1. #71
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    Optional, have you tried communicating via "chat" on the wbesite?

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    Live chat just said Robbie was out on a family emergency and the Reps have been reassigned internally as 90% of the questions are being answered by live chat and customer service now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayemaitch View Post
    Optional, have you tried communicating via "chat" on the wbesite?
    No

    Quote Originally Posted by 72nova View Post
    Live chat just said Robbie was out on a family emergency and the Reps have been reassigned internally as 90% of the questions are being answered by live chat and customer service now.
    "Reps have been re-assigned" probably equals most staff are now gone and this is an explanation to give people.




    Whatever is happening in there, don't let your guard down and get convinced into depositing no matter how good the offer seems.

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    My exact thoughts Optional. In the unlikely hood that its more than a 4 person operation, there is no need for any sort of staff at this point of the season. This is why they were pushing Thanksgiving and X Mas deposits hard. $25k deposits got you $250,000 in Free Plays. They knew they would never have to process a payout again as they were closing shop after the football season and nobody would be able to hit their absurd rollover requirements.

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    If they close after SB, lets stay on top of them when they open the new website.

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    This was posted at oolorines website the other day...

    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=640736.0

    Notice the number and location for both registrations. Also in the above above "Regards," is the same signature that ML718 uses.

    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=636638.0;wap

    http://whois.domaintools.com/ml718.com

    Interesting to say the least. A guy on there mentioned that they are still using the Robbie is out of town gimmick to not pay. If Robbie is out of town does he not have a phone to check on an account to approve it?

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    "Admin Country: AU
    Admin Phone: +45.36946676"

    Except .... +45 is Denmark, not Australia.

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    Sent my complaint in

    I placed my complaint thru SBR today, lets see how it goes.

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    For whoever was asking how my situation ended with them. "Robbie" got mad that I was still rightfully thinking my account should still remain open so instead of 30x he just closed the account. I can't even loggin any more, it just tells me to contact customer service every time. No matter who you talk to, after they "transfer" you (aka they just pass the laptop around) they all sound exactly the same. They use rude language, tell you to kick rocks, etc… I would say the couple people who are running this site are in high school…but I will give them benefit of the doubt and say that they are college guys (even though they act much younger.) Would not be surprised if they were working out of a dorm room honestly. This website is such a joke, just glad that I withdrew more then I deposited, even with the funds that I never received counting as a loss. ML718 is a complete joke of a site. Their website design is hilarious. Pretty sure they just used WordPress.

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    They claim that they pay every single person who doesn't abuse their rules but they have a people over at ml718.org who are complaining that they aren't even able to contact customer service. I have their banking info, what should I do with it? Im positive they have somebody in the states that handles deposits into their bank accounts. Gian (a guy at other forums seems to be a shill for them), if you see him post about it, its always positive about ml718.

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    Not sure of others, but I played 100% within the rules and cant even get my withdrawal request responded to

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    I got a good place for you. Weekly payouts. Flexible methods. No deposit and more...

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    i have no idea why people deposit their money willy nilly on these random books with no history

    god dam so much desperation

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    Are my guys the only ones that operate with no deposit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davisca86 View Post
    Are my guys the only ones that operate with no deposit?
    I think you should stop advertising a "private" book that deals with Paypall only. Recipe for disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfa1234 View Post
    I think you should stop advertising a "private" book that deals with Paypall only. Recipe for disaster.
    How so alpha? Kindly share your view with me either public or pm. Thanks

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    Yeah, depositing there was definitely a mistake. It seems their bestpph.website is just a front to make it seem like ml718 is legitimately getting lines from a reputable company. The same verbage is used by both customer service reps at both places and their chats are always available at both places, never open at one place and closed at the other, same person is working both chats.

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    Now they've created The Real SBR....

    TherealSBR.Com

    They list snakeeyes11.net as an A book and 18thholesportsbook as a B book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davisca86 View Post
    How so alpha? Kindly share your view with me either public or pm. Thanks
    Because it's private, no way of knowing the owners, no accountability...increased chance of them running away with clients money if clients go on a winning streak and because Paypal payments can be reversed for a long time after they were made, merchant payment or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayemaitch View Post
    Now they've created The Real SBR....

    TherealSBR.Com

    They list snakeeyes11.net as an A book and 18thholesportsbook as a B book.
    They are just having a laugh at their victims and SBR.

    I will make sure admin knows about it if they dont already but I'd just ignore it and not help advertise the joke for them personally.

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    Has anybody gotten any news lately from this book?

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    They are not communicating with SBR or myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    They are just having a laugh at their victims and SBR.

    I will make sure admin knows about it if they dont already but I'd just ignore it and not help advertise the joke for them personally.
    Sucks he has not gotten paid yet hope he does. BTW you seemed to be gone awhile OP welcome back. In honor of you being back the next Thursday i crossdress and go from Rob to Roberta i will dedicate that entire day to your return. I will be mostly that day at the Frozen food section at Acme screaming your name by the Gordon fish sticks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayemaitch View Post
    Now they've created The Real SBR....

    TherealSBR.Com

    They list snakeeyes11.net as an A book and 18thholesportsbook as a B book.
    LOL

    This site gives us a good list of books to definitely avoid. Anything they added that is not rated as well, or at all, on the real SBR list

    BetTGS.com
    JTbet.com
    ml718.com
    snakeeyes11.net
    18thHoleSportsbook.net
    betgrande.com
    betcruise.com

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    We had hoped that ML718 would address user cases with us after initially communicating with us on the OP's issue, so we had delayed adding them to our blacklist. We know that some players have reported payment in the past but also that users have balances upward of $35,000 that are being asked to turnover their funds numerous times as penalty for betting allegedly bad lines. Another player recently reported being owed a bitcoin withdrawal for over a month. Hopefully ML718 will turn it around and honor players funds.

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    Haha WTF dude?

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    I went on live chat they said I have to speak to Robbie they can't do anything I have to wait for him to come back

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    Of course. He's been 'gone' for a month. When I asked them recently if they did same day payouts, they assured me they always do same day. When I asked 'even if your owner is out of town?', I immediately got 'transfered' to Andrew who acted like he was 11 years old. When they thought I was a potential new customer they acted like they're an incredibly respected book, when they realized I've been reading SBR, they acted like a stiffbook.

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    I have a balance with Ml718 now. Not huge, but I have had no problems with them so far....but I have not had to withdraw. Their rollover requirements are crazy at best, but I asked to see the rules in advnace. I have a 15x rollover, but only major sports count and only plays OVER $100 (ie $101) count towards rollover. I have met 90% of my roll to date, and will hit it by this weekend. Monday I will put in for a payout request and let you know how it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squarenfl View Post
    ML718.com? damn guys where do you even find such websites???
    Haha I thought the same.


    Sounds like a gun model.

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    I see they finally made the SBR Blacklist

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    As promised, I have now met my rollover (in fact I exceeded it by 40%). I followed all rules, have not bet any bad lines or anything like that. I have emailed them asking for a withdrawl via bitcoin of 1/2 my account. I will update once I hear more info.

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    Not looking good. Emailed their customer service 3x with no response so far. Normally they respond in a matter of minutes. Unlike others, there is nothing they can say about me that I did wrong because I carefully read all rules ahead of time. Kind of sad that they have to do something like this. Is it really worth all the bad publicity instead of paying the few and far between that win? Keeping players happy ensures people continue to deposit and eventually will lose everything unless you are one of the 2% that can hit 53% or higher consistantly. I will continue to upate

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    UPDATE: Tried reaching out to them thru live chat. Rep responded to me "we do not have access to your emails we are in Phillipines they are in Costa Rica"

    I then replied, well last week when I contacted live chat asking about the negative info I read on SBR, the rep replied "I see you have sent an email on this matter too. I will clear the Que of your matter. If you followed the rules, everyone gets paid"

    I reminded the rep today that a week ago they could see my emails. They then responded "as of monday all CSR was outsourced to the Phillipines."

    I asked for a phone number. They replied "they do not have a phone number"

    I replied " I find it hard to beleive they have no phone or other way to contact them" They replied "I dont know what to tell you sir"

    I find it very convenient that I just happened to contact them the day after they moved the CSR to Phillipines. I also find it very convenient that they have not responded to my emails in hours when normally minutes.

    I will give anyone the benefit of the doubt, but as you and I know the liklihood of me receiving my funds in very low.

    Other info....initial deposit was $2.5dimes with a 100% bonus of 2.5 dimes via bitcoin. Rollover was 15x or 75dimes

    Due to their rollover rules that I knew were strange, I made sure to follow the rules. I put in a total of 154dimes in wagers of which 118dimes were "qualified" per their rules. This is MUCH higher than my rollover requirement, but I didnt want it to be close.

    My account balance is 10dimes and I have requested 5dimes in bitcoin

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    Bottom line: Avoid at all costs unless something miraculous happens and they begin to pay.

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