[Irefutabilul]

I'm writing this on behalf of a good friend of mine, who just got scammed by the so-called "betting brokerage" group located at Bet-IBC.com. They are also linked with BonusBonusBonus.com, run by an Austrian guy called Martin (supposedly from Wien), and who was claiming a few years ago to be the "biggest agent in Europe". Other persons associated with this scam group is someone known as Robert Gren (from Krakow, Poland) and a Romanian guy from Constanta, I'm about to find out his real name soon because he even used to manage some kind of business in Chisinau, Moldova.

I'm not going to make it long. What happened is that my friend made a deposit of 1,800 EUR to bet at Maxbet.com. Everything went OK initially, until today when he found out that his account with EUR 4110 in cash, was locked. Obviously he asked his agent what was the reason. He was told that another customer has logged in from the same IP. That was true, because he had a cousin also involved in betting and he used to live at his house for some time while his flat was undergoing renovation. This was the answer:

"The fact is you are using the same IP-Address, for the chat, for the bets on the old and on the new account. Therefore the account stays closed and the Money is frozen".

Tell me please, how stupid is this? OK, it may have been true that using the same IP for two accounts is not allowed (even though I am not sure they ever warned him about), but one thing is to ask for documents in order to protect customer's funds, and totally different is to just lock his account and never reply back, as if it was anywhere written that money belong to them in such cases. Why not establish whose account is and give the money back?

I remember to have been contacted by these scammers in the past, being asked to become an agent. I did refuse them at the time because I could not trust them. Now I see I took a good decision. But this isn't the case with my friend. At least for the moment, because 4,000 is not a small amount. Even if it was a small amount, this is unacceptable and puts one more shadow on this black sports betting brokerage industry.

My friend will not give up. We will get in touch with Austrian authorities and unless they're dumb stupid totally, they will pay him back if they don't want to go to jail for EUR 4,000.

PS: BonusBonusBonus.com was for sale for a while, it is possible that this was a set up and they only waited for the right moment to leave the scene.

Anyone who can contribute is welcomed.

[king7811]

News?

[Scooter]

Were there bonuses involved?

[luctens]

Were there bonuses involved?

I don't think these brokers do many bonuses in general so it probably wasn't anything to do with that but the story sounds pretty strange. The guy was supposedly posting on behalf of a friend and the friend also had their cousin that was betting from their address as well and they never came back onto here with any further news after the initial post so sounds like some possible multi-accounting that was going on.

I also can't remember hearing anything bad about Bet-IBC.com in terms of them being any sort of a scam or anything except from this story either before or after this thread, although Bet-IBC do charge extremely extortionate deposit and withdrawal fees and other extremely extortionate fees depending on what sort of account you want from them, but they at least tell you up front what these fees are going to be so they at least aren't hoodwinking you on that front.

It all just sounds a bit too fishy from the OP's side for my liking.

[king7811]

In the website I didn't see anything about bonus, only the promotion with strongvpn.

[Scooter]

I had a postive experience with them. After IBCBet (the sportsbook) had its troubles with the law, BetIBC (the agent) stopped dealing with USA citizens. They were honorable and I got my funds returned. king7811 - "...Bet-IBC do charge extremely extortionate deposit and withdrawal fees and other extremely extortionate fees depending on what sort of account you want from them..." When I was using them there were no fees for the method I used for deposit, and I think there was one free withdrawal every so often also. Nothing I read at that time on their website made me feel they were out of line with their deposit/withdrawal fees.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

When I was using them there were no fees for the method I used for deposit, and I think there was one free withdrawal every so often also. Nothing I read at that time on their website made me feel they were out of line with their deposit/withdrawal fees.

They're 1.5% deposit, 1% withdrawal for skrill (more for betfair accounts). Bank transfers are 50 euros for both.

I suppose it basically just covers their costs, but the withdrawal fees ends up making them uncompetitive vs other agents.

[king7811]

I would like to open a betfair account with them and also a pinnacle account. So today I contacted them and they proposed me the vip platform. There are multiple bookmakers but it's sportsbook, exchange is not possible. They said that betfair offers are shown as fixed odds in this vip-ibc. I'm thinking to accept because for me this option is good anyway instead of having 2 separate accounts.

[thespeculator]

I have been using bet-ibc for 2 months , great service with betfair and matchbook. Like Heehaw said there are fees for deposit and payout. The upside is there are no documents to send in , if you find that a hassle.

[bozeman]

so what is the point of using those brokers instead of just opening an account yourself and betting from it? pinnacle doesnt restrict winners, neither does betfair or matchbook

[Optional]

so what is the point of using those brokers instead of just opening an account yourself and betting from it? pinnacle doesnt restrict winners, neither does betfair or matchbook

Being able to move funds between books without withdraw/deposit costs and waiting time mostly.

[Alfa1234]

You can also get an account at some sites through a broker even if the bookie doesn't accept clients from your country.

[arie1985]

I'm writing this on behalf of a good friend of mine, who just got scammed by the so-called "betting brokerage" group located at Bet-IBC.com...

What happened is that my friend made a deposit of 1,800 EUR to bet at Maxbet.com. Everything went OK initially, until today when he found out that his account with EUR 4110 in cash, was locked. He was told that another customer has logged in from the same IP. That was true, because he had a cousin also involved in betting...

Let me get it straight - a friend of a friend had a cousin who was involved?

Tell me please, how stupid is this?

I'm sincerely wondering the same....

My friend will not give up. We will get in touch with Austrian authorities and unless they're dumb stupid totally, they will pay him back if they don't want to go to jail for EUR 4,000.

How are you becoming part of "we"? How are you related?

Anyone who can contribute is welcomed.

You are very welcome-d.

[Alfa1234]

Arie1985, you just replied to a post from 2015...

[arie1985]

Arie1985, you just replied to a post from 2015...

Which you bumped today

[Alfa1234]

It was bumped yesterday by Bozeman and I replied to him, get your facts straight.

[arie1985]

It was bumped yesterday by Bozeman and I replied to him, get your facts straight.

Sorry

[Optional]

so what is the point of using those brokers instead of just opening an account yourself and betting from it? pinnacle doesnt restrict winners, neither does betfair or matchbook

Try not to bump old threads like this unless it's directly relevant to the OP please Bozeman.

It gets confusing for people who don't notice the date.