.
    Opti. Thank you for taking honest time to post your thoughts. I do appreciate it. My issue is not with lack of of control of wagering on sports. My biggest issue was with Heritage allowing a player to suspend their casino action and then 10 minutes later turn the casino back on. Sites like youwager and betpop allow you to suspend the casino service for good. That's all I was asking. It seems as if SBR has addressed this and may play a role at Heritage moving forward.

    And to to respond to your earlier comment Opti.....I was not being condescending but simply looking for your input as it normally has substance behind it.

    Good of day all. Hope I didn't offend anyone. I may be wagering loser but not a dick by any means.

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    I'm a realist, yet sometimes venture into their casino. It is nice that in their rules they say I should expect a lose.

    I think it is half ass that I know if I'm going to win or lose a hand of blackjack prior to all the dealers cards flipping over. I'm not sure if anyone else notices, but the dealer ALWAYS wins when the cards are flipped/hit at the faster rate.

    Basically I can tell if I'll win or lose a hand even before the hole card is completely visible.

    The speed of how the dealers hole card and hits vary depending on if you are going to win or lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTrumpCard View Post
    The casinos are rigged this is a known fact and there is no amount of whining, hand wringing or posting that will change it because you suckers keep playing the crooked game.
    That's true. The guy on this thread that won $17k but lost $12k, when he said he won $17k we all know it was gonna end badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordVodka View Post
    That's true. The guy on this thread that won $17k but lost $12k, when he said he won $17k we all know it was gonna end badly.
    I at least got $5000 and i would not have got that if they had not already taken it out . So yes it ended badly but at least i got something out of it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Forum View Post
    We followed up with management to share the original poster's feedback. There will be a software feature added in the coming future to freeze casino access for a predetermined length of time, this had already been in the works.

    SBR Forum,

    thanksmfor taking the time to address my real concern at hand. The issue of self exclusion of casino only to reactivate the same casino at my leisure. To me this is not self-exclusion. Sounds like SBR and Heritage has taken this matter seriously and I commend them for this.

    I appreciate you both looking out for the players.manother reason Heritage is slowly passing 5dimes in many areas. Although I still do have a "hard-on" for 5dimes.

    CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by captrobey View Post
    I at least got $5000 and i would not have got that if they had not already taken it out . So yes it ended badly but at least i got something out of it .
    I know. I didn't mean it in a bad way. Just that casinos will make people act irrationally. We all know there's no way of winning in the long run but we fall for it every time.

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    Also sorry for the many typos as of late. I recently switched from Android to Iphone and its honestly like learning a new language. Although I think I am a phantom of the Apple product so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordVodka View Post
    I know. I didn't mean it in a bad way. Just that casinos will make people act irrationally. We all know there's no way of winning in the long run but we fall for it every time.
    I know and you are right it does make you act irrationally. I get so mad when the dealer starts getting the insane hands and i at times lose control. It is frustrating because this has happened several times with large amounts after winning sport bets. Even when i do win it is not from getting great hands it is just getting lucky at the right time . If i got the hands the dealer does over and over i would be a millionaire.

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