1. 01-20-17 05:35 PM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTOGoat View Post
    I was the original poster, i was asking about his issue.
    Get some more posts under your belt pal those are rookie numbers, we're going to need to see you at 10,000 posts by the end of the year.

    ....and stop signing up at shit books.
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  2. 01-21-17 11:37 AM #37
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    Short of someone shilling or recommending a sportsbook, what does the amount of posts have to do with anything. You are correct about shit books, not signing up for any new ones for sure.
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  3. 01-21-17 12:04 PM #38
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    I think these are same crew that ran other scam books 18thhole, snakeeyes and a few others. Stay far away.
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  4. 01-21-17 01:37 PM #39
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    Outside of that issue with using the same IP have they ever non paid? I see there are problems with them resisting and eventually paying but curious if they have ever completely stiffed anybody? Asking for a friend...
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  5. 01-22-17 09:02 AM #40
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    So wheres the statement from the sportsbook ?
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  6. 01-23-17 11:10 AM #41
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    Removed - working it out with the sportsbook
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  7. 01-23-17 01:10 PM #42
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    @pokerdevil. Did you take a bonus or not?
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  8. 01-23-17 03:04 PM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayemaitch View Post
    Outside of that issue with using the same IP have they ever non paid? I see there are problems with them resisting and eventually paying but curious if they have ever completely stiffed anybody? Asking for a friend...
    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...718-fraud.html
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  9. 01-23-17 03:50 PM #44
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    I deposited with them using a bank deposit and still have their bank info...what should I do with it? I'm thinking I may not see a penny, glad I held on to their info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayemaitch View Post
    I deposited with them using a bank deposit and still have their bank info...what should I do with it? I'm thinking I may not see a penny, glad I held on to their info.
    What are you thinking you might be able to do with it? Everyone they ripped off at the18thholesportsbook and snakeeyes had their bank account info too.

    Chances of you being paid by this place are now slim to none I think.
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  11. 01-23-17 04:12 PM #46
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    Yeah not sure exactly, I will see how this all plays out first before doing anything.
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  12. 01-23-17 04:15 PM #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayemaitch View Post
    @pokerdevil. Did you take a bonus or not?
    I did not take a bonus. I hadn't played here since November and had $0 on the site. I made a deposit a few days ago and made sure to ask the live chat if there was any rollover if I didnt take a bonus. They said no.

    I won a few prop bets on NFL and requested a cashout. My account was locked. They said I now need to do a 3x rollover, and only certain types of bets counts (I think mostly point spreads on major sports).

    That's annoying, but I'll tolerate it so long as they pay out. I have screenshots and chat logs of everything in case there's an issue. I'll report back in a few days I guess.
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    I'd like to add they I've had very smooth dealings with this book in the past. Near-instant BTC payouts.

    I like all the wacky props they offer. I'm hopeful this will work out smoothly!
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  14. 01-23-17 04:28 PM #49
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    I hope you are right. I have done all right there and was looking for my first payout to go smoothly but id doesn't sound very promising. I'd be happy with just getting my money back at this point....I figured this would be about the time the shop would go belly up.
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  15. 01-23-17 04:37 PM #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayemaitch View Post
    I hope you are right. I have done all right there and was looking for my first payout to go smoothly but id doesn't sound very promising. I'd be happy with just getting my money back at this point....I figured this would be about the time the shop would go belly up.
    Not basing this on anything, but I don't think they'll go under.

    I think they just have cranky customer support (a la Tony at 5Dimes). What's the dealio... they've possibly stiffed 1 guy? That may still get resolved.

    I know someone else brought a complaint about ML718 here a few months ago -- can someone link that? The book got cranky about it but the player did eventually get paid in full. That's not the kind of move a scam book would do.
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  16. 01-23-17 05:05 PM #51
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    Well i have something to say about it also i have created there account 2-3 months ago and started betting from start big soccer leagues. After i read some bad reports about them i went on chat asking about that stories they told me how that customers were bad and so. And i asked them if it is everything ok with my account, they said that i am fair punter and so. After that chat i started betting only NBA, NHL, NCAAB and some NFL matches to complete their rollover fast and you can read how it went http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...718-fraud.html ... I also thought i have done everything right. But it seems they will find something anyway even that they never point it out before. Anyway if i knew it was the bad line - why would i bet on match when their date was 2/12 instead of 3/12 . It doesnt make sense if it was reversed that i could understand but anyway voiding bets because of wrong line or wrong date is common and not reason of not paying whole balance.
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  17. 01-23-17 05:12 PM #52
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    I haven't been on this forum for very long but doesn't a rep from some books occasionally come on here and are able to work things out? Not sure if it was this place or somewhere else but it would be nice for ML718 rep to come here and make a statement. That guy that got paid out was almost a year ago if I remember correctly, a lot could happen over the course of a year for a book.
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  18. 01-23-17 10:17 PM #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayemaitch View Post
    I haven't been on this forum for very long but doesn't a rep from some books occasionally come on here and are able to work things out? Not sure if it was this place or somewhere else but it would be nice for ML718 rep to come here and make a statement. That guy that got paid out was almost a year ago if I remember correctly, a lot could happen over the course of a year for a book.
    What is the "rep" gonna say. Yes, we did it again. Please be on the lookout for our next scam book we run.
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  19. 01-24-17 05:48 AM #54
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    Has someone their banking data? Or did someone deposit via neteller? What do we know about them? Any names ?
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  20. 01-24-17 05:58 AM #55
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    never heard of the book
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  21. 01-24-17 02:21 PM #56
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    as they are not responding to my emails i created nice site http://www.ml718.org/ tomorrow it will be boosted on top of the google . If someone wants you can write me your story about this bookie i will post it on this site.

    Tomorrow i got meeting with neteller representative to speak about their neteller account to know on which name is it i will post update.
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  22. 01-26-17 01:53 PM #57
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    They seem to be in no-pay mode with me also. I have 7 emails and countless chats in I am told the owner is out of town and only he can approve payouts.
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  23. 01-26-17 02:17 PM #58
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    I had a similar ordeal with them a couple of months ago and won't go into details but I just tried to call my assigned rep with ML718 t ask questins about their current status and his phone ext. isn't valid any longer.
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  24. 01-26-17 02:46 PM #59
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    in December they allowed no payouts from December 21 until the second Friday in January. ( end of year accounting)
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  25. 01-26-17 03:50 PM #60
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    Without giving up a name, we might have the same 'agent', what are 2 numbers in the extension ? Yet they advertise free same day payouts...
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  26. 01-26-17 03:52 PM #61
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    End of year accounting? It's essentially a pph system. The biggest books offshore don't block 3 weeks out, it's a way to delay payment.
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  27. 01-26-17 04:23 PM #62
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    Mine is post up. They told me as a "VIP" I have to both write and deal with exclusively the owner who goes by the name Robbie
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  28. 01-26-17 05:39 PM #63
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    Did they say what established you as a VIP? I don't think Ive heard of a book that has end of the year reporting for 4 weeks. What would they have to report and to who?
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    My rep was Todd 1-877-360-3443 ext8992
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  30. 01-27-17 02:45 PM #65
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    This book is probably 2-4 people, trying to create as many obstacles to get through to get money. I'm sure robbie/andrew/todd/enter name here have the same voice. Oolorine doing some work though on ml718.org.
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  31. 01-28-17 01:34 PM #66
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    The guy Robbie wrote me and said to avoid confusion and insure fast payouts I should deal with him only. Over the past year he had great communication skills when I had a question on a bet or needed to deposit, for withdrawals he seems to have disappeared. The office (through Live Chat) says I only can deal with him and he is out of the office. I have 8 emails in, plus numerous chats at this point.
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    There is no office....Yeah its not looking good for withdrawals. A few interesting posts in the comments section at ml718.ORG....
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  33. 01-28-17 02:36 PM #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayemaitch View Post
    There is no office....Yeah its not looking good for withdrawals. A few interesting posts in the comments section at ml718.ORG....

    Any idea where they operate from? Is 718 a NY reference?
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  34. 01-28-17 02:40 PM #69
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    That was my first thought. I think Ive seen on other forums about their connections to other books with payouts coming from Pennsylvania so its definitely a possibility that is the area they might be operating from or connected to to help with deposits via bank accounts that they have.
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  35. 01-28-17 02:43 PM #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTOGoat View Post
    The guy Robbie wrote me and said to avoid confusion and insure fast payouts I should deal with him only. Over the past year he had great communication skills when I had a question on a bet or needed to deposit, for withdrawals he seems to have disappeared. The office (through Live Chat) says I only can deal with him and he is out of the office. I have 8 emails in, plus numerous chats at this point.
    "Robbie" hasn't been answering SBR emails either.

    Laying on the beach somewhere holidaying on player deposits at a guess.
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