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    Flutterclub.com review

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    I was in the market for a 'live in play cashout' (soccer market) bitcoin book. I didnt know one existed. I found this site after searching online and signed up. They have btc both in and out. And best of all allow US players. So finally I have access to a UK style book. These are my experiences after a week of activity.


    A week ago I ask for a no deposit freebet to try out the site. The live chat was quick and very responsive I noticed . They granted a free 20mbtc with 30x roll. I lost it ofcourse but while betting found out alot.. They offer esports and grade within 2 mins after a map. Some books take up to 24hrs (nitrogen). Also live links for tons of matches all sports included.
    So I make 2 deposits lose 1 and won some off the last depo. Today I ask for withdrawal and it gets to me within 5 mins of asking online via mobile site. If you have any questions about limits and how much they will let you win you can ask on chat. They will answer all questions and raise limits if you need. As of now i havent tested how long they will let you play if you keep beating them, but they claim they take on winners.

    Pros

    They pay quick
    Great platform
    Tons of markets
    Top notch customer service
    Bitcoin US friendly

    Cons

    While betting live in play it may be hard to get in a wager depending on whats happening on the field. This can be solved easy if they add an option to place bet at a better/worse odds no matter what happens. Instead you wait 10 seconds at times and refresh to see if it was accepted or not. I dont find this to be too big of a problem and it has worked in my favor while betting (bet o/u live market bet canceled cause price goes up) .


    Give them a go you might enjoy.

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    Thanks for the info. I just signed up and they gave me a 25 mbtc no deposit bonus. Hopefully I can complete the rollover and see if they actually payout.

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    Looks like the website has been around for about 4 years in one form or another. Was originally a free betting setup with prizes paid out of ad funds, then looks like it turned into a frontend for a bitcoin casino/book focusing on asia and looks like it has recently relaunched in this form.

    Looks ok for a try out.

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    i will never understand the interest in 'new books'. long time experienced sportbooks that have a proven track record is the only place to deposit. gambling on games I get. gambling on the sportsbook i just don't get at all. i understand the possible many reasons, they are all not good enough to try out a sportsbook. try out. that's nuts. the 1st thing you have to get right is where you deposit. so called great books with great reviews for a year or two have come and gone with many gamblers monies. the only proof is longevity without that nothing else matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by relaaxx View Post
    i will never understand the interest in 'new books'. long time experienced sportbooks that have a proven track record is the only place to deposit. gambling on games I get. gambling on the sportsbook i just don't get at all. i understand the possible many reasons, they are all not good enough to try out a sportsbook. try out. that's nuts. the 1st thing you have to get right is where you deposit. so called great books with great reviews for a year or two have come and gone with many gamblers monies. the only proof is longevity without that nothing else matters.
    Site has been operated by the same company using the same posted physical address for 4 years. Looks more like an evolution than a new site.

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    Ive done enough research on fc that I feel safe depositing. Theres a big thread in the bitcoin forum regarding fc and all good news. It also offers a trillion different betting opportunities that other books cant provide.. especially if you are US based... live in play cashout and many live markets.. I think the odds may be a few cents off live in play but still tons of value betting into them considering fc book does live in play really well.....

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    I understand the point of view about depositing at new books but they offered me a free $10 no deposit in my account. If I win and they do not pay it is no big deal. They seem legit so far. If I do complete the rollover I will report if they pay or not.

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    last 3 posts all have valid points and good enough reasons to try out a different site that is not exactly new. 4 years is pretty good. good luck to all. i will stick with the sites that have been around since i've been gambling online. just my preference.

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    I can say I am already disappointed with this place. I have a winning wager that has not been graded and it has been over a half hour. That is not acceptable with any place.

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    Over an hour now and still no graded wagers. What does this place do wait a week to grade. Not impressed at all.

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    I do find it hard to believe that they pay quick if they can't even grade wagers within 2 hours. I am still waiting for games to be graded. This is pathetic.

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    i feel your irritation.

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    About 3 hours to grade games, so far not so good. Oh well I should stop complaining at least I didn't deposit nothing with them. I do plan on running this free money up though. I just hope they pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by relaaxx View Post
    i will never understand the interest in 'new books'. long time experienced sportbooks that have a proven track record is the only place to deposit. gambling on games I get. gambling on the sportsbook i just don't get at all. i understand the possible many reasons, they are all not good enough to try out a sportsbook. try out. that's nuts. the 1st thing you have to get right is where you deposit. so called great books with great reviews for a year or two have come and gone with many gamblers monies. the only proof is longevity without that nothing else matters.
    1000 yes. I need book establish at least a decade before I put money in it. I just sign up Befsafe since they establish in 2006 but still I wouldn't have over 2g on it. Each year smooth sailing with betsafe, I will increase my balance $500 more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themike78 View Post
    About 3 hours to grade games, so far not so good. Oh well I should stop complaining at least I didn't deposit nothing with them. I do plan on running this free money up though. I just hope they pay.
    This book is located in Ireland so your bets may not be graded untill they open up shop the next day. Also depends on the market you bet. An obscure market may take longer to verify score... however if you bet during the books hours of operations then grading usually takes about 5 mins no matter the sport. Get on chat and tell them your concerns if you have any...

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    futbolmundial are you a shill for this bookie
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    Believe whatever you want... but for me this site has been nothing but a positive experience thus far. They just became my goto book especially since no other US bookie does live in play cashout. Theres alot of value to be had here depending on the market you are looking for... if you are betting US sports then maybe you should play at nitrogen or fiat books. Buy if you're looking for a UK style book look no further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themike78 View Post
    About 3 hours to grade games, so far not so good. Oh well I should stop complaining at least I didn't deposit nothing with them. I do plan on running this free money up though. I just hope they pay.
    A fellow named John from Flutterclub has contacted me with a copy of an email he sent to you about this post.

    He says they can take a while to approve gradings for late night GMT games but doesn't think any of yours took three hours.

    He asked if it was possible for his email explanation to be posted.

    Are you happy to do that? Or mind if I do?







    @John from Flutterclub. The PM system wont allow me to reply to you and thanks for asking. But no, book reps are not allowed to post on the forum.

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    Thats fine if you want to post it. Wow they must be reading this forum. I might have exaggerated a little but it did take about 2 hours to grade. I guess it makes sense now that I think of it. I did not realize they were in Ireland. I guess they are like 12 hours ahead of eastern u.s time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themike78 View Post
    Thats fine if you want to post it. Wow they must be reading this forum. I might have exaggerated a little but it did take about 2 hours to grade. I guess it makes sense now that I think of it. I did not realize they were in Ireland. I guess they are like 12 hours ahead of eastern u.s time.
    I don't care. Don't want to embarrass you, if it would at all. You post it if you want. Don't if you don't want to.

    What did you think? Guy sounds pretty genuine about caring I thought.

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    They do have excellent customer service. I couldn't believe they would send me an email like that because of my comments here. I actually like the fact that they respond so quick and do seem to care. I will make a deposit with them I think. They seem legit.

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    Yeah man glad you like them. Ill be depositing today aswell. I have proof of deposit and withdrawal in case anybody doubts the review I gave. This book suits me perfectly. I bet live in play soccer markets and this book does live in play better than any US based book. This site reminds me of Bet365, they offer almost everything (soccer) .

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    Have a little more info for you.

    Flutterclub is licensed by the Irish Revenue office to operate remote gambling for Irish citizens. This does not offer any sort of regulatory protection for players outside Ireland but does show they are a legitimate company and probably not run by known criminals, at the very least.

    They assured me that the Live Betting Cashout feature does not charge any premium over the current odds. (ie: If you were able to do it fast enough, and manually bet the other side/s to close your bet the resulting profit would be the same)

    I haven't run across an Ireland based company trying to service the offshore market before so I am interested to see what happens here but would also tread warily building up any sort of big balance until we see this mob really can do it smoothly.

    If they offered NASCAR betting I'd probably give it a try with a small deposit myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by futbolmundial View Post
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    I was in the market for a 'live in play cashout' (soccer market) bitcoin book. I didnt know one existed. I found this site after searching online and signed up. They have btc both in and out. And best of all allow US players. So finally I have access to a UK style book. These are my experiences after a week of activity.


    A week ago I ask for a no deposit freebet to try out the site. The live chat was quick and very responsive I noticed . They granted a free 20mbtc with 30x roll. I lost it ofcourse but while betting found out alot.. They offer esports and grade within 2 mins after a map. Some books take up to 24hrs (nitrogen). Also live links for tons of matches all sports included.
    So I make 2 deposits lose 1 and won some off the last depo. Today I ask for withdrawal and it gets to me within 5 mins of asking online via mobile site. If you have any questions about limits and how much they will let you win you can ask on chat. They will answer all questions and raise limits if you need. As of now i havent tested how long they will let you play if you keep beating them, but they claim they take on winners.

    Pros

    They pay quick
    Great platform
    Tons of markets
    Top notch customer service
    Bitcoin US friendly

    Cons

    While betting live in play it may be hard to get in a wager depending on whats happening on the field. This can be solved easy if they add an option to place bet at a better/worse odds no matter what happens. Instead you wait 10 seconds at times and refresh to see if it was accepted or not. I dont find this to be too big of a problem and it has worked in my favor while betting (bet o/u live market bet canceled cause price goes up) .


    Give them a go you might enjoy.
    Good review but one comment on Nitrogen. On the Nitrogen site, it's stated that it may take 24 hours to grade esports, but they are normally graded in 2-3 hours. For some of the large Dota matches, they grade a couple of minutes after the final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    Good review but one comment on Nitrogen. On the Nitrogen site, it's stated that it may take 24 hours to grade esports, but they are normally graded in 2-3 hours. For some of the large Dota matches, they grade a couple of minutes after the final.
    If you bet esports then I would bet on flutterclub.com before nitrogen. As I mentioned it may take up to 24 hours to grade on nitro. Also on fc you can watch the esports match live in play where as on nitro all you can do is bet pregame and live inplay. On fc you have much more options esports wise .. pregame/live inplay and other markets (first blood,maps)

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    I will love this cash out feature for tennis if it works. I'm going to give them a try.

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    How extensive are the options for live in-game betting for soccer? Ever since I joined the bitcoin phenomena, the only thing I missed about leaving Bovada was how good their live betting platform was. If this is comparable then I'll give it a whirl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCarts View Post
    How extensive are the options for live in-game betting for soccer? Ever since I joined the bitcoin phenomena, the only thing I missed about leaving Bovada was how good their live betting platform was. If this is comparable then I'll give it a whirl.
    I would compare flutterclub's live in game options to bet365. The only thing that fc doesn't have are correct score and goalscorer markets. But besides that they offer all. Go on the site and the first thing you will see are the live in play markets.

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    betcoin.ag/flutteclub/vitalbet same odds (pinnacle clones with worse margin)

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    I went on fc.com and became aware of the site being down. I then received an email from betballer.com aka flutterclub.com stating that the site has been rebranded. I then emailed 'Jon' from fc.com who has been more than helpful regarding all matters I've had with them and he replied to my email as follows.........

    "Hi there,

    We actually have new backers whom we have been trying to secure for around six months. One of their criteria was rebranding and using a name more suited to our actual offering which is mostly ball sports.

    It is very exciting stuff and we will shortly be adding a VIP Service to our offering so will be looking for big guns to get involved....high limits, online platform and betting over phone and Skype.

    The same team is running the show and the Betballer platform is identical to what flutterclub was (although we recently also added 35 slot games)

    Looking forward to seeing you back in action.

    Best Regards,

    John


    John Flynn
    Phone: +353 (0)85 8586470
    Email: john@betballer.com
    Web: http://betballer.com/ "

    I have an extensive email chain with 'Jon' and he has answered every concern I've had regarding his site. Since the rebranding , i havent deposited or tried out betballer.com . Its nice to see that the same team are running the book and maybe the new backers will allow bb.com to take in bigger wagers. I haven't had an issue regarding limits as they raise them if you ask via chat but them focusing on the bigger bettor is a good sign that they can service both big and smaller deposits. If you haven't tried them out give them a go but before you do I would recommend sending 'Jon' an email regarding your concerns or questions . This bookmakers has great customer service both email and live chat so getting your questions answered shouldnt be an issue. I look forward to sending in a deposit once the football league 'england' begins this season as for now I wait to continue hearing good things from betballer.com

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    Looks like another Costa Rican bookie in trouble

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    Quote Originally Posted by slayer14 View Post
    Looks like another Costa Rican bookie in trouble
    You should read the thread before posting.... this bookmaker is NOT based in CR

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    Quote Originally Posted by futbolmundial View Post
    I went on fc.com and became aware of the site being down. I then received an email from betballer.com aka flutterclub.com stating that the site has been rebranded. I then emailed 'Jon' from fc.com who has been more than helpful regarding all matters I've had with them and he replied to my email as follows.........

    "Hi there,

    We actually have new backers whom we have been trying to secure for around six months. One of their criteria was rebranding and using a name more suited to our actual offering which is mostly ball sports.

    It is very exciting stuff and we will shortly be adding a VIP Service to our offering so will be looking for big guns to get involved....high limits, online platform and betting over phone and Skype.

    The same team is running the show and the Betballer platform is identical to what flutterclub was (although we recently also added 35 slot games)

    Looking forward to seeing you back in action.

    Best Regards,

    John


    John Flynn
    Phone: +353 (0)85 8586470
    Email: john@betballer.com
    Web: http://betballer.com/ "

    I have an extensive email chain with 'Jon' and he has answered every concern I've had regarding his site. Since the rebranding , i havent deposited or tried out betballer.com . Its nice to see that the same team are running the book and maybe the new backers will allow bb.com to take in bigger wagers. I haven't had an issue regarding limits as they raise them if you ask via chat but them focusing on the bigger bettor is a good sign that they can service both big and smaller deposits. If you haven't tried them out give them a go but before you do I would recommend sending 'Jon' an email regarding your concerns or questions . This bookmakers has great customer service both email and live chat so getting your questions answered shouldnt be an issue. I look forward to sending in a deposit once the football league 'england' begins this season as for now I wait to continue hearing good things from betballer.com

    Thanks for the update futbolmundial

    Agree John seems like a good guy and hope they can do well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by relaaxx View Post
    i will never understand the interest in 'new books'. long time experienced sportbooks that have a proven track record is the only place to deposit. gambling on games I get. gambling on the sportsbook i just don't get at all. i understand the possible many reasons, they are all not good enough to try out a sportsbook. try out. that's nuts. the 1st thing you have to get right is where you deposit. so called great books with great reviews for a year or two have come and gone with many gamblers monies. the only proof is longevity without that nothing else matters.
    He was looking for a new book that offers something the established USA-facing books do not offer and he found it. There is nothing wrong with that provided you don't overexpose yourself at the new book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by relaaxx View Post
    the only proof is longevity without that nothing else matters.
    Also, in the modern era, having Bitcoin available is essential. Granted, most of the established books have made btc usage easy, but if you are at one that does not, that is a great reason to find new book.

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