[Dirtydealer1123]

After slowly building my account to about 17,000 I tried to withdraw 3000. After spending a week emailing them "information to verify acc" today was told ,"because you have two accounts in the same house, you and your wife's account will be closed and all money will be confiscated" Bovada, just stole over $30,000 of my wife's and my money. They claimed the two of us were a "betting syndicate" because we made similar wagers at simililar times on hockey. Well yes we did both bet when we seen a goalie wasn't in the net. Yes we both are winning. She said we only bet when we had the best of it. Ok? When is that illegal?
Also we never tried to hide the fact we both live and bet from the same house. I believe they tried to freeroll on us to loose. But since we won, knew they were never going to pay due to fine print used to keep away bonus chasers.
Either way I plan to post about them till everyone in the gambling community knows Bovada will not pay if you win.

[Grivas_Digeni]

Did you operate two accounts from the same home/IP?

Did both of you get bonuses?

Did both of you ever bet the maximum on any markets, followed by another bet on the same market from another account?

If you answered yes to question 1 and yes to either 2 or 3, you got what you were asking for. I doubt you'll get any sympathy here.

[Hareeba!]

Did you operate two accounts from the same home/IP?

Did both of you get bonuses?

Did both of you ever bet the maximum on any markets, followed by another bet on the same market from another account?

If you answered yes to question 1 and yes to either 2 or 3, you got what you were asking for. I doubt you'll get any sympathy here.

Pricesely!

The only reason you'd have more than one account would be to take advantage. Now it's come back to bite you.

[FilletMaster]

your money & accounts are toast

[Optional]

After slowly building my account to about 17,000 I tried to withdraw 3000. After spending a week emailing them "information to verify acc" today was told ,"because you have two accounts in the same house, you and your wife's account will be closed and all money will be confiscated" Bovada, just stole over $30,000 of my wife's and my money. They claimed the two of us were a "betting syndicate" because we made similar wagers at simililar times on hockey. Well yes we did both bet when we seen a goalie wasn't in the net. Yes we both are winning. She said we only bet when we had the best of it. Ok? When is that illegal?
Also we never tried to hide the fact we both live and bet from the same house. I believe they tried to freeroll on us to loose. But since we won, knew they were never going to pay due to fine print used to keep away bonus chasers.
Either way I plan to post about them till everyone in the gambling community knows Bovada will not pay if you win.

It does sound like you might be out of luck here but if you submit a complaint form with your account details SBR can have a look at it for you and see if there is any way you might be able to argue for clemency http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/

[Dirtydealer1123]

Pricesely!

The only reason you'd have more than one account would be to take advantage. Now it's come back to bite you.

We only had accounts to bet faster, and only received the bonus once. Never cared about the bonuses. Was only playing to bet hockey. In their agreement (which I was unaware of the one per household ) it says "right to seize any funds gained as a result of holding multiple accounts , not the starting bank as well as the other account, and the wagers won when only her or I bet or were obviously located in different areas of the country.

[Dirtydealer1123]

Also in all fairness, I admitted a roommate we have also has a Bovada account. And asked why he was never bothered. Kay from Brovada security said he mostly plays poker, and did not win at sports so he was not a concern. How is his acc valid, but my wife's and mine aren't. Thought the whole reason for my acc being locked was due to us not being allowed multiple accounts per "household "

[Hareeba!]

We only had accounts to bet faster, and only received the bonus once. Never cared about the bonuses. Was only playing to bet hockey. In their agreement (which I was unaware of the one per household ) it says "right to seize any funds gained as a result of holding multiple accounts , not the starting bank as well as the other account, and the wagers won when only her or I bet or were obviously located in different areas of the country.

How does having 2 accounts allow you to "bet faster"?

I do agree that they shouldn't have the right to confiscate all your funds. Only whatever you have managed to gain by taking advantage of them.

[Dirtydealer1123]

Did you operate two accounts from the same home/IP?

Did both of you get bonuses?

Did both of you ever bet the maximum on any markets, followed by another bet on the same market from another account?

If you answered yes to question 1 and yes to either 2 or 3, you got what you were asking for. I doubt you'll get any sympathy here.

Not sure what the maximum bet was, but combined we never bet more than 2000 total on any game,only averaged 600 bets. And if the maximum was lower, how or why did it allow me to bet it. I'm new to sports betting online just figured safer than a bookie (was I ever wrong). Yes we both did recive 250 bonus, but at most, take that back,not confiscate the entire account. How is that fair to a player in any way? If you loose we keep it, if you win, we keep it.

[Dirtydealer1123]

How does having 2 accounts allow you to "bet faster"?

I do agree that they shouldn't have the right to confiscate all your funds. Only whatever you have managed to gain by taking advantage of them.

We would only bet when the goalie was pulled, or we thought he'd be pulled (last 8 min or less of game) and Bovada would only take bets of 500 or less at a time. Just wanted to bet as much as Bovada and my bank would allow me to.

[Hareeba!]

We would only bet when the goalie was pulled, or we thought he'd be pulled (last 8 min or less of game) and Bovada would only take bets of 500 or less at a time. Just wanted to bet as much as Bovada and my bank would allow me to.

So effectively you were using the second account to circumvent their $500 limit and betting up to $1000.
That's not just "betting faster". It's betting MORE.

[Dirtydealer1123]

[QUOTE=Hareeba!;25141127]So effectively you were using the second account to circumvent their $500 limit and betting up to $1000.
That's not just "betting faster". It's betting MORE.[/QUOTE
No I was allowed to bet up to 2000 on each account if I wished (don't recal trying for more than 2000 ever)and time outs permitted. But could only bet 500 at time. If there was a maximum amount you can bet, why was I allowed to bet past it? And why would a total max bet be that small for such a large (by appearances) company. Frequently in Vegas if I bet they allow prop bets for up to 1500 or 3000 depending on where I'm at. But in all fairness, my acc being locked saved me a ton of $$ on the Alabama game.

[litrismaxxx]

Say bye bye money...

Its going to be difficult for you get the cash (more after recieve bonuses), because is against all sportsbooks T&C having more than 1 account, bet same game, same IP/House... I had similar problem with 10BET some years ago and I coudnt do anything to get the money. T&C is the bibble for bookies to steal (unfair) the money from bettors.

[Pinocchio]

It does sound like you might be out of luck here but if you submit a complaint form with your account details SBR can have a look at it for you and see if there is any way you might be able to argue for clemency http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/

Out of luck? Yeah, because it's perfectly fine to let him play KNOWING about both accounts and then after he tries to withdraw - TAKE EVERYTHING.

We would only bet when the goalie was pulled, or we thought he'd be pulled (last 8 min or less of game) and Bovada would only take bets of 500 or less at a time. Just wanted to bet as much as Bovada and my bank would allow me to.

Sue them in small claims court - with a lawyer. You might not get all your money, but if more people did this, it would make them think twice before they would knowingly allow anyone they don't intend to pay to keep playing until they lose everything or try to withdraw...

[Dirtydealer1123]

I've spoke to my lawyer, he's considering starting a justic department investigation. Either way, this won't be over until I feel satisfied. Or they have spent enough on legal fees, to cover my loss. But small claims would never work. They confiscated over $30,000 between mine, and my wife's accounts.

[Kindred]

I've spoke to my lawyer, he's considering starting a justic department investigation. Either way, this won't be over until I feel satisfied. Or they have spent enough on legal fees, to cover my loss. But small claims would never work. They confiscated over $30,000 between mine, and my wife's accounts.

FU and the justice department. You were the one stealing by claiming bonuses with two accounts..fraud. Greed and lack of morals got the better of you, learn your lesson and stop crying.

[NavsPicks]

I've spoke to my lawyer, he's considering starting a justic department investigation. Either way, this won't be over until I feel satisfied. Or they have spent enough on legal fees, to cover my loss. But small claims would never work. They confiscated over $30,000 between mine, and my wife's accounts.

Lol fk you. People like you ruin it for other players who unknowingly make small mistakes. Your lawyer can stick it up his ass, it clearly says in LARGE print which you agreed to that you can't have more then one account. No sane site will accept $500 on -1.5 spreads in NHL games with 7 mins left. Give me a break.

[Hareeba!]

Lol fk you. People like you ruin it for other players who unknowingly make small mistakes. Your lawyer can stick it up his ass, it clearly says in LARGE print which you agreed to that you can't have more then one account. No sane site will accept $500 on -1.5 spreads in NHL games with 7 mins left. Give me a break.

That may well be but he does have a legitimate issue regarding them only deciding to deny him winnings despite obviously having knowledge of duplicate accounts before that.

It's known as free-rolling and cannot be regarded as acceptable practice.

[litrismaxxx]

I am sure if you 2 accounts were loosing at Bovada, they will never close you account. Only if you WIN, they will close to you. Thats how Bovada (Bodog) is making millions a year.

[Dirtydealer1123]

The "3rd account in the household " has never been blocked because it is a loser. And "is no concern to us at the moment". But I'm in the wrong, because I must be bonus chasing. Never tried to take advantage of bonus, only wanted to bet the games. Get paid if I won, and not complain if/when I lost.
Why wouldn't I call my lawyer? It's people like me, who make things better for other bettors. And hold these companies accountable. Because a casino, claims what you do is not right, doesn't make it so!
Tommy Highland spent a ton of his own money and time to prove that, but made a few places legal for counters. If a player uses the casino odds, plays by their rules, but is smarter, and wins. He or she should get paid. I'm sorry I don't feel bad for a casino who almost always has the best of it. And tries to steal from you when they loose.

[SBR Forum]

Hi Dirtydealer1123,

Thanks for sharing with the board. The threats of legal action are not helpful to your complaint. If this were referred to the Kahnawake Gaming Commission, the KGC will go by the book. I understand an analyst is in touch with you via email to discuss further.

[BrickJames]

Bovada has square lines and low limits.

You knew what you were doing pal.

You got caught cut and dry.

[BrickJames]

........... if you wanted to bet more on hockey totals you should have just called up Bovada and asked them to raise your limit on hockey totals.

[Natty68]

Sucks to say it but it is right there in the TOS. They shouldn't have willingly free rolled them though. It's a no-win cuz Bovada is one of my outs that I can depend on to PAY out every time without worry. That why I would never let a balance at an off-shore get that high without taking five hundred or so out just to see how it goes.

[Buffalo Nickle]

I've spoke to my lawyer, he's considering starting a justic department investigation. Either way, this won't be over until I feel satisfied. Or they have spent enough on legal fees, to cover my loss. But small claims would never work. They confiscated over $30,000 between mine, and my wife's accounts.

A Justice Department investigation? Is your lawyer Loretta Lynch? You've got connections.

[SharpAngles]

I've spoke to my lawyer, he's considering starting a justic department investigation. Either way, this won't be over until I feel satisfied. Or they have spent enough on legal fees, to cover my loss. But small claims would never work. They confiscated over $30,000 between mine, and my wife's accounts.

Can't make this sh*t up!!! Tell the DoJokers Calvin says hi

[BrickJames]

Sucks to say it but it is right there in the TOS. They shouldn't have willingly free rolled them though. It's a no-win cuz Bovada is one of my outs that I can depend on to PAY out every time without worry. That why I would never let a balance at an off-shore get that high without taking five hundred or so out just to see how it goes.

They didn't freeroll them. Bovada can't monitor every account all the time, all they can do is review an account when someone requests a big payout. They reviewed the account saw that the player was cheating and confiscated the funds plain and simple.

[BrickJames]

It is the players responsibility to review Terms of Service and adhere to them.

[Natty68]

I suspect that if they were losing and depositing regularly nothing would ever be said or done.

[unusialsusp5]

just ask bovada to go back to their old website layout and you will not pursue this any longer. their new one is just so bad it has to be hurting their volume. and your lawyer is an idiot.

[BrickJames]

I suspect that if they were losing and depositing regularly nothing would ever be said or done.

My point exactly because no one would have ever reviewed the account.

[Dirtydealer1123]

They didn't freeroll them. Bovada can't monitor every account all the time, all they can do is review an account when someone requests a big payout. They reviewed the account saw that the player was cheating and confiscated the funds plain and simple.

I never cheated! I bet their odds from their website. Do you really have that much love for corporate rules? And letting others forgo their hard earned money to greedy corporations, who never intended on playing fair. Or somewhere along the way, has their rules been so pounded into your head, you actually, somehow believe, it's the right thing to do? They knew of multiple accounts from the start. (Was made to verify hers at set up) but chose not to say anything until we both were winners. Not when we were loosing. How is that fair and just? And if my bets were so much, why wouldn't I have been monitored after the first month or two? They didn't have time?

I would like to thank SBR for having this matter looked into. Regardless of results, thank you.

[Natty68]

My point exactly because no one would have ever reviewed the account.

Guy gets his balance up to 30k and it doesn't prompt someone to take a look???

[Hareeba!]

They didn't freeroll them. Bovada can't monitor every account all the time, all they can do is review an account when someone requests a big payout. They reviewed the account saw that the player was cheating and confiscated the funds plain and simple.

This is the 21st century!
Duplicate names or addresses can be identified instantly.
Or are they still using an abacus?

[Optional]

I never cheated! I bet their odds from their website. Do you really have that much love for corporate rules? And letting others forgo their hard earned money to greedy corporations, who never intended on playing fair. Or somewhere along the way, has their rules been so pounded into your head, you actually, somehow believe, it's the right thing to do? They knew of multiple accounts from the start. (Was made to verify hers at set up) but chose not to say anything until we both were winners. Not when we were loosing. How is that fair and just? And if my bets were so much, why wouldn't I have been monitored after the first month or two? They didn't have time?

I would like to thank SBR for having this matter looked into. Regardless of results, thank you.

Don't get bothered by people ripping in to you. None of us know if you are really two genuine players or the one person using a partners ID... but the second scenario is very common and 'most' people that start threads complaining about being caught are doing it as a last resort and that's why the negativity.

If you were both betting the same live markets at the same odds for the $500 a pop max it looks like you are trying to get around limits whether you are or not.

What happens to the odds on those late game totals after you hit it for $500? Do they sometimes change straight away so you can't hit the same odds twice? If so, that's what the book will see as cheating the system by betting them with 2 accounts.